NYT editorial on drug war: Time to legalize (or at least decriminalize)

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In a major coup for pro-legalization group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, Nicholas Kristof, columnist for The New York Times, hitched himself to the group's mantra in a Sunday editorial exploring the downfalls of a government fighting a war against its own people.

From The New York Times:
Here in the United States, four decades of drug war have had three consequences:
First, we have vastly increased the proportion of our population in prisons. The United States now incarcerates people at a rate nearly five times the world average. In part, that’s because the number of people in prison for drug offenses rose roughly from 41,000 in 1980 to 500,000 today. Until the war on drugs, our incarceration rate was roughly the same as that of other countries.
Second, we have empowered criminals at home and terrorists abroad. One reason many prominent economists have favored easing drug laws is that interdiction raises prices, which increases profit margins for everyone, from the Latin drug cartels to the Taliban. Former presidents of Mexico, Brazil and Colombia this year jointly implored the United States to adopt a new approach to narcotics, based on the public health campaign against tobacco.
Third, we have squandered resources. Jeffrey Miron, a Harvard economist, found that federal, state and local governments spend $44.1 billion annually enforcing drug prohibitions. We spend seven times as much on drug interdiction, policing and imprisonment as on treatment. (Of people with drug problems in state prisons, only 14 percent get treatment.)
Kristof prominently quotes Norm Stamper, a former police chief and member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. He also pulls some ideas from Jeffrey Miron, a Harvard economist who has become a leading anti-prohibition advocate for his analysis of the economic impact of black markets.
If you could change America's drug policy, what would you do? Let's hear your ideas for reducing the harmful impacts of not just addiction, but prohibition itself.
-- Stephen C. Webster
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June 13, 2009, 10:04 pm
Time to Legalize Drugs?
By Nicholas Kristof

My Sunday column looks at the 40-year “war on drugs” and argue that it has failed and that it is time for a dramatic rethink of drug policy. I haven’t written about drugs before because I’ve been ambivalent — in particular, I’ve worried that liberalization would lead to an increase in drug use. I’m not one of those who thinks that drugs are fine — on the contrary, I’ve seen how narcotics can devastate families, even countries. My home town of Yamhill, Oregon, has been hit hard by the Meth explosion.

Yet over the last year I’ve swung toward liberalization, for three reasons. First, the evidence suggests that any increase in use from liberalization would be minor, if there was one at all. Second, Mexico and Afghanistan have shown how American drug policy empowers foreign cartels/terrorists and destabilizes foreign countries. Third, the tens of billions of dollars spent on the drug war seem a vast misallocation of resources at a time we’re struggling to pay for education and health care.

I don’t know precisely what policy I’m in favor of. Decriminalization to start with, as some European countries have done. But maybe we should look at a legalization model as well, with state liquor stores or pharmacists selling narcotics and raising money through taxes. With cigarettes we’ve seen that an aggressive combination of taxation and public health campaigning can reduce addictive behavior, so maybe those are the better tools to apply to narcotics. I hope to continue looking at these issues and thinking about them. Your thoughts most welcome.
 

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Good catch.

Friendly note that the cited item is not a NYT Editorial (authored by the NYT Editorial Board), but is a NYT Columnist

If you like, I can edit the Topic title to reflect that.

In either case it's a very significant commentary in one of the most widely read newspapers in the USA.
 

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Go easy

Fresh threads on distinct news or opinion items is fine.


Until one gets like Doc and creates 40 per day and the second through fourth post are from him and all say the same thing in all 40 threads
 

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More news coverage from the June 15 Buffalo News which was then picked up by several other papers in NY state, including Syracuse

(bolded emphasis below added by Barman)

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US NY: Momentum Builds For Broad Debate On Legalizing Pot

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Pubdate: Mon, 15 Jun 2009
Source: Buffalo News (NY)
Copyright: 2009 The Buffalo News
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Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/61
Author: David Crary
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/pot.htm (Cannabis)
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/decrim.htm (Decrim/Legalization)

MOMENTUM BUILDS FOR BROAD DEBATE ON LEGALIZING POT

The savage drug war in Mexico. Crumbling state budgets. Weariness with current drug policy. The election of a president who said, "Yes - I inhaled."

These developments and others are kindling unprecedented optimism among the many Americans who want to see marijuana legalized.

Doing so, they contend to an ever-more-receptive audience, could weaken the Mexican cartels now profiting from U.S. pot sales, save billions in law enforcement costs, and generate billions more in tax revenue from one of the nation's biggest cash crops.

Said a veteran of the movement, Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance: "This is the first time I feel like the wind is at my back and not in my face."

Foes of legalization argue that already-rampant pot use by adolescents would worsen if adults could smoke at will.

