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Netanyahu and Putin agree to expand and deepen military coordination

Putin also extended his good wishes ahead of the "very bright" Jewish holiday of Hanukkah

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israe...ee-to-expand-and-deepen-military-coordination

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Yep, in a world with ZERO American leadership, you gotta pick your poison.

Putin may not be the most innocent guy on the block, but he's a hell of a lot better than Hussein and his ISIS "JV team"

Smart leaders like Netanyahu who live in the real world understand this.

Bravo Bibi!
 

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Putin is filling the void in world leadership, like it or not.


Meanwhile Obama is defeating ISIS with carbon emissions.
 

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Netanyahu and Putin agree to expand and deepen military coordination

Putin also extended his good wishes ahead of the "very bright" Jewish holiday of Hanukkah

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israe...ee-to-expand-and-deepen-military-coordination

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Yep, in a world with ZERO American leadership, you gotta pick your poison.

Putin may not be the most innocent guy on the block, but he's a hell of a lot better than Hussein and his ISIS "JV team"

Smart leaders like Netanyahu who live in the real world understand this.

Bravo Bibi!



But he is a leader. He's leading the fight against Climate Change.
 

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Lmao. How fucking stupid are you people. My god
They need a daddy figure to lead them by the nose, because they can't think for themselves. Stupid doesn't even begin to describe them. Traitorous does.
 

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Vit and Guesser, what exactly is it you're against, Israel and Russia trying to avoid another catastrophic incident in the sky? Or are you just upset because another thread was posted about how bad Obama sucks? Is it a bad thing if Russian-Israeli relations improve? Not to me. It tells me Israel ha a green light to destroy Hizb'Allah if they start shit. And eventually they and Hamas will have to be beaten to a pulp or there will never be peace for Israel. Don't worry about Israel-Russa. Worry that Russian and American planes are flying in a warzone with Russia's equipped with air to air missiles. That's a dangerous situation.

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Russia’s Failed Adventure in Syria

by Con Coughlin, GATESTONE INSTITUTE
Russian President Vladimir Putin may well come to regret agreeing to Iran’s request for Moscow to intervene militarily in Syria’s brutal civil war.

The shooting down of a Russian warplane over the Syrian border by Turkey has graphically illustrated the risks Moscow faces after the Kremlin agreed to intervene on behalf of Syria’s beleaguered President Bashar al-Assad.

Mr Putin took his fateful decision to launch military action in Syria after meeting Major-General Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s notorious Quds Force, in Moscow last August. Visiting Moscow shortly after the conclusion of June’s deal on the future of Iran’s nuclear programme (JCPOA), Soleimani delivered a blunt warning to the Russian leader that the Assad regime, Russia’s long-standing strategic ally in the Middle East, faced defeat without outside support.

Major-General Soleimani’s intervention was sufficient to persuade Mr Putin to enter the Syria fray, and within weeks Russian SU-24 Sukhoi bombers were regularly attacking the positions of opposition fighters, while forces from Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) have been brought in as reinforcements to bolster the ranks of pro-Assad Syrian Army forces and their Lebanese Hizbollah allies.

Yet, even before last week’s shooting down of a Russian SU-24 bomber by a Turkish F-16 fighter, there were clear signs that the new joint Russian-Iranian offensive is struggling to make headway against the Syrian rebels.

The first sign that Russia’s military intervention was not going according to plan came in October, when a Russian-backed plan to recapture the strategically important northern Syrian city of Hama was halted by stiff rebel resistance. Western intelligence sources say one decisive factor was the delivery to the rebels of 500 U.S.-made TOW anti-tank missiles, believed to have been provided by the Saudis.

In what has since become known locally as the “massacre of the tanks”, nearly 20 tanks and armoured personnel carriers fielded by the Assad regime were knocked out of action by the highly accurate TOW missiles.
The fierce resistance put up by anti-government forces, which also claimed the lives of several senior Iranian Revolutionary Guard officers, dealt a serious blow to the morale of regime loyalists. It also resulted in a significant change of tactics on the part of the Russians who, aware of the limitations of the regime’s ground forces, have increased their reliance on air power to achieve their objective of defeating the rebels.


But while the Russians insist that their main attacks in Syria are being directed against fighters associated with the so-called Islamic State (ISIS), the reality is that they are bombing a large variety of anti-Assad forces – including those backed by the U.S.-led military coalition. One of the explanations given for the Turks shooting down a Russian SU-24 jet was that it had been bombing rebel groups backed by Turkey rather than ISIS, as the Russians later claimed.

The lack of progress made in Syria since Mr Putin first authorized Russian military involvement could soon have serious repercussions for the Kremlin.

