NORTHCOAST SATURDAY ANOTHER DEBAUCLE

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pathetic 3-7 "WE ARE FOOTBALL ONLY SO WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON IT ONLY" THESE GUYS ARE CLOWNS.


MICHIGAN LOSER
NEBRASKA WINNER
AKRON LOSER
KENT ST LOSER
TEXAS LOSER
ASU LOSER
MARYLAND WINNER
UTAH STATE

NC OVER LOSER
FLORIDA OVER LOSER
MICH STATE UNDER WINNER

i guess millenium sports is having a good day, he, phil, hypes their BOOK.
 

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it seems to me when Northcoast Sports and Phil Steele started promoting Millenium Sports in their newsletters they seem to have fallen off the wagon.Just wondering why you would try to promote a sportsbook when the whole idea is to beat them. "All we do is concentrate on football,nothing else"
 

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i'd like to hear say on his tape we are 9-38 (estimate) in our official college saturday picks.
 

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Actually, they are 15-19 overall (44%) and a Miserable 8-12 (40%) on 4* & 5* plays. You won't hear that on the tape, he'll add in the past 10 or 15 years in an attempt to put some lipstick on this pig.

Funny thing, I went against him (Faded him) on 3 plays (not on purpose, just worked out like that) and went 2-1. Check my "Geek's Plays" thread.

He is doing Great in the NFL, but for the "#1 service for College Football", he's been in the tank for the 2nd year in a row. "The strongest College play anywhere" his top 'weakly' college play has been 1-5 so far this season including the September 5*. His only top college play winner was week one with Wisc. The strongest rated college play anywhere, and his college picks overall, have flat out sucked.

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Well I`m fu*ked I took Utah St +14!
 

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Would one of you guys tell me why Florida wasn't on his card today? He had Nebraska, Zst., and Texas but he left Fla out. My whole day was ruined because he didn't back the Gators and I didn't know what to do. I've been walking around all day with a deer in the headlights look on my face. Maybe he's saving Florida for a 5* GOY. Oh and by the way next weeks late phones will be Tex,Fla,FSU, Zst, Texas and Nebraska.



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looking a 3-8 day right in the face.


general question. CAN you trust any tout who advertises sportsbooks with his literature??
 

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utah state down 24-7


by the way his comp college play of the day was washingtom losing 25-16. THESE guys couldnt try to do worse.
 

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NORTHCOAST MAKES 20% AFFILIATE EARNINGS ON LOSSES FOR VERY PLAYER THEY SEND TO MILLENIUM. DONT OVER THINK IT. 20% OF MILLIONS IS A LOT OF $. IT'S A WIN,WIN SITUATION FOR PHIL.

THIS IS HOW EVEN A LOSING CAPPER CAN MAKE MONEY!

BEWARE OF ANY CAPPER WHO'S WEBSITE IS LITTERED
WITH SPORTSBOOK ADS!! THE BOOKS CAN'T GET ENOUGH
OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.
 

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his tape good morning a quick recap... we went 1-2 on our late phone plays and the private play line went 1-1 thats all. BE A MAN PHIL YOU SUCKED IT UP BIG TIME.
 

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LOL, it was "Customer Appreciation Weekend".
 

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onhis comp line he states that he went
8 & 10 starwise on sides winning 2of 3
on the 4 star plays
bad info on the 4 stars coming from
phil or on this site?
 

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I only pay attention to his top 3 LP Sat. plays.
1st week. didn't hear what they were..
2nd week. 0-3
3rd week. 2-1
4th week. 1-2
5th week. 2-2
6th week. 2-1. Mich. Neb. Mary.
Add to this the winning Tues-Thurs-Fri night plays and your actualy ahead for the year.
Nfl: Sun plays excluding first 2 Sun nights (didn't see them). 13-5. Add to that a kick ass pre-season and Mon night magic winners.= Way up for the year betting Northcoast football plays.
 

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The Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday
night plays are only 2* opinions.
Why would you count those and not
his official 3* late phone plays
in college? Also his official total
releases are something like 4-10.
If his small college plays win you
hear about them but this week 0-3
so no mention. Overall between totals
and sides not including small college
releases he is right around where he
was last year in the low 40% range.He
seems to have become a better pro capper
which is strange for a guy who prides
himself on being the college expert.
 

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posted October 04, 2003 09:17 PM
looking a 3-8 day right in the face.



this is not acceptable, and is a weekly saturday occurance with them.
 

