Obama actions to allow Federal funds for Embryonic stem cell research is a good thing for many reasons...

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cause in time, if someone needs a new arm, leg or pee pee, they can get one. I you have am immune deficiency stem research can help too. So, I think Obama's position on this here issue is a gooder one than Bush's one cause it will help the people who are sick get back on their feet quicker.

This is my opinion on this here issue.

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stem cell research is well funded and brings many discoveries

embryonic stem cell research is none of the above with no known cures even on the horizon. they're hoping they may find something in 15 years.

suffice to say, there is a reason nobody is investing in embryonic stem cell research, there ain't anything there

but hey, now we can have government pay people to have abortions in the name of funding and pursuing a worthless science.

Sorry CW, we are on different paths here dude. But you're still cool
 

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stem cell research is well funded and brings many discoveries

embryonic stem cell research is none of the above with no known cures even on the horizon. they're hoping they may find something in 15 years.

suffice to say, there is a reason nobody is investing in embryonic stem cell research, there ain't anything there

but hey, now we can have government pay people to have abortions in the name of funding and pursuing a worthless science.

Sorry CW, we are on different paths here dude. But you're still cool


Thanks for pointing those things out. I obviously needs to do more reading on this here issue.

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great move. here is more info on embryonic stem cells.

Embryonic Stem Cells
Embryonic stem cells, as their name implies, are taken from embryos. These cells are "pluripotent," or capable of differentiating into any cell type derived from the three embryonic germ layers (the three initial tissue layers arising in an embryo) -- mesoderm, endoderm, and ectoderm. Under the right conditions, human embryonic stem cells will proliferate indefinitely without specializing or differentiating into specific cell types, to form an embryonic stem cell line. Embryonic stem cells were first isolated in mice more than 20 years ago, but it was not until 1998 that James Thomson of the University of Wisconsin managed to derive and grow the first stable line of human cells.

The embryos from which these stem cells are derived form under two different conditions. Until very recently, these cells were always taken from surplus eggs left over from in vitro fertilization procedures and contributed with the informed consent of the donors. In vitro fertilization is a technique used to assist women who are experiencing difficulty in conceiving a child. A woman's eggs are removed from her ovary and then fertilized in a laboratory culture dish. The fertilized eggs are maintained in a laboratory dish and allowed to develop into pre-implantation embryos, or pre-embryos. A little over two days later, they are delivered to a healthy uterus to continue development.

Many times, surplus embryos remain after the in vitro procedure. These can be donated to other couples or discarded, but they can also be frozen and stored for future IVF attempts or donated for research. The best estimate, by the RAND Institute in May 2003, is that nearly 400,000 embryos are frozen and stored in the U.S. alone, with about 11,000 such embryos designated for research.

In February 2004, scientists in South Korea became the first to derive human stem cells from embryos using a second method called somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT) -- a procedure often referred to as therapeutic cloning. [See the Stem Cell Challenge for a detailed description of both the SCNT and IVF methods of obtaining stem cells.]

Whether the embryonic stem cells are isolated from surplus IVF embryos or through SCNT, the embryo is destroyed in the process. This fact is the root of the controversy over using these cells in research.
 

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Better to make use of unwanted embryos than to throw the little one and two ounce scudders into a dumpster
 

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Why do we need Federal Funds?

Regardless of where you stand on the moral issue, why should tax payers being paying for this? Do we also pay for cancer and AIDS research? If so, my bad. I thought that private companies were involved in this level of research.
 

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I agree, why not let private companies fund their own research. Why take more money from me to so some company can make multi-millions or perhaps billions of $$$ in profit? BS
 

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Tax question for you Willie - can I buy some frozen embryos and claim them as dependents since they are considered to be human life?
 

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I am relieved to see Bush's war on science coming to an end.
 

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i'm all for stem cell research but cannot stand the idea of govt funds. govt funds = govt control & oversight = red tape = stymying actual advancement

let startups and private companies borrow money with minimal interest and they'll do a helluva lot more with stem cell research than anything involving the feds
 

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Why do we need Federal Funds?

Regardless of where you stand on the moral issue, why should tax payers being paying for this? Do we also pay for cancer and AIDS research? If so, my bad. I thought that private companies were involved in this level of research.

Yes, federal tax dollars contribute to a wide range of medical research

I for one am Super Happy that a few bucks of my federal tax dollars go to furthering research which will improve life and health for the community at large. And 2x that if it should happen to be my own personal life & health in coming years.
 

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I agree, why not let private companies fund their own research. Why take more money from me to so some company can make multi-millions or perhaps billions of $$$ in profit? BS

If you honestly believe one or more private companies is going to make multi-millions or perhaps billions in profit due to this specific research, I suggest you buy a few shares of their stock right now and then rake solid on the back side.
 

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Your probably correct, with govt control of healthcare and all

As for overall health care access, give me the same government-controlled care that's enjoyed for life by Congressmen, Presidents and their families
 

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As for overall health care access, give me the same government-controlled care that's enjoyed for life by Congressmen, Presidents and their families


Its not government controlled. ITS GOVT PAID FOR!!!! Huge difference, they can go to any doctor they want to, you know the same thing we have now. Government controlled is Prez BO telling you where to go, if you can get treated etc. Typical left wing crap I shouldn't be surprised
 

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Well as soon as the laws get passed where President Obama tells me where I can go for health care services, immediately start a Topic here so I'll know about it
 

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Its already started with the ridiculous stimulus bill. Their is a section in there where there will be a person (forget actual title) that "guides your doctors decisions you on your healthcare". Next is the "down payment" in his budget. While Prez BO isnt telling you where to go right now, we are headed full steam ahead for that conclusion.
 

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Tax question for you Willie - can I buy some frozen embryos and claim them as dependents since they are considered to be human life?

C'mon Willie - the tax deadline is approaching. I need to place my order on ebay soon.:howdy:
 

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You've got a great pt mr21, now Prez BO and company can give tax breaks to all the welfare people (who don't pay taxes) for the unborn children.
 

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