Public support for the mission in Russia is starting to wane, after Investigators suggested the bombing of a Russian passenger jet over Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula at the end of October, killing all 224 on board, was carried out by ISIS terrorists in retaliation for Moscow’s military campaign.

Many Russians are also wary of the country becoming embroiled in another long, drawn-out military entanglement, as happened in Afghanistan in the 1980s and ultimately ended with the Soviet Union suffering an ignominious defeat.


And then there is the question of just how long Russia can afford to sustain its expensive military adventure in Syria. The Russian economy already has enough difficulties without having to bear the cost of Mr Putin’s latest act of military aggression. Moscow’s invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s ultimately bankrupted the Soviet Union: the Syrian conflict could have a similarly catastrophic effect on modern Russia.
Con Coughlin is the Defence Editor of the Daily Telegraph, London.

 

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Putin is a despicable, power hungry, murderous dictator. That's what I'm against. Israel will and should always look out for #1, so if Bibi wants to kiss Putin's butt, good for him, but be careful who you're getting into bed with.
I just find it humorous that such a despicable figure as Putin is the new wingnut hero in this dump. You have SB posting Russian propaganda pieces as fact, Casper and Dave stroking it to Vlad.
I'm an American, and I'm interested in America's best interest. I recognize what Russia and Putin is, and I think you do also. No one to be admired like these idiots do.
 

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Putin is a despicable, power hungry, murderous dictator. That's what I'm against. Israel will and should always look out for #1, so if Bibi wants to kiss Putin's butt, good for him, but be careful who you're getting into bed with.
I just find it humorous that such a despicable figure as Putin is the new wingnut hero in this dump. You have SB posting Russian propaganda pieces as fact, Casper and Dave stroking it to Vlad.
I'm an American, and I'm interested in America's best interest. I recognize what Russia and Putin is, and I think you do also. No one to be admired like these idiots do.

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Actually both Putin and Bibi are two guys who need all the friends they can get albeit for different reasons. This is an alliance of convenience but is also necessary to avoid a disaster in the air. There is no butt kissing or political bedmating.

Putin is selfishly ambitious yet unlike Obama does not hide under the covers and pretend ISIS doesn't exist. Alpha recognizes Alpha. Killers recognize other killers and at least Putin doesn't wait around for someone else to call ISIS what it is before realizing it needs to be decapitated. I know that his hands are dirty as he's targeting Assad's opposition as well.

The Righty's here may not condemn the bad he does and a lot of the praise he receives here is because he leads while Obama dithers. Obama was caught with his zipper down when the Arab Street rose up vs dictatorship. He did nothing. Had he aligned himself with the loud voices seeking to overthrow ME dictatorships it's possible the current situation would not have gotten so out of hand. I said possible. Posters in here always write with such certainty, both left and right. I don't know where this certainty comes from......
 

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In the Face of ISIS Obama Offers Overt Cowardice

Sunday, November 29, 2015, 1:08 AM - by Paul McHale

Paul McHale is a former Democratic member of Congress from Pennsylvania, a former assistant secretary of defense, and a retired Marine colonel with 33 years of active and reserve service

The lineup was impressive.

During the last week, Bob Gates, Leon Panetta, Chuck Hagel, Dianne Feinstein, Mike Vickers, Mike Flynn - even Hillary Clinton - all took shots at President Obama's strategy to defeat Islamic State. Or to be more precise, they correctly noted the absence of such a strategy.

In the face of this bipartisan criticism from defense and intelligence heavyweights, Obama has relentlessly continued his smug, morally superior, emotionally contained, intellectually detached impersonation of Neville Chamberlain. Our president really, really doesn't want us to be drawn into an avoidable conflict. Let someone else do the fighting. And above all, we must not "overreact" to the tragic loss of life in Paris.

But rest assured, Islamic State has been "contained." Because he says so.

The true danger to global security, the president has concluded, lies within the very core of our national character: We the people are prone to racism, religious bigotry, "right wing" extremism, and gun-toting violence. Every war is a potential Vietnam. Every administration critic is a Joe McCarthy. Every police officer is a presumed Bull Connor. And so Obama's mission in life is to courageously confront his own country's arrogance. All will be good in the world (he thinks) so long as our inner John Wayne stays locked up.

How could we have elected (twice) a president with so little faith in America? That question will be keeping historians occupied for the next 100 years. But right now, there's a wolf closer to the sled.

Contrary to the president's assertion, ISIS does indeed pose a "mortal" threat to the United States. That threat is real and it is imminent. It's clear to just about everyone (our president excluded) that ISIS will attack its adversaries outside the Middle East (it's certainly clear to the French and the Russians) - the only question is when and how powerfully.