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Here are all their top 4* plays he released so far this college season, the first play listed is their TOP PLAY, I went through and re-counted them all (was off slightly from my above post, but basically the same):

8/30
4* Wisconsin Winner Top Play
4* Miss St Loser

9/6
4* Auburn Loser Top Play
4* Tennessee Loser
4* Notre Dame Loser

9/13
4* Nebraska Loser Top Play
4* Purdue Winner
4* Kansas Winner

9/20
5* Ariz St Loser Top Play
4* LSU Winner
4* Illinois Loser
4* NC State Winner

9/27
4* Florida Loser Top Play
4* Kansas Winner
4* BYU Loser

10/4
4* Michigan Loser Top Play
4* Nebraska Winner
4* Maryland Winner

8-10 (44%) winners on 5 Star and 4 Star Plays. Only 1 win, 5 losses on his top play "The strongest rated college play anywhere". These are the big ones. Combined with the 3 star games, the season total is 15-19 (44%).

The 2 Star games, even according to Phil, do not count towards the overall "monitored record" and on the STAR BASIS, he is Down and you could not of won money playing these plays based on the Star rated plays. Far from "WAY UP". Unless, for some reason, you played all the 2 stars the same as his 4 stars, which makes no sense since the 4 star plays are the "Stronger" plays. He doesn't count them when they lose against his record, so you cannot count them for his record if they win. They are JUST "Opinion" plays. The 3 star and higher plays are the ones that are rated and monitored.

Now in the NFL, its the Complete Opposite and he's 10-4-1, and is 4-1 with his top weekly NFL Plays. Definately Kicking Asss in the pro's, no doubt about it and kudo's for that. But we are just talking about College and in College, for the 2nd year in a row, he's flat out sucked, the record speaks for itself.

If you bet his college plays, You are definately down. How far down depends on how much you play per game, or Per star. I was with Northcoast 3 or 4 years ago and had the entire season and was told, depending on Bankroll size, that a good "outline" was Top College plays you should bet a little more than normal 4*s if you'd like,$450, or just as regular 4*'s at $400, 3*'s $200, 2*'s $100 or less if at all. That is how hey broke it down for College based on how much I was betting on Average from Northcoast Themselves.

15-19 Overall

1-5 Top 4* and 5* plays
1 win = +$450
5 losses = -$2250
-$225 commision
-$2025 for top plays

7-5 other 4* plays not top plays
7 wins = +$2800
5 losses = -$2000
-$200 Commision
+$600 for other 4* plays

7-9 on 3* plays
7 wins = +$1400
9 losses = -$1800
-$180 Commision
-$580 on 3* plays

Based on this outline, some will be different based on dollar values, how much per game, ect ect, overall you should be DOWN -$2005. Not including if you are paying for the picks. With just the 4 star or higher, Down -$1425. Springle in the 2* selections you may play (we'll say they won 8 lost 4), I'll give you a profit of $400 and you are still down big time.

As you can tell, I have a lot of time on my hands, (under the weather)
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***He is doing well in the pro's and is definately putting you Way Up if you are just playing the pros. Combining the College and Pro season, you wouldn't be down as bad as if you JUST played college, but you would still be in the hole. And for a "College Expert", this performance (last year was almost just as bad) is horrible.
 

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I've always given all 3 of the LP plays equal value. Phil seems to do better on single game nights than when he has the whole sat. slate to choose from. He has never ever rated a sun.mon.tues.thurs. or fri. night play any higher than 2*. So of course you should count them. Follow them that way and you'd be ahead. However if he was ahead on the star basis he'd tout them that way (as i've heard him do).
By the way Geek congratulations on your great season so far. Keep it up!
 

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Yea, but Mike, you are including his NFL Plays. Include those and I still don't think you'd come out ahead, but its not as bad if you just played his College Saturday Late Phone plays alone. The games he releases on Saturday morning for his "Saturday College Late Phone Plays", are way down as you can see from my post above. By just buying/playing the Saturday College Late phone released, he's been down right Horrible. NFL is an entirely different story.

If you are ahead and winning money, then who cares, that is all that matters to me and Congrats!!!! Seriously, I love it when people are winning and if I can help out in any way, thats all I really care about. I love this forum, the posters, and when people are winning money. I make a point about his college plays because I don't want people losing and thats what many others have been doing with his college plays on Saturday. I just hate seeing people lose money or getting bad advice. I like this family of posters and wish everyone lots of cash!!!!!

Anyway, enough of that. Thank you very much for the compliment on my sesaon so far!!!! Its been a great year so far in college and I've won every week and really added to the bankroll. I really do not play too much if any NFL games, don't really post pro plays, and always found college easier to handicap and win money, so I stick with that. (I do think Indy +4 1/2 tonight is a great play though and will play a little on that for fun
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) But I'm definately excited about the college season so far, love watching/betting college football and look for a big weekend this Saturday. Unfortunately I will be away but will post this weeks games on friday before I leave for a few weeks. It will be tough not watching a lot of the action though on Saturday!! I'll be missing some Great Games!!!!
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