New IC Thread - Thru MM

[printman19]

He went 1-1 and here is the site:

http://www.docsports.com/cappers.html?cap_id=21

It's the site he is most known for I think. MJM, I think you have a man-crush on IC. @)I don't think you spend this much time talking about any other handicapper for sure. Out of your 33 posts since joining last month, 27 are posts bashing IC. haha. Whatever floats your boat dawg. Don't take it offensive at all dude, but I don't think your objective at all but don't like the guy for other reasosn which has nothing to do with his picks. Just my 2 cents.

 

[printman19]

This is the most useless thread on the site here I think. We don't even post the plays here anymore. @)

The people that started this thread don't come on here ever and the people that have nothing to do with this thread show up and create usernames when this guy starts losing. I love it!

 

[mjm11309]

i guess this is the one thing i have found to be wrong with the forum in general. people are really critical of one another and quick to make comments. i am not taking offense at all and there was nothing overly offensive with either of your posts, but i do think that is accurate if you look at cpaw's service play daily thread and how "veterans" jump all over newbies or whatever you want to call them. as if the # of posts is indicative of someone's own individual capping ability or knowledge of this endeavor. i suppose i just like to bust balls a little on a guy that everyone had a hard on for in the past and this guy had his own thread so it was an easy fit. i could do the same for other cappers or not do it at all. whichever you prefer, printman. also, if the thread is useless why would you come back and post on it? i am not trying to be argumentative, just asking a question. i agree it is probably useless, but again it does serve some purpose for somebody, so why denigrate it? you can write what you want. it does not matter to me. i will not rip on IC anymore and i will not post here. i will try to broaden my horizons and post elsewhere in the forum when the opportunity presents itself.

 

[printman19]

mjm, i am far from a veteran and you could be a great capper because i don't know your capping abilities and this has nothing to do with that. Man I'm always looking for a good capper to follow and mj is one of the reasons i started to post because i got a lot from his picks.

What I'm saying is when this thread was started, when IC was going good and when he is running bad, we made comments. We've seen both waves and made comments in both waves. So, when someone like Razor, or Cmoise or Cheesestake make comments, they carry far more weight. Because we were here in the good and the bad for this thread.

It's just that your comments come only when he is on a down swing which carries less weight and over 80% of your posts have to do with IC or this thread. The others that made this thread, made these comments for the past two months have really not said a thing. But you seem to be harping a lot and most of your posts have to do with IC which makes me think that your opinions are not objecitve. Plus, you only comment on this thread when he loses or his losing picks and fail to comment on winning days, and do not mention when he wins or winning picks. We have commented on all picks and on many other threads.

Again dawg, what's nice about the forum is we can air things out and I didn't mean any offense but I thought it was a fair comment given everything. And I do visit this thread b/c I've been commenting on it since it was started just like the others and when I think someone is being treated unfairly or "un-objectively", let it be ic or anyone else, i make a comment.

I was just noting that the purpose of this thread has been lost and it seems to be a soap box rather than an easy access to get his plays. His is one of the first posted every day which makes this thread more of a clutter now.

I've never been a fan of "these handicapper threads" anyway as it serves nothing but to put these guys on a pedestal which no one, let it be a tout or a politician deserves. This is when people glorify Barack as a messiah of some sort I get irritated. I like policies, and facts, objective stuff, alright, i'm off the box now. :lol:

 

[cmoise1]

do we have today's picks?

 

[crzbrave]

@)

 

[capperswatch]

Let's get this thread rolling again. I say we give IC one more chance. He has done better as of late -- had a 2-0 night last night -- and I have a gut feeling he goes on a run this week.

He's got a 5-star play on UTEP/Oregon State tonight.