In assessing the potential severity of such an attack, we should recognize that the difference between 130 dead (Paris), 191 dead (Madrid), more than 200 dead (Bali), nearly 3,000 dead (New York, Washington, and Shanksville, Pa., on 9/11), and 300,000 dead (the future) is terrorist access to destructive technology.

For the last 300 or 400 years, war has been largely about conflicts among nation-states (or civil wars and local insurgencies within the geographic boundaries of a nation-state). Over time, international law gradually defined the diplomatic responsibilities and legalities of armed conflict. As a result, policymakers got comfortable with the idea of countries occasionally (and disastrously) going to war. For the most part, it took the resources of a nation-state to really threaten another. Well, that day is gone.

Modern weaponry is unbelievably powerful. It's easily transportable. Put the right stuff in a backpack, and a half-million innocent people may die. A hard truth has emerged in the last quarter-century: Terrorists can now act very much like despotic governments - they are the fascists of the 21st century.

I expect that during the next 100 years, individual terrorist organizations will come and go, leaving a trail of blood as they are successively defeated. But their defeat will require a sober reassessment of international law and the role of multinational institutions; indeed, it will require a reconsideration of some basic principles of nation-state sovereignty.

In this new threat environment, how can a country effectively protect itself from a confirmed terrorist threat emanating from within the borders of another country? Under such circumstances, is a unilateral military strike morally and legally justified? Can such a strike be preemptive? Is it an act of war against the country in which the strike takes place?

After U.S. special-operations forces delivered justice to Osama bin Laden, the Pakistani chief of staff complained bitterly to a senior American official that the Abbottabad raid was a breach of his country's sovereignty. He was told not to take it personally. We'd do it anywhere. And so we must.

The challenge now is to develop a new definition of permissible state action when confronting a very fluid - and powerful - terrorist threat environment. In Lincoln's phrase, it requires us to think anew.

In the remaining year of his presidency, Obama can do much for our country (and much to repair his tattered foreign-policy legacy) by letting go of his sympathetic identification with the antiwar movement of the 1960s. Like many of my generation, I opposed - and actively protested - the war in Vietnam. That war was an immense tragedy. We should learn from that painful experience - but overt cowardice in the face of ISIS isn't the lesson to be learned.

The intense criticism of the president's ISIS "strategy" from former defense officials has been blunt in content and public in delivery. Their message has a consistent theme. Outdated and misguided presidential rhetoric won't stop the beheadings, the mass migration of innocent Syrians, or the barbaric intolerance of religious fanatics.

It's time for the United States to lead from the front.

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I give ISIS 3-6 months before it disburses into little terror cells conducting Paris style attacks throughout Europe and the ME.

Islamic State Defections Mount as Death Toll Rises, U.S. Official Says - Tom Vanden Brook
Defections of Islamic State fighters have begun to thin their ranks in Iraq in the last month, intelligence reports show. Military officials estimate that the campaign has killed 23,000 Islamic State fighters, raising their death toll by 3,000 since mid-October. Near Kirkuk in the last week, 90 Islamic State fighters laid down their arms and turned themselves over to Kurdish peshmerga forces, said Army Col. Steve Warren, spokesman for the anti-ISIS coalition in Baghdad. (USA Today)
 

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Netanyahu Calls for Friendly Countries to Change UN Voting Pattern on Israel - Herb Keinon
Israel will begin asking countries with whom it has friendly ties and who want Israeli cooperation to change their anti-Israel voting patterns at the UN, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday after speaking with numerous heads of state at the climate conference in Paris. Netanyahu said leaders from around the world - including Arab states - approached him at the conference to talk about counter-terrorism and technological issues.
Netanyahu met in Paris with U.S. President Barack Obama, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, Japanese Premier Shinzo Abe, French President Francois Hollande, and even shook hands and greeted PA President Mahmoud Abbas. (Jerusalem Post)

 

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Americans are going to lose their lives because of this dithering idiot. It is only a question of time and numbers.

Will it be 200 like Paris, 3,000 like 9/11 or 400,000 like Scott's article fears?
 

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Americans are going to lose their lives because of this dithering idiot. It is only a question of time and numbers.

Will it be 200 like Paris, 3,000 like 9/11 or 400,000 like Scott's article fears?

Might not even be ISIS Joe. I posted a piece several weeks back about nuclear material from Russan stockpiles being sold to the highest bidder by criminal gangs on the black market.

What's scary as well is, look at the title of this thread. We can't get nation states to agree on a way to fight terror groups without cheating. Turkey cheating on oil. Putin cheating to gain more power and influence, and to keep his boy in power in Syria. Can't even agree where individual planes can fly while the common enemy has no air force!!!

