No Longhorns Drafted...unless you consider SMU QB Garrett Gilbert

[WinOne]

It just shows you how bad things are in Austin that for the first time in years the Texas Longhorn, that proud school in the State Capital of Texas, where football is king, did not have a player drafted in this years draft. Not even the Big12 defensive player of the year Jeffcoat who I know well from his time at Plano West and from playing ball with his pop at ASU got a call.

Mack Brown and the previous coaching staff should be giving money back to UT for the piss-poor job they did. There were more kids drafted that Texas passed on because they were not deemed "worthy" that got drafted than actual Texas players. Unless you count Garrett Gilbert who was smart enough to get the hell out of Austin. Maybe he was smarter than we thought he was.

WinOne!!

 

[GoSooners]

Some of my Texas friends were joking around here yesterday that there were more gays drafted than Texas players. Ha! Concordia and Portland St. had more players drafted than Texas. I'm surprised knowing UT the way I do that they didn't try to claim Gilbert as a draft pick. It all just goes to show you how bad Mack was at evaluating talent. Hell, they even let OU QB Knight get away from right under their nose in San Antonio. Their loss was OU's gain. If Mack had drafted him he probably would have made a CB out of him anyway. Damn, I miss Mack Daddy already! I better not try to rub it in too much since Texas beat us last year. Had to be one of the worst losses in the Stoops era. However we did beat Bama, who were right up there at the top for most players drafted. So that kind of made up for it. But it would have been a phenomenal season for the Sooners if they had beaten Texass. Pretty sorry showing for the Big 12 in general, which shows you where they are headed.. I know they have more teams, but the SEC had 11 players drafted in the first round alone. The Big 12 barely had more than that number for the entire draft.

 

[Cantpickem]

Maybe we're not giving enough credit to Gilbert for being smart enough to leave Texas.

 

[MackDonald]

Some of my Texas friends were joking around here yesterday that there were more gays drafted than Texas players. Ha! Concordia and Portland St. had more players drafted than Texas. I'm surprised knowing UT the way I do that they didn't try to claim Gilbert as a draft pick. It all just goes to show you how bad Mack was at evaluating talent. Hell, they even let OU QB Knight get away from right under their nose in San Antonio. Their loss was OU's gain. If Mack had drafted him he probably would have made a CB out of him anyway. Damn, I miss Mack Daddy already! I better not try to rub it in too much since Texas beat us last year. Had to be one of the worst losses in the Stoops era. However we did beat Bama, who were right up there at the top for most players drafted. So that kind of made up for it. But it would have been a phenomenal season for the Sooners if they had beaten Texass. Pretty sorry showing for the Big 12 in general, which shows you where they are headed.. I know they have more teams, but the SEC had 11 players drafted in the first round alone. The Big 12 barely had more than that number for the entire draft.

Word has it, gays are tying to enter the man's world of college football today. Ever since the T-Formation, they (the gays) became envious as to how "up-close & personal" the QB's would line-up to the Centers prior to the snap. If gays end-up playing QB, it wouldn't surprise me if the Centers organized when college
football goes Union, giving them some clout when they advocate banning the T-Formation and going back to the old Single-Wing. I could also see them, the gays, wanting to play defense (gang tackling) where they end-up in pile-ups at the end of the play......They say a lot of "strange" things take place prior to the referees untangling the mass of human flesh. Gay rights advocates would definitely try to fight the Unions (Brotherhood of Centers and Interior Linemen-Local 269).

 

[russ1945]

This just reinforces what many of us have been saying on here the past few years. Mack blew it from top to bottom again proving that financial success is not directly related to on the field success. It began with Mack but will it end now that Mack is gone. Once you have cleaned house with your asst coaches that leaves no excuses. This draft will have an effect on future recruiting. Who wants to go to a school where nobody get drafted. What irony that Gilbert went on to have a positive career etc, that just adds substance to the whole concept. I am not sure Strong is the answer either. Texas A&M, Baylor, and Texas Tech all have very popular coaches, the players like them and believe in them. Austin is at best a work in progress. They not only dropped they let other schools in Texas pass them by in the process. Without Bridgewater I am not so sure Strong would have been as high on the list as he was when they hired him. We shall see.