Even the most hopeful marijuana activists doubt nationwide decriminalization is imminent, but they see the debate evolving dramatically and anticipate fast-paced change on the state level.

"For the most part, what we've seen over the past 20 years has been incremental," said Norm Stamper, a former Seattle police chief now active with Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. "What we've seen in the past six months is an explosion of activity, fresh thinking, bold statements and penetrating questions."

Some examples:

- -Numerous prominent political leaders, including California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and former Mexican presidents, have suggested it is time for open debate on legalization.

- -Lawmakers in at least three states are considering joining the 13 states that have legalized pot for medical purposes. Massachusetts voters last fall decided to decriminalize possession of an ounce or less of pot; there are now a dozen states that have taken such steps.

- -In Congress, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, and Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., are among several lawmakers contending that marijuana decriminalization should be studied in re-examining what they deem to be failed U.S. drug policy. "Nothing should be off the table," Webb said.

- -National polls show close to half of American adults are now open to legalizing pot - a constituency encompassing today's college students and the 60-something baby boomers who popularized the drug in their own youth. In California last month, a statewide Field Poll for the first time found 56 percent of voters supporting legalization.

That poll pleased California Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, a San Francisco Democrat who introduced a bill in February to legalize marijuana in a manner similar to alcohol - taxing sales to adults while barring possession by anyone under 21. Ammiano hopes for a vote by early next year and contends the bill would generate up to $1.3 billion in revenue for his deficit-plagued state.

Ammiano, 67, said he has been heartened by cross-generational and bipartisan support.

"People who initially were very skeptical - as the polls come in, as the budget situation gets worse - are having a second look," he said. "Maybe these issues that have been treated as wedge issues aren't anymore. People know the drug war has failed."

A new tone on drug reform also has sounded more frequently in Congress.

At a House hearing last month, Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., challenged FBI Director Robert Mueller when Mueller spoke of parents losing their lives to drugs.

"Name me a couple of parents who have lost their lives to marijuana," Cohen said.

"Can't," Mueller replied.

"Exactly. You can't, because that hasn't happened," Cohen said. "Is there some time we're going to see that we ought to prioritize meth, crack, cocaine and heroin, and deal with the drugs that the American culture is really being affected by?"

In a telephone interview, Kucinich noted that both Obama and former President Bill Clinton acknowledged trying marijuana.

"Apparently that didn't stop them from achieving their goals in life," Kucinich said. "We need to come at this from a point of science and research and not from mythologies or fears."

Gil Kerlikowske, chief of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, has not endorsed the idea of an all-options review of drug policy, but he has suggested scrapping the "war on drugs" label and placing more emphasis on treatment and prevention. Attorney General Eric Holder has said federal authorities will no longer raid medical marijuana facilities in California.

Nonetheless, many opponents of pot legalization remain firm in their convictions.

"We're opposed to legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. We think it's the wrong message to send our youth," said Russell Laine, police chief in Algonquin, Ill., and president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

Marijuana - though considered one of the least harmful illegal drugs - consumes a vast amount of time and money on the part of law enforcement, accounting for more than 40 percent of drug arrests nationally even though relatively few pot-only offenders go to prison.

According to estimates by Harvard University economist Jeffrey Miron, legalization of marijuana could save the country at least $7.7 billion in law enforcement costs and generate more than $6 billion in revenue if it were taxed like cigarettes and alcohol.

Pot usage is pervasive. The latest federal survey indicates that more than 100 million Americans have tried it at some point and more than 14 million used it in the previous month.

Testifying recently before Congress, Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard said U.S. demand for pot is a key factor in the Mexican drug war.

"The violence that we see in Mexico is fueled 65 percent to 70 percent by the trade in one drug: marijuana," he said. "I've called for at least a rational discussion as to what our country can do to take the profit out of that."

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency remains on record against legalization and medical marijuana, which it contends has no scientific justification.

"Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety," says a DEA document. "It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers."

The DEA also says marijuana is now at its most potent, in part because of refinements in cultivation.

Even in liberal Vermont, with the nation's highest rates of marijuana usage, many substance-abuse specialists are wary of legalization.

Annie Ramniceanu, clinical director at Spectrum Youth and Family Services in Burlington, Vt., said her agency deals with scores of youths each year whose social development has been hurt by early and frequent pot smoking.

"They don't deal with anything," she said. "They never learned how to have fun without smoking pot, never learned how to deal with conflict."

Legalization proponents acknowledge that pot use by adolescents is a major problem, but contend that decriminalizing and regulating the drug would improve matters by shifting efforts away from criminal gangs.

"The notion that we have to keep something completely banned for adults to keep it away from kids doesn't hold up," said Bruce Mirken, communications director of the Marijuana Policy Project.

As for Obama, the activists don't expect him to embrace the cause at this point.

