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Lamar has at least kept an AFC championship game close against the Chiefs

And actually beaten a divisional champ in the playoffs

And won a road playoff game

He’s accomplished more than Allen to this point
 

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Let's remember why Lamar wasn't a high draft pick. He has MVP level athletic ability and football talent, times two, but when it comes to decision making and being able to adjust on the fly...his capability is equal to and reflects his Wunderlic score of 13. He hasn't made any progress on those intangibles although he throws fewer interceptions.
 

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Let's remember why Lamar wasn't a high draft pick. He has MVP level athletic ability and football talent, times two, but when it comes to decision making and being able to adjust on the fly...his capability is equal to and reflects his Wunderlic score of 13. He hasn't made any progress on those intangibles although he throws fewer interceptions.
Led the league in passing yards and QB rating heading into today , before Burrow overtook him in yards

29 TDs, 3 interceptions

And he can run better than any other QB

Passing volume has gone up too
 

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Not sure the reason to trash Lamar when Allen is in the same boat
Nothing can be further from truth! Allen's career playoff QB rating jumps 8 points, from his regular season career QB rating. The fourth best of All-time! Proven INDIVIDUAL playoff performer! (Minimum 6 starts) Lamar is the ABSOLUTE WORST of all-time!! His career QB rating is 100. His career playoff QB rating is 75 worst drop in the history of the NFL!!! NUFF SAID!
 

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Lamar is awful in the playoffs. Ravens might have won a game or two in the playoffs, but it wasn't because of Lamar, closer inspite of Lamar..

Lamar hasn't come close to the playoff performance Allen put on against KC, and never will. Everyone saw how bad Lamar was in the game against KC last year. God awful
 

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Nothing can be further from truth! Allen's career playoff QB rating jumps 8 points, from his regular season career QB rating. The fourth best of All-time! Proven INDIVIDUAL playoff performer! (Minimum 6 starts) Lamar is the ABSOLUTE WORST of all-time!! His career QB rating is 100. His career playoff QB rating is 75 worst drop in the history of the NFL!!! NUFF SAID!
Stats can be very deceiving in short sample sizes

Allen has had 3 great playoff games, 4 decent ones, and 3 bad ones. Put up crazy numbers in some wins over Mac Jones and Mason Rudolph. Got some great garbage time numbers when Mahomes and the Chiefs destroyed Allen in his only AFC championship game appearance

Also cost his team against the Texans, and laid a 10-point egg at home against the Bengals when Burrow kicked his teeth in

Lamar has sucked in the playoffs but Allen hasnt accomplished shit compared to Lamar. Neither have won Jack shit

Lamar is a sure fire Hall Of Famer, whereas at this rate Allen won’t get there

You want to compare stats? Look at their whole careers. lol at “Lamar can’t pass”

Maybe Allen should have passed better in his 9-for-30 game this year, or the week before when Lamar beat him 35-10
 

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Maybe Allen should get a game against Tenn to start a playoff run where Tannehill gives you the game like what the Bengals received that day. Or having the Ravens hand you a playoff game by fumbling the ball on the way into the end zone which was another gift to the Bengals. But those results are just fuckn great Burrow and Bengal wins.. lol
 

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Maybe Allen should get a game against Tenn to start a playoff run where Tannehill gives you the game like what the Bengals received that day. Or having the Ravens hand you a playoff game by fumbling the ball on the way into the end zone which was another gift to the Bengals. But those results are just fuckn great Burrow and Bengal wins.. lol
I get winning is more than the QB

But Burrow has also never laid an egg in a playoff game

That Tennessee game Burrow sat in the pocket and threw for 300+ yards on 75% completion percentage despite no running game and getting sacked NINE times because of the worst offensive line in the league

Burrow carried the worst offensive line in the league to the Super Bowl.

The defense made timely turnovers as well, but the degree of difficulty when your offensive line is so fucking awful is pretty damn high.

And despite that Burrow has very respectable playoff numbers himself and great team success

The only active QB to beat Mahomes in a playoff game
 

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Maybe Allen should get a game against Tenn to start a playoff run where Tannehill gives you the game like what the Bengals received that day.
He’s been given Mac Jones, Skylar Thompson, and Mason Rudolph as opponents his last 3 seasons at home . His last 3 playoff wins. Can’t be given much better than that.

Then he lost in the next round to Mahomes, Burrow, and Mahomes in that order when he had to play against a real QB
 

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Ravens are more likely to lose as a result of their secondary.

Only one worse than theirs is Cincinnati’s
 

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Stats can be very deceiving in short sample sizes

Allen has had 3 great playoff games, 4 decent ones, and 3 bad ones. Put up crazy numbers in some wins over Mac Jones and Mason Rudolph. Got some great garbage time numbers when Mahomes and the Chiefs destroyed Allen in his only AFC championship game appearance

Also cost his team against the Texans, and laid a 10-point egg at home against the Bengals when Burrow kicked his teeth in

Lamar has sucked in the playoffs but Allen hasnt accomplished shit compared to Lamar. Neither have won Jack shit

Lamar is a sure fire Hall Of Famer, whereas at this rate Allen won’t get there

You want to compare stats? Look at their whole careers. lol at “Lamar can’t pass”

Maybe Allen should have passed better in his 9-for-30 game this year, or the week before when Lamar beat him 35-10
No short samples here. It's both their career numbers!! Lamar shits the bed in the playoffs! All time worst! Allen turns it up during the playoffs! Championships great measuring stick in tennis and golf!! Not in a team sport when you're on the bench for over half the game. Keep trying to prove your point that Allen and Lamar are in the same boat come playoff time, when nothing can be further from factual.
 