Terrorists emulate the "successful" missions of previous terrorists. Expect gangs of 8-15 in their 20s and 30s to blend into neighborhoods for a few months, renting adjacent apartments etc. Expect this to occur in multiple cities where on a Friday night they do a hostage situation at a movie or concert, a driveby machine gun firing at an outdoor cafe, and a stadium suicide bomb. Others are planning something bigger. It's inevitable.
 

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Putin is a despicable, power hungry, murderous dictator. That's what I'm against. Israel will and should always look out for #1, so if Bibi wants to kiss Putin's butt, good for him, but be careful who you're getting into bed with.
I just find it humorous that such a despicable figure as Putin is the new wingnut hero in this dump. You have SB posting Russian propaganda pieces as fact, Casper and Dave stroking it to Vlad.
I'm an American, and I'm interested in America's best interest. I recognize what Russia and Putin is, and I think you do also. No one to be admired like these idiots do.

Bunch of sick fucks here. Their parents must be so ashamed. Waste of lives.....thankfully these old fucks will be gone soon.....either natural or by cop after shooting innocent people.
 
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Bunch of sick fucks here. Their parents must be so ashamed. Waste of lives.....thankfully these old fucks will be gone soon.....either natural or by cop after shooting innocent people.

So you're hoping that people here will get shot and killed by cops. You are one sick fucker. Go get some help you sick bastard.
 

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So you're hoping that people here will get shot and killed by cops. You are one sick fucker. Go get some help you sick bastard.

When a right winger goes on a shooting spree.....yea, I hope a cop kills him.

Hell awaits you! God isnt fooled because you show up at church....he knows you live as an angry hateful asshole.
 

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Putin is a despicable, power hungry, murderous dictator. That's what I'm against. Israel will and should always look out for #1, so if Bibi wants to kiss Putin's butt, good for him, but be careful who you're getting into bed with.
I just find it humorous that such a despicable figure as Putin is the new wingnut hero in this dump. You have SB posting Russian propaganda pieces as fact, Casper and Dave stroking it to Vlad.
I'm an American, and I'm interested in America's best interest. I recognize what Russia and Putin is, and I think you do also. No one to be admired like these idiots do.



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Russia’s President invited the journalists to compare the global military presence of Russia and the US/NATO, as well as their military spending levels. He also urged them to look at the steps each side has taken in connection with the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Russia’s military policy is “not global, offensive, or aggressive,” Putin stressed, adding that Russia has “virtually no bases abroad,” and the few that do exist are remnants of its Soviet past.



He explained that there were small contingents of Russian armed forces in Tajikistan on the border with Afghanistan, mainly due to the high terrorist threat in the area. There is an airbase in Kyrgyzstan, which was opened at request of the Kyrgyz authorities to deal with a terrorist threat there. Russia also has a military unit in Armenia, which was set up to help maintain stability in the region, not to counter any outside threat.

In fact, Russia has been working towards downsizing its global military presence, while the US has been doing the exact opposite. “We have dismantled our bases in various regions of the world, including Cuba, Vietnam, and so on,” the president stressed. “I invite you to publish a world map in your newspaper and to mark all the US military bases on it. You will see the difference.”

Meanwhile, it would take only 17 minutes for missiles launched from US submarines on permanent alert off Norway’s coast to reach Moscow, Putin said, noting that this fact is somehow not labeled as “aggression” in the media. The US has carried out the oft-cited strategic bomber flights along Russia’s borders since Soviet times without interruption, while Russia stopped them in the early 1990s and has only resumed them just recently.




The combined military spending of NATO countries is ten times higher than that of the Russian Federation, Putin stressed.
America has been setting up “anti-missile systems, bases and radars located in the European territory or in the sea,” despite Russia’s repeated warnings that this undermines international security.

Revealingly, it is the United States that chose to withdraw from the ABM treaty limiting anti-ballistic missile arsenals, which Putin believes was “the cornerstone of the entire international security system.” The Russian leader questioned the move:“Did someone expect Russia to disarm unilaterally?”




He explained that Moscow had tried to dissuade the US from withdrawing from the treaty, and instead “create an ABM system together, the three of us: Russia, the United States and Europe.” This proposal was declined, and Russia had to, likewise, begin developing “overpowering anti-ballistic defense” systems to ensure strategic balance. According to Putin, Russia has made “significant strides in this area.”
“Everything we do is just a response to the threats emerging against us. Besides, what we do is limited in scope and scale, but is, however, sufficient to ensure Russia’s security,” Putin underlined.
Nevertheless, Putin said he views America not as Russia’s rival, but rather as a partner and ally on many pressing world issues, such as global terrorism, Middle Eastern crises and Iran’s nuclear program.

“We are not just partners; I would say we are allies in addressing the issues related to non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. We are undoubtedly allies in the fight against terrorism. There are some other areas of collaboration as well. The central theme of Expo Milano…is yet another example of our joint work,” Putin said.


 

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