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Gallup Daily: No Bounce for Obama in Post-Biden Tracking

McCain creeps ahead, 46% to 44%

PRINCETON, NJ -- It's official: Barack Obama has received no bounce in voter support out of his selection of Sen. Joe Biden to be his vice presidential running mate.
Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Aug. 23-25, the first three-day period falling entirely after Obama's Saturday morning vice presidential announcement, shows 46% of national registered voters backing John McCain and 44% supporting Obama, not appreciably different from the previous week's standing for both candidates. This is the first time since Obama clinched the nomination in early June, though, that McCain has held any kind of advantage over Obama in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.
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The race for president has been virtually tied since mid-August. In this period, Obama's support from national registered voters has consistently ranged from 44% to 46%. The 46% currently supporting McCain is technically his best showing since late May/early June, but is not a statistically significant improvement over his recent range from 43% to 45%. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.)
An analysis of historical election poll trends by Gallup Poll Managing Editor Jeff Jones shows that recent presidential campaigns have enjoyed a small (though short-lived) bounce from the running mate announcement. This includes a four percentage point bounce for John Kerry in 2004 after selecting John Edwards, a 5-point bounce for Al Gore in 2000 with his announcement of Joe Lieberman, and a 3-point bounce for George W. Bush in 2000 upon choosing Dick Cheney. Bob Dole received an extraordinary 9-point bounce in 1996 after bringing Jack Kemp onto his ticket.
All of these bounces occurred before the respective party's convention began, and in most cases the candidates received an additional boost in the polls upon completion of the convention. Thus, any increase in Obama's support in the coming days would seem to be more the result of the star-studded and well publicized Democratic national convention than the apparently lackluster Biden selection.
The official Gallup records will show that support for Obama declined by two percentage points in Gallup Poll Daily tracking (from 46% to 44%) conducted immediately before and after the Aug. 23 Biden announcement. (Because the announcement was made at 3 a.m. on Saturday, Aug. 23, all Gallup interviewing conducted that day can be considered post announcement.)
 

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After the Convention when He regains his lead are you gonna post that too?
 

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Mccain is "ahead" only in your fantasy world.

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Electoral votes are all that matter and it seems that the money still thinks Obama is a solid favorite.
 

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Mccain is "ahead" only in your fantasy world.

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Electoral votes are all that matter and it seems that the money still thinks Obama is a solid favorite.
The Twins were a -200 favorite last night too. How did that turn out!!
 

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Comparing a mlb game to a presidential election is useless. :ohno:
No, you are useless!! Keep thinking BHO will win.:ohno:
He ain't gotta shot. I hope you don't gamble for a living!!:missingte:missingte
 

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No, you are useless!! Keep thinking BHO will win.:ohno:
He ain't gotta shot. I hope you don't gamble for a living!!:missingte:missingte

:lolBIG: You only wish you could do as well as me in the sports market.
 

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Actually the comparison is fine. -200 faves do lose sometimes, specifically they lose roughly 34% of the time. Sports markets on the whole are largely efficient and accurate, meaning that -200 favorites win about 66% of the time. In a rather liquid market there is no reason to think that political prediction markets are not similarly accurate.
 

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I think the polls are and will continue to be inaccurate this election cycle and underrepresentative of those that are going to show up at the polls this time around vs. those that answer their telephones for polls. I think the post-convention electrion trending will be interesting and worthwhile to consider, but the actual data, I think, will be skewed 3-5 points more toward McCain than it should be. If it's tied, I think that means Obama is up 3-5.
 

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Your a Cub fan. You always back a loser!!!!!!!!!!!!:missingte:missingte:missingte:missingte

The Cubs are going to the World Series this year.

Regardless, I don't base anything sports market wise on my fan status.
 

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The Cubs are going to the World Series this year.

Regardless, I don't base anything sports market wise on my fan status.
My point is Cubs are losers.!! You keep believeing they are going to the World series. :missingte:missingte I thought last year was the year, oh wait, you got swept, 2003 was the year.. oh wait, you CHOKED!!!!, your heart will be broken yet again!!! Some people gotta learn the hard way.
 

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Mccain is "ahead" only in your fantasy world.

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</td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-oddrow"> <td>DEMOCRAT </td><td align="right">58 </td><td align="right">63 </td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"> -170 </td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-evenrow"> <td>REPUBLICAN </td><td align="right">37 </td><td align="right">42 </td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"> +138 </td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-oddrow"> <td>OTHER </td><td align="right">0 </td><td align="right">3 </td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"> +3233</td></tr></tbody></table>
Electoral votes are all that matter and it seems that the money still thinks Obama is a solid favorite.

In early July McCain was +260 now he's +138 what does that tell you!
The street organizer from Chicago support is tending downward. If the Democrats decided to extend their convention for another week and the voters got a full week of this pure nonsense McCain would forge ahead in all polls.
 

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In early July McCain was +260 now he's +138 what does that tell you!
The street organizer from Chicago support is tending downward. If the Democrats decided to extend their convention for another week and the voters got a full week of this pure nonsense McCain would forge ahead in all polls.

McCain was never +260. Go look at the Intrade charts. McCain was around 35/36 when he sealed the nomination in March, trended up to around 40/41 in April/May. When Obama got the nomination McCain was about 36 and then quickly trended down to 31/32 in July and has rebounded to around 37-40 since then, standing around 37.5-38 right now. A little bit of noise but really not all that different from when he got the nomination and from when Obama got his nomination. He's off the lows though, but not quite at the highs either.

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In Early July with a top sportsbook I got McCain +260


07/13/2008 by ONLINE at 09:13 AM
[Ticket #: 42602591] PARTY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY
08/31/2008 @ 08:00 PM TNT [1001] REPUBLICAN PARTY +260
 

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