 

[linebets]

I saw horns justifying their season off not having any players drafted saying "not bad going 8-4 without having a single player drafted into the NFL." The way I see it, is more the way GS put it:

Pretty sorry showing for the Big 12 in general, which shows you where they are headed

 

[GoSooners]

This just reinforces what many of us have been saying on here the past few years. Mack blew it from top to bottom again proving that financial success is not directly related to on the field success. It began with Mack but will it end now that Mack is gone. Once you have cleaned house with your asst coaches that leaves no excuses. This draft will have an effect on future recruiting. Who wants to go to a school where nobody get drafted. What irony that Gilbert went on to have a positive career etc, that just adds substance to the whole concept. I am not sure Strong is the answer either. Texas A&M, Baylor, and Texas Tech all have very popular coaches, the players like them and believe in them. Austin is at best a work in progress. They not only dropped they let other schools in Texas pass them by in the process. Without Bridgewater I am not so sure Strong would have been as high on the list as he was when they hired him. We shall see.

Good point about the draft effecting UT future recruiting. I think Jeffcoat would have been drafted if he had played for OU instead of Texas. You better believe that the Big 12 coaches are going to drive home this point about UT when they come around to recruit these HS kids who have a promising NFL future. But even though 80% falls on shoulders of Mack Brown, I also think Rivals had a part in ranking UT's recruits too high. In this year's class (the UT 2010 recruiting class) Texas had 2 five star, 19 four star and 4 three star recruits. A little over inflated wouldn't you say...

 

[REDEYE]

Scouts started seeing the light after Oregon toyed with them in Texas

 

[cloverleaf]

Any coaching staff at Texas who can't recruit top tier players is either lazy, incompetent or just damn poor recruiters.

I vote lazy and lack of emphasis on the hard work needed to bring in the best talent.

Hell, we are mighty Texas...they will come... seems to have been Mack's approach. He got outworked!

 

[Conan]

Even back in 2006 when USC blew it on the last play in the NC game when Vince Young (constantly bitching about being passed over for the Heisman) single-handedly won the game for Texas. IMHO that victory actually upset the apple cart. I'm sure many feel the same way as what's his face (MB) seemed to take it in stride and also took a lot of credit heaped upon him by the press. We all knew better. It was a lesson for a lot of people that showed what a dominant rushing QB was capable of. Without VY they were a 9-3 team at best.

There always seemed to be a sneaky twist somewhere in their outlandish claims regarding team image. Even a subsequent showing in a NC game vs Bama (I believe) was Texas living on vapor from the past as they elbowed their way through the Big-12 off the field paving the way into situations where they didn't belong. Personally I began to hate them when they absconded with a Rose Bowl berth through Mack's influence as they leapfrogged the Cal Bears in the polls to get there. At the time this was unheard of. Sneaky indeed!! Nothing but vapor as a foundation to build a reputation upon. Nobody questioned them because it seemed they had a lock on all of the talent in the state of Texas going back years. They got away with more dirty tricks in a given year than anyone else ever in CFB. With all of that talent at their disposal, why?

The LHN deal forged behind closed doors with ESPN nearly destroyed the Big-12. But they got the money and they made sure everyone knew it, especially the rest of the conference including minor players (schools) that comprised their own B-12 conference upon whom they depended to claim a place worthy of national attention. Then they proceeded to burn everyone.

A great teacher in my life taught me something that I still use today as a way of sizing up a person or an organization. It's simply this: "The way you do one thing is the way you do all things." No players drafted who are deemed worthy of playing in the NFL just shows me that the school and its administration, especially its athletic department despite having every possible advantage has finally come full circle and it's all out in the open.

What a good day!!

 

[GoSooners]

Any coaching staff at Texas who can't recruit top tier players is either lazy, incompetent or just damn poor recruiters.

I vote lazy and lack of emphasis on the hard work needed to bring in the best talent.

Hell, we are mighty Texas...they will come... seems to have been Mack's approach. He got outworked!

Clover, Texas is always going to be able to get that certain player where the orange blood runs through his family, passed down from generations. But it is no longer a given that they can just go out and automatically recruit a 4 or 5 star player on name alone. You've got to have a better sell than that in today's football. Especially in the Big 12 where schools like Baylor, Texas Tech and Okie St. have come on strong in the past 5 years. Baylor alone had 5 players drafted by the NFL. The most in the Big 12 this year. This conference is no longer like the other conferences. Although OU and Texas are still considered bluebloods, the seperation is no longer as clear. Basically because of Texas A&M becoming the flavor the week. Or in this case, the month or possibly the flavor of the next few years. Whatever the case, it's affecting EVERYBODY's recruiting. It has already affected Bob Stoops, who has had several very good prospects pulled out from under his nose by A$M and Baylor. Texas has had the same problems, as we've seen by their out of the top 10 Rivals rankings finishes. You would think that Charlie Strong might be able to get a few more of the black recruits in that state. But Kevin Sumlin already has that corner marketed. Tough days indeed in the Big 12. Somebody is going to need to jump out of the pack and make a big national splash for this conference to gain back a little of it's swagger. It remains to be seen if it ever happens again with just 10 teams, with half of those teams not being very marketable.

