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After several weeks of tireless efforts by pilotsfor911truth.org there has been a startling and very important discovery involving Flight 77.
The painstaking task of processing official data has resulted in a full "decode" of what the NTSB (US National Transportation Safety Board) claim to be the complete raw data output from the Flight Data Recorder of Flight 77.
Pilotsfor911truth have managed to achieve something that only some airlines, the military and one of the very few specialists in crash investigation in the world could normally carry out.
The ‘raw data file’ given out under FOIA request is more or less worthless unless you have access to very specialist software costing upwards of $100,000 USD.
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Normally, the chances of a member of the public being able to ever get this type of file decoded are about 10000/1.
But these aren’t normal circumstances and obviously they weren’t counting on the `1` this time…..were they?
This data however has again produced more questions than answers, for example the data recording STOPS over a mile and a half from the Pentagon.
Raw data has confirmed the accuracy of the NTSB animation that was acquired by a truth group member under a FOIA request from the NTSB last August. This information is incredibly useful as it categorically shows that the plane was nowhere near the 5 light poles that were reportedly ripped from the ground by Flight 77 – a claim that appears in the Official 9/11 Commission Report.
Another astonishing discovery is that the data also confirms that the last figure of altitude given was 273 feet above ground level. (The pentagon is 71 feet tall). This is from radio altitude so it’s accurate to within just several feet.
The VOR (A data entry figure that is used to determine the distance from an object, in this case a transmitter at the Airport near the Pentagon) gives a last distance of 1.5 miles from F77 to the transmitter. Combine this information with the last figure of given altitude and also with speed of the plane (530 mph) and simply something just doesn’t add up.
At the speed the plane was moving this puts Flight 77 2 seconds away from the face of the Pentagon. At that point the height was such that the plane could NOT have nosedived fast enough to have hit the face of the building where that hole was seen: the gravity forces at the acceleration required would buckle and simply cause an airframe to break up.
Analysis is ongoing (the spreadsheet of data is about 4 million cells of data long) but it does confirm that the flight path does NOT match up to the damage leading up to the Pentagon.
Interestingly the path DOES match up to eyewitness testimony, some of whom saw two planes and cemetery workers have reported that they saw a jet fly over the Pentagon at the time of the blast.
(Eyewitness interviews have been released in a film called the PentaCON.)
NTSB’s Jim Ritter - who signed off the Flight 77 study – was contacted by pilotsfor911truth.org but he refuses to make any comment.
An FBI team named ‘PentBOM’ (who commandeered jurisdiction of the F77 issue from the NTSB) were also contacted. However, they too cannot make comment as the PentBOM team has since been disbanded. How convenient.
All the audio from these conversations was also recorded.
Another piece of truly hard evidence makes its way into the public domain and with gritty efforts like this we really can show that 911 Truth is in this for the long haul – until a new full and independent investigation is forced.
Watch Calum Douglas present his investigation into the flight data recorder from Flight 77 to an audience at the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy Square, London on 8th June 2007. Video here.
 

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I guess at least you're now admitting the flight existed, that's a start.

So, what is their theory about the plane? what happened to it? where did it go? they have data "nobody else does", what does this data conclude?
If it concludes something like the plane "was nowhere near the five light poles", I can only surmise it proves much more.

What happened to the flight that you now acknowledge was in the area and disappeared?

Did it crash somewhere else in greater DC and nobody noticed? Did it fly away but there's no record of such, even on your newly obtained data?

I especially like this line

After several weeks of tireless efforts by pilotsfor911truth.org


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After reading the article again I'm wondering if it's a hoax.

It so full of holes, I think somebody is just throwing a lure out there to real in some conspiracy fringers.
 

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did you watch the video?


what's with the videos? don't the words you provided mean anything?

How did they obtain this box?

Could it possibly be from a "plane crash"?

and it shows the plane was in the area of the Pentagon flying at 277 ft and then?

NOTHING?

THE END?

Do you answer questions?
 

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i don't see why i have to spend time answering questions that are explained in the 54 minute presentation. the flight recorder was obtained after the government had it so if there is missing info. then it was removed. the data about the plane being 277 ft at 1.5 miles out from the pentagon traveling at 530 mph means it couldn't nosedive to 70 ft in 2 seconds. it's really not that hard.
 

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the data about the plane being 277 ft at 1.5 miles out from the pentagon traveling at 530 mph means it couldn't nosedive to 70 ft in 2 seconds. it's really not that hard.


Not that hard to?

disappear?

like I said, at least y'all now have a commercial flight in the right neighborhood at the right time, that's a start.