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Burrow 5 games over three hundred yards passing and three TDs in each game all losses
Horrible coaching and a shit defense
He's handled himself well in defeat, he was all class in todays post game news conference....
 

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I get winning is more than the QB

But Burrow has also never laid an egg in a playoff game

That Tennessee game Burrow sat in the pocket and threw for 300+ yards on 75% completion percentage despite no running game and getting sacked NINE times because of the worst offensive line in the league

Burrow carried the worst offensive line in the league to the Super Bowl.

The defense made timely turnovers as well, but the degree of difficulty when your offensive line is so fucking awful is pretty damn high.

And despite that Burrow has very respectable playoff numbers himself and great team success

The only active QB to beat Mahomes in a playoff game
Tannehill threw 3 pics, one of them in the last possesion of the game driving for the winning score. Same as the Ravens gift to you a couple of years ago. Who cares how well Burrow played, that was a gift whether you want to believe it or not.

The way it's going that will be the Bengals and Burrows high watermark in this era, is beating the Chiefs in a playoff game. Congrats.
 

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I still think the Bills get bullied up the middle of that defense in the end this year
 

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Ravens are more likely to lose as a result of their secondary.

Only one worse than theirs is Cincinnati’s
Probably, because Lamar sure isn't going to carry the Ravens on his back in the playoffs. He's not capable of it. Regular season stats he piles up doesn't matter.
 

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There is no reason to debate stats in the playoffs...you have to win the game. We can start with the fact that just about anyone would take Mahomes, Allen or Burrow over Jackson in a playoff game. The debate is really would you rather have Love, Goff, Hurts or Stafford rather than Jackson. I would and I would throw Baker into that list too because he has won playoff games with a lesser team. Lamar continues to lose playoff games when he has the better team. The stats and notes above only reinforce that he is an excellent, MVP level football player re: ability and talent. He continues to have a huge hole in his play that shows up every year at playoff time.
 

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There is no reason to debate stats in the playoffs...you have to win the game. We can start with the fact that just about anyone would take Mahomes, Allen or Burrow over Jackson in a playoff game. The debate is really would you rather have Love, Goff, Hurts or Stafford rather than Jackson. I would and I would throw Baker into that list too because he has won playoff games with a lesser team. Lamar continues to lose playoff games when he has the better team. The stats and notes above only reinforce that he is an excellent, MVP level football player re: ability and talent. He continues to have a huge hole in his play that shows up every year at playoff time.
I'd also take Herbert and Wilson this year in the playoffs over Lamar.
 

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Tannehill threw 3 pics, one of them in the last possesion of the game driving for the winning score. Same as the Ravens gift to you a couple of years ago. Who cares how well Burrow played, that was a gift whether you want to believe it or not.

The way it's going that will be the Bengals and Burrows high watermark in this era, is beating the Chiefs in a playoff game. Congrats.
Teams get good and bad bounces.

Bengals got good turnover luck in that run, but also got hosed the next year

Chiefs have gotten many, including that officiating in the second AFC championship game against the Bengals and that Super Bowl

Bills got a fumble out of the end zone gift against Chiefs last year that would’ve ended the game. Allen also fumbled on their drive to try and tie the game that went through the hands of Chiefs defenders that would have ended the game. Those weren’t gifts?

Or how about the neutral site ruling for the AFC championship game because of the Hamlin situation and getting a bonus home playoff game out of it against Cincinnati? That wasn’t a gift?

Difference is Bills couldn’t take advantage .

As far as watermarks go, Bengals have a much higher one than the Bills in recent years .

And the same as Lamar and the Ravens
 

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Teams get good and bad bounces.

Bengals got good turnover luck in that run, but also got hosed the next year

Chiefs have gotten many, including that officiating in the second AFC championship game against the Bengals and that Super Bowl

Bills got a fumble out of the end zone gift against Chiefs last year that would’ve ended the game. Allen also fumbled on their drive to try and tie the game that went through the hands of Chiefs defenders that would have ended the game. Those weren’t gifts?

Or how about the neutral site ruling for the AFC championship game because of the Hamlin situation and getting a bonus home playoff game out of it against Cincinnati? That wasn’t a gift?

Difference is Bills couldn’t take advantage .

As far as watermarks go, Bengals have a much higher one than the Bills in recent years . That is a fact.

Burrow 5 games over three hundred yards passing and three TDs in each game all losses
Horrible coaching and a shit defense
He's handled himself well in defeat, he was all class in todays post game news conference....
2-4 when the team has scored 33+ points . Rest of league is 51-1.

Absolutely historically bad defense

He’s thrown 30 TDs to 5 picks this year. Leads the league in passing yards as well

If I was Burrow I would want to shit on the defense, but he is taking the high road

He’s a good kid
 

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Anyone can knock off KC, including the Raiders, in KC
 

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