 

[azdesi]

From personal experience, I would like to say that maddux sports is absolute dog $%^& and you would be better off having your girl poke her finger at the newspaper odds than pay those bastards a dime.:>( As far as these other guys, I don't know. However, If you are reputable, why would you not allow your picks to be monitored... wouldn't that only be to your advantage?:think2:

I agree with your post about Maddux, they are horse #&%@(

 

[mjm11309]

Let's get this thread rolling again. I say we give IC one more chance. He has done better as of late -- had a 2-0 night last night -- and I have a gut feeling he goes on a run this week.

He's got a 5-star play on UTEP/Oregon State tonight.

i didn't buy the nba pick today...think it is wiz/grizz over

5 Unit Play. Take UTEP -9 over Oregon State (Wednesday @ 10pm est). We cashed on a nice Under yesterday in the NIT with Penn State vs. Notre Dame. For today's selection, I think we have an edge in the CBI game today. We rolled with a similar 5* in the total between Richmond/Charleston in the cbi which worked well for us and we look to do the same here. For starters, UTEP is very good at getting revenge against teams they had previously lost to. This is the Game 2 of the CBI Championship of course. Game 1 ended with Oregon State winning 75-69. I've made no secret that I like Oregon State and their coach as I beileve he is incredibly talented and unique. This guy was once a leading financial analyst, turned Brown University Head Coach, then became Oregon State's head coach, and also happens to be the brother in-law for Barack Obama. He is a talented coach and in other fields as well. UTEP will have a decent sized crowd on hand in this game, this is the only game going on in the nation for college basketball as the CBI Championship takes center stage once again and in UTEP's fairness, they were screwed a bit at Oregon State. After all, for a team that lost by 6 points, UTEP only shot 9 free throws (made 8/9 = 88.9%). Oregon State attempted 26 free throws (made 15/26 = 57.7%). UTEP is a 72% FT shooting team and Oregon State is a about 65% on the year. UTEP is the same team that beat UAB at home 70-52 and got revenge from an earlier season loss, this is the same team that beat Texas Tech at home by 18, St. Mary's on neutral floor by 13 and New Mexico on the road by 13. Oregon State struggles against high scoring teams on the road as they are not able to control the pace anymore like they do at home and I think this will hurt them in this contest. The only reason why this team did not break 70 points in Oregon State was the questionable "reffing". This team scored 79 at Nevada when they won outright, 75 against Northeastern and 81 against Richmond. I expect UTEP to have at least 20 free throw attempts in this game (compared to just 9 last game), I expect UTEP to shoot better frome the field and better than 5-18 (27.8%) from 3 point land on their hoem court, while I expect Oregon State to shoot 5-10 less free throws, shoot much worse from the field than the (60.5%) they shot at home and 8-15 (53.3%) fromt 3 point land they shot as well. In short, there are several factors that work in favor of UTEP today including revenge, better FG %, better 3 point %, more free throws at the line, a higher scoring and pace to the game, the home crowd, while Oregon State shoots worse in FG%, 3 point % and has fewer attempts from the line. THere is no guarantee in sports wagering, but this is a solid wager as any as Oregon State lost 69-79 to an Oregon team that plays at a higher pace and who is ranked top 180 - UTEP is ranked top 80. The Beavers are a Road Underdog to a tune of 2-12 ATS in their last 14 games as a Dog of 7 to 12 Points and the Miners are 6-2 ATS as a favorite of 7 to 12.5 points.

Good luck,
Indian cowb

 

[cmoise1]