 

[rolltide]

that is incredible considering they had Rivals' #3-3-2 classes 2010-2011-2012 yes not ONE player could get drafted?

 

[bigtendominator]

The rankings are joke for the most part. Football is so different than hoops to evaluate.

 

[russ1945]

This forum in particular has had many posters putting down Rivals and other recruiting services on their rankings in the past couple of years. They figured if Texas was after them that they were prime meat. Texas got caught up in their financial successes and even extended Mack's contract in light of their obvious decline. I always like the Chris Peterson philosophy of recruiting to needs and emphasis on "developing" players. The biggest downfall at Texas was not developing players and many players were just as much a part of that as the program/coaches. They think they are elite by simply being in Austin. When Mack cleaned house and other coaches left on their own it all went on Mack's shoulders. We shall see what difference Strong will make. If the talent is there it should rise to the occassion but learning new systems does take time. Until Strong is able to do his own recruiting the verdict is out on the program as a whole. Was Strong the right hire? Are elite players still interested in playing in Austin? And how long will it take to get things back on track. Meanwhile, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech are on the rise which does not help things for the Longhorns. Success is not measured by how much money you have to work with, it is measured by wins and losses. Lesson learned,
maybe.

 

[rolltide]

The rankings are joke for the most part. Football is so different than hoops to evaluate.

bullshit

 

[GoSooners]

I'm calling bullshit too. Yes, Rivals does get somewhat political with their rankings. Especially if a HS player doesn't attend one of their Rivals football camps. They are more inclined to rank a player lower if they don't see them perform in person. But you have to look at the big picture. A certain team may be able to win their conference if they are out of the top 10 in recruiting (Baylor for example). But consistently making it to BCS games year after year and winning national championships are all about having the most 4 and 5 star recruits. Same with basketball. You have a minor conference team make the Final Four every now and then, but who ends up winning the national title year after year? It's almost always the bluebloods of college baskeball.

 

[russ1945]

Found this on Bleacher Report:

Texas linebacker Dalton Santos recently took to Twitter to ask for donations, which is allowed under NCAA bylaws, for his mother's open-heart surgery. If a player is draft eligible and his mother is sick, the chance to land a six-figure salary that would pay for medical bills is tempting.

 

[sdf]

read on twitter from a non-Longhorn fan that Jeffcoat and really any other Texas recruit (did they have anyone else worth drafting? so few starting seniors on that team) were blacklisted from being drafted. I didnt bother to investigate or inquire. i thought it was just random twit stupidity. i couldnt think of any reason why that would be

I think Jeffcoat signed with Seattle as a FA and Fera did too. Not sure who else would have gotten a sniff....Whaley? Byndom? There werent many to choose from. It was a young team and Mack was focusing on starting FR and SO.

Regardless, it's why Mack should have been gone a few years ago and hopefully things will improve under Strong.

I think 4 of Strong's recruits at LV got drafted in the top 75? I didnt do the math either. I'm lazy

 

[GoSooners]

read on twitter from a non-Longhorn fan that Jeffcoat and really any other Texas recruit (did they have anyone else worth drafting? so few starting seniors on that team) were blacklisted from being drafted. I didnt bother to investigate or inquire. i thought it was just random twit stupidity. i couldnt think of any reason why that would be

I think Jeffcoat signed with Seattle as a FA and Fera did too. Not sure who else would have gotten a sniff....Whaley? Byndom? There werent many to choose from. It was a young team and Mack was focusing on starting FR and SO.

Regardless, it's why Mack should have been gone a few years ago and hopefully things will improve under Strong.

I think 4 of Strong's recruits at LV got drafted in the top 75? I didnt do the math either. I'm lazy

Speaking of the NFL, I heard your boy Vince Young's career assumed room temperature today with his cut from Cleveland. Ouch! That place is hard on QB's.

 

[Conan]

Speaking of the NFL, I heard your boy Vince Young's career assumed room temperature today with his cut from Cleveland. Ouch! That place is hard on QB's.

Meet the new boss... same as the old boss... We won't get fooled again.
(Just taking suggestions for the music at Johnny Football's welcome party)

By the way, isn't it true that the Rock and Roll HOF is in Cleveland?
All party animals welcome!! This just might work out.