"Obama's got two wars, an economic disaster. We have to realize they're not going to put this on the front burner right now," said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of NORML, or the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. "But every measurable metric out there is swinging our way."
 

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As for Obama, the activists don't expect him to embrace the cause at this point.

Bar: That's actually not even needed so much as is having President Obama just pretty much stay out of the way.

He can't promote legalization at the federal level without violating a variety of UN-based resolution agreements pertaining to "drug control". Though archaic in the year 2009 after mostly being passed in the 1970s, those are impediments that make it better for him to just stand aside and let states do whatever their individual residents demand, via state legislatures and/or citizen ballot initiatives.
 

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I could swear I posted in this thread. I must be suffering short-term memory loss from

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Yes...I could not permit you and Nimue to soil this burgeoning Ongoing MaryWanna news & opinion thread with your childish bickering.

Instead, you must conform to my standard of childish behavior, which by now should be easy enough to follow

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ps...Was thinking of Renaming this thread, "The Nimue/Barman All You Can Eat Marijuana Thread" and merge future mj-related topics in to this one so we can make a run at Sell, Sell, Sell by Christmas
 

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I have a better name: "The Nimue/Barman All You Can Eat AFTER SMOKING Marijuana Thread"
 

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Great news from Rhode Island

US RI: RI Assembly Overrides Veto On Marijuana Compassion Centers

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Newshawk: http://www.drugsense.org/donate.htm
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Pubdate: Wed, 17 Jun 2009
Source: Providence Journal, The (RI)
Copyright: 2009 The Providence Journal Company
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Authors: Donita Naylor and Cynthia Needham, Journal Staff Writers
Referenced: Edward O. Hawkins and Thomas C. Slater Medical Marijuana Act http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText09/HouseText09/H5359A.pdf and http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText09/SenateText09/S0185aa.pdf
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/mmj.htm (Marijuana - Medicinal) RI ASSEMBLY OVERRIDES VETO ON MARIJUANA COMPASSION CENTERS

Rhode Island became the third state in the country Tuesday to allow the sale of marijuana for medical purposes.

The House and Senate easily overrode Governor Carcieri's veto of bills that would permit up to three dispensaries that advocates have dubbed "compassion centers."

In 2006, the General Assembly permanently legalized the use of medical marijuana. Doctors could prescribe it for critically ill patients. But there was no legal way to buy the drug, leaving patients or their caregivers to grow it, or buy it on the street.

For the more than 600 Rhode Islanders who rely on medical marijuana to help relieve the unimaginable suffering that some diseases cause, or to relieve their nausea enough to take food, this will provide not only relief and safety, but also dignity," said Rep. Thomas C. Slater, who sponsored the bill in the House and is himself battling advanced cancer.

Sick people should not be forced to associate with drug dealers and the dark underbelly of society to get the help they need. I'm glad we're finally recognizing their right to access marijuana safely, legally and without needless shame or fear," said Slater, a Providence Democrat.

In late May, the House approved Slater's bill by a 63-to-5 vote. An identical bill sponsored by Sen. Rhoda E. Perry passed the Senate on June 9 by a vote of 31 to 2. Although both votes indicated a veto-proof majority, Governor Carcieri vetoed them on June 12, saying "the increased availability, along with a complacent attitude, will no doubt result in increased usage, and will negatively impact the children of Rhode Island." He also said the dispensaries would complicate the jobs of law enforcement officers and create a perception that Rhode Island is complacent against illegal drugs.

We still have our same concerns," Carcieri spokeswoman Amy Kempe said after Tuesday's overrides. "The administration believes there are a lot of issues that should be looked at legislatively before we proceed."

She cited concerns for the safety of patients who will use compassion centers. "They're easy targets, walking out with medicinal marijuana - -- two blocks later they're being mugged."

California has compassion centers where patients with a prescription can buy marijuana legally, but those dispensaries were not created by legislation and are not regulated. Earlier this year, New Mexico became the only state to license nonprofit producers of medical marijuana.

At least one national marijuana advocacy group hailed Rhode Island's veto override as historic. "Now that the Obama administration has announced a policy change," said Aaron Houston, director of government relations for the Marijuana Policy Project, "state legislators seem to feel safer adopting a sensible, regulated system of medical marijuana distribution that avoids the mistakes of California, where dispensaries sprang up with no rules. This is a historic step forward."

States now considering creation of state-licensed dispensaries include Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, and a ballot initiative is being circulated in Arizona, according to the Marijuana Policy Project. This November, Maine voters will consider a ballot initiative to add dispensaries to the state's medical marijuana law.

After Tuesday's vote -- the first override of the year -- Slater assured his colleagues the forthcoming centers will be monitored. "I know many of you had hesitation over this bill, but I can assure you we will have consistent oversight so nothing goes wrong."
 

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