Indian cowboy

4 Unit Play. Take Over 203.5 between Washington Wizards @ Memphis Grizzleis (Wednesday @ 8pm est) (Do some shopping on this line as I see some 203 and even a 202.5 out there, I will keep it as 203.5 for record purposes though). Another winner on the NBA Hardwood for us as we are 5-1 over the last 6 days for 5 of 6 winning days. For today's selection, let's take the Over in Memphis. If you are looking for some good ML plays, take a good look at the Heat as they should be game today or the Raptors who have been surging winning 4 in a row lately (we have rode them twice) as they are catching 10 points in Orlando. As per this over, the last time these two teams met, Memphis won 113-97 on the road as it totaled 210. The total for that game was set at 192. The oddsmakers quickly adjusted that total to 203.5 for this game. I think Washington will remember that loss and will be very game today. Remember, this team is down to its bare minimm in athletes as everyone is banged up from Dixon, to Songaila, James, Haywood, Arenas, Stevenson and Etan Thomas. Heck, this team is running Andre Blatche as its Center for the love of God as all the big men are hurt. In short, this team has to rely on its perimeter shooting if it has any shot, and I like the fact that Butler and Jamison are putting up a ton of shots here. Remember, this didn't stop the Wiz from scoring 115 at Indiana just the other day and short handed or not, with revenge, a ton of perimeter shots, I like the Wiz scoring 100 points here. Not to be out done, the Grizzlies have gone over the last 4 games at home as the game against Portland totaled (195) and I certainly believe a team like Washington who plays much less defense and looking for revenge, accounts for the additional 9 points here as an active dog. We have a nice cross current here as the over is 5-0 for the Wiz as a Small Underdog and the Over is 8-2 for the Grizz as a Small home Favorite.
Good luck,

Indian Cowboy.

 

[mjm11309]

Grizz came to play. Let's hope Washington does their part.

 

[mjm11309]

216 pace after 1. Final minute of the quarter zero points. Stings just a bit since I have a feeling every point is going to matter on this one. Printman is going to get all fired up at me for proving in game comments on a pick thread, but I actually rolled with IC tonight for once. So I should be entitled to a few liberties!

 

[capperswatch]

Here's my thing with IC: I think he reaches too much in NCAA hoops, and as a result, I don't trust him there.

With the NBA, however, I really value his insight and almost always agree with the picks he makes. Like him or not (and yes, I know he had a bad two-week stretch), the guy produces a LOT of outright winners with his dog picks in the NBA. And often, when I tail his NBA pick, I feel as though the dog of 5 or 6 points WILL win outright ... to the point that I'm surprised if they don't.

Here is what I typically do with IC's NBA bets that I feel good about.

1. I bet the six- or seven-point underdog.
2. I also bet the money line (usually in the +230 to +250 range)
3. At half, when dog is leading, I take them again for the second half.

Sometimes, it doesn't pan out. But when it does...and if you pick your spots, it will...works like a charm.

 

[printman19]

MJM, the only thing I was fired up was when UTEP couldn't make a damn free throw last night. I was on this over too dawg so it worked for us.

Cappers, I do the ML thing with IC too. I did it a lot last year and he cashed a ton of ML dogs. I've been riding him on this nba stretch of his (6-1). He was on fire in college in jan/feb, but man he's cooled off in college, especially on the big plays. But, I agree, his nba is doing great right now.

If we don't have his play later today I'll purchase it.

 

[printman19]

This is not confirmed, but I think he is on the Under in the NIT game and the Wizards tonight. I've followed his picks enough to have a beat on how he thinks like some of you, just my guess though...@)

 

[capperswatch]

This is not confirmed, but I think he is on the Under in the NIT game and the Wizards tonight. I've followed his picks enough to have a beat on how he thinks like some of you, just my guess though...@)

You are right and -- so far -- so is IC!!



penn state/baylor under was an easy cover.

wizards (+10) up by 12 in the second half.

 

[LiTTuP]

IC 2-2 today? didn't see his post

 

[printman19]

IC 2-0 Yesterday.

Post #92.
http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=672900&page=4

He is doing well again.

7-1 his last 8 NBA picks, 5-2 this week and 9-4 over the last 7 days. Good for him.

http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=672900&page=4

 

[mjm11309]

on fire in the nba. college don't trust him or care, but nba the nose is strong again.

 

[capperswatch]

IC cashed on Oregon St (+9) and got the outright winner!

Not sure who he took in the Heat/Charlotte game, though. It wasn't posted.