Never Gonna win it all with Leemah

[SheriffJoe]

Josh Allen plays in the trash division every year give me a break.Beats up on garbage I mean I think Allen is betetr than Leemah but Leemah plays in a better division with a tougher schedule. But apparently QB doesnt matter unless you have elite talent. I guess Bills should dump Allen and just build an elite defense.

Mahomes hadn't thrown 4 TDs in a game for two seasons until a vanilla Ravens backup D rolled in.

That Super Bowl showing against a real defense? That's the true Patrick Mahomes. Without Spags scheming and Chris Jones being a one-man wrecking crew, KC wouldn't even sniff the playoffs, Mahomes himself admitted his O stunk last year.

MVP talk? Forget it.

The only team other than KC that hides his limitations? Eagles - so yes, Mahomes >>> Hurts there.

 

[Bozzie]

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Bet ends on the superbowl..

Yes?

Agree to this or no bet.
I'd hope the RX would help when you come back with a new handle or VPN as you will if i win

 

[SheriffJoe]

Pure coincidence then that he’s 4-0 against Allen in the playoffs and has outplayed him each time?

KC defense wasn’t exactly stout in those games

Offense was though

Other than Eagles, name one team Mahomes could actually win a Super Bowl with. Spoiler: there isn't one. KC is the only environment that hides his cracks.

Alex Smith was winning division titles and Pro Bowls with Andy Reid long before Mahomes arrived. I guess this makes Alex Smith "elite"

 

[exploited17]

Alex Smith had good teams in KC and the 49ers and couldn't win in the playoffs so not sure your point.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Alex Smith had good teams in KC and the 49ers and couldn't win in the playoffs so not sure your point.

My point is..

Take Mahomes out of KC's system and put him on your Bills or Avo's Bengals? You'd get the same 22-ish points per game, maybe fewer. The "rings" hype blinds people to the fact that KC’s setup is doing most of the heavy lifting.

The REAL Mahomes

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888750947159183697

QBs like Tua and Dak would thrive in KC.

 

[exploited17]

Oh, no......Mahomes doesn't win every game and every title every year so he sucks

 

[SheriffJoe]

Oh, no......Mahomes doesn't win every game and every title every year so he sucks

Correct. Outside of KC, he sucks with no titles.

 

[exploited17]

Correct. Outside of KC, he sucks with no titles.

Nice cope.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Nice cope.

No cope. You can't name a single team he'd carry on his back to a Super Bowl....because there isn't one.

Glorified system QB inside a GREAT system.

I'm sorry I have to bash him, after all, he's still better than Hurts, Lamar, Dak, Tua, Burrow etc., but the Mahomes hype in this forum is out of control!

 

[Willie99]

Never goona win it all with Joe

 

[Willie99]

Never gonna win it all with Josh

 

[Willie99]

Or Tua, Justin, AARON(2010 is ancient history), Caleb, Dak, .....

 

[SheriffJoe]

Football IQ test for all the Nick Wright Posers

Is Patrick Mahomes going to the HOF? Yes.
Is Josh Allen going to the HOF? Yes.

Is Andy Reid going to the HOF? Yes.
Is Shawn McDummy going to the HOF? LOL

Is Travis Kelce going to the HOF? Yes.
Is Kincaid/Knox/whoever going to the HOF? No.

Is Chris Jones going to the HOF? Yes.
Is (pick ANY Bills defensive player) going to the HOF? No.

But, but, but, Mahomes is just better coz he beat Allen in the playoffs

No, no, and... NO. Football is a TEAM sport It's the KC SYSTEM, stupid!

You could run the same quiz with Burrow, since Ja'Marr Chase almost certainly is headed to the HOF. Joe Burrow has Jerry Rice 2.0 lining up beside him every snap, yet this "franchise QB" can't even make the playoffs! Think about THAT

So you seee... those two could NOT carry a team on their backs the way Allen does in Buffalo. Not in a million years. Bills don't have a winning roster.

 

[exploited17]

Your whole argument was Alex Smith was winning but he didn't win a SB. You defeated your own argument.

Passing is king running is trash.

Lamar is maybe the best runner and hes a choker . Vick was up there too and trash

 

[SheriffJoe]

Your whole argument was Alex Smith was winning but he didn't win a SB. You defeated your own argument.

Passing is king running is trash.

Lamar is maybe the best runner and hes a choker . Vick was up there too and trash

Pay attention!

My argument is the KC SYSTEM makes any decent QB look like...well, Mahomes.

Whether it's Alex Smith winning division titles or Mahomes winning playoff games with HOF coach Andy Reid.

KC has the HOF supporting cast.
SF had the supporting cast.
Buffalo does not.

Doesn't mean Allen won't eventually win a SB, he very well could. It means he's not starting on third base every year like Mahomes.

You are completely out of your mind if you believe Mahomes >>>> Allen, in that Mahomes would get your Bills "over the hump"

Absurd and patently, objectively untrue.

 

[Avocado33]

Pay attention!

My argument is the KC SYSTEM makes any decent QB look like...well, Mahomes.

Thing is you said this about the "Bengals system"

Look at how bad the Bengals offense is with Browning compared to how good it was last year with Burrow

 

[exploited17]

Mahomes, Brady and Montana......"sysyem QBs" Allen do it all elite QB

 

[Avocado33]

"System" QBs lol

What does that even mean?

 

[Acebb]

Two thoughts.

1. As time passes, Brady's accomplishments look much more impressive and Belichick's less so.

2. If you put Mahomes on the Bengals to play the Lions this weekend, they would score 30. At least.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Thing is you said this about the "Bengals system"

Look at how bad the Bengals offense is with Browning compared to how good it was last year with Burrow

What "Bengals system"? The Bengals are total CHAOS with or without Burrow. And with 11 penalties last night, there's more going on than "blaming the QB." Or is everyone too distracted by Jake Browning's INSANELY HOT wife?

Imagine Joe Montana or Steve Young missing the playoffs with Jerry Rice. That's JoeyB.

But unlike the Bengals and Bills, KC already has a Super Bowl roster without a QB. Most decent QBs would do fine under Andy Reid's SYSTEM.