PS: what if it was already decsending?
 

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the video from the pentagon shows a blurr coming level not decsending. so i guess you won't watch the presentation huh. the data that is there shows the official story as a lie. this presentation is from pilots, they know it's not possible for that plane, with the info. they got from the data recorder, to hit the pentagon.
 

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I wonder how Alex Jones was able to accurately predict on July 25, 2001 that people within our own govt. were going to blow something up in New York, possibly even The World Trade Center.

Not only did this come true, but he predicted they would blame it on Bin Laden. At this time 99.9 % of Americans had never heard of Binny.
 

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I wonder how Alex Jones was able to accurately predict on July 25, 2001 that people within our own govt. were going to blow something up in New York, possibly even The World Trade Center.

Not only did this come true, but he predicted they would blame it on Bin Laden. At this time 99.9 % of Americans had never heard of Binny.


One of AJ's top stories today

"Cheney and Bush Declare Autonomous Dictatorial Powers"

A list of time classics:

http://perrylogan.org/AlexBleef.html

Alex Jones is an idiot's idiot.
 

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what do u know,willie not actually commenting on the reply he highlighted.
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what do u know,willie not actually commenting on the reply he highlighted.

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Do I really need to waste time about a prediction AJ made?

Evidently, you too think it's a good point.

OK, how about this?

Ollie North has been accurately calling OBL a threat to our security since the late 80's.

OBL as been attacking us and threatening to attack us for over a decade.

OBL as been on our most wanted list since the mid 90's.

Saying 99.9 % of Americans never heard of OBL as of 7/25/2001 is a stone cold lie.

They already tried to take down the the WTC once.

Now tell me, what makes this AJ prediction about OBL attacking us and possibly attacking the WTC so profound? I think anybody with a clue would have thought that was a possibility.

:think2:

I don't think anybody would have thought they would be as successful as they were.
 

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PS: My original response is based on the fact that credibilty is important. AJ is a proven liar and idiot. When you have no credibilty, nobody cares what you think.

I'm sorry that went over your head.
 

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oh i understand now. AJ is an idiot because he made a big stink 1and a half months before 9/11 about wtc and obl being connected with the cia and north did it in the 80,s. july 25th 2001 must have been too close to the time of the attack for him to be credible. your logic is really effed up willie. r u really serious. i agree AJ can be out there on alot of subjects but cmon man, he was telling people to call washington with this info. a month and a half before the attacks. and OBL is not even on the FBI's most wanted right now.
 

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when I try to access this site.

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the data about the plane being 277 ft at 1.5 miles out from the pentagon traveling at 530 mph means it couldn't nosedive to 70 ft in 2 seconds. it's really not that hard.
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Not that hard to?

disappear?

like I said, at least y'all now have a commercial flight in the right neighborhood at the right time, that's a start.

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Wake up Willie...

What if it was already decending?

Because with 2 seconds it was supposedly to be flying horizontally 20 feet off the ground clipping light poles along the way. That is a lie on its face value.
Impact with light poles would have torn the wings right off . A similar occurence a few years ago made a jet crash. This knocked over light pole story altitude and direction coming in is incompatible with the true altitude and trajectory of flight 77.

Sheep.


The plane is either 277 feet of the ground or 20 feet off the ground that you were told. You say 20 feet. Yet these FACTS are from the source, not what you were told occured and how.


 

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77 & 93 are incredibly difficult to believe the media/official story, whatever you want to call it.

And that piece of aircraft from the photo at the pentagon that is supposedly from an engine, is small as hell and couldnt have possibly come from a Boeing.
 

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You zombies must eat dirt for dinner. AJ called 9/11! Tell me with a straight face that OBL (aka) Tim Osman wasnt working for the CIA and fed weapons and money to spread around with him and his posse finally overwhelming the Soviets ability to hold Afganistan. How else do you think the Soviets were defeated? North is a traitor to this country for exchanging drugs for arms with 3rd world countries without permission. A top journalist was killed for breaking the story. North didnt call anything except attention to his own stupidity for getting caught working for the same shadow government responsible for 9/11.
 

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We just keep getting deeper and deeping into looneyville here.

First a no plane video is posted as "groundbreaking evidence".

Now we're supposed to believe that the jet actually made a fly over of the Pentagon in broad daylight without being noticed by all those witnessess and that once again, all the witnessess who saw the plane rip the light poles out of the ground or hit the building were wrong. And don't forget the physical evidence that has to be planted at the scene...

And the "Pentacon" is easily one of the worst films of the entire "truth" movement. And that's saying something.
 

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