MyBookie stiffing a player for $85,000?

[ChuckSims]

Maybe I'm missing something, but seems readily obvious to me that Nybookie tried to stiff the guy, and based off of what Rick said, it sounded like this matter should have been resolved in asimple 10-15 minute conversation.

The guy played at mybookie for over a year. We're not talking about some new player who comes in, and immediately hits a bunch of 5-team parlays, and runs his balance from 1k to 250k. Mybookie admits that they watched this guy's balnce just grow and grow. They admit to paying him o250k. SO they had more than sufficient time and reason to investigate him, before his final cashout request.

Rick admnits that the previous, lineman let this guy wager as much as 25k, when we all know thatthe most they let a person with half a brain wager is 1k, and even then they won't honor the posted line. SO here's a guy whose laying 25k, and it wouldn't shock me, if he was alos getting the posted line. Then Rick comes in, and tells the guys sorry, I'm cutting your limits from 25k to 1k. HELLO, what do you expect the response to be. That like taking someone whose limits are 1k and cutting them down to $40. SUrely Rick knew it would not be long before the cusotmer walked. Then when he walks, they refer him to thier lawyer. Clearly their intent was to intimidate him.SO they boot him, and then intimidate him. And my guess is that mybookie was probably also upset, becuase if RIck hadn't cut this giuys limits, he probbaly would have lost all his money.

I'm sorry Ken, but for someone who was stiffed for a comparable amount of money, it suprises me that you would continue to promote mybookie. UNless your continued support of Mybookie was part of the agreement, that you made in order to get the player paid, the book should be view the way you view SBG gloabal. You win a little you get paid, you win a lot, and they will try to stiff you. Seems to me the only real difference between sbg global and mybookie, is that mybookie is concerned about thier image in the forums, and what might come up if someone googles thier name, and sbg global isn't.

marc, you summed it up perfectly. The only complicated part of the settlement was how My Bookie was going to save face. So far they have failed miserably.

 

[THE SHRINK]

Well, after 320 plus posts, many good replies, and different points of views, what have we REALLY learned as a team?

Let me try and summarize 10 facts from my perspective...

1- The majority of posters, as well as The General and I, believe that MYBOOKIE was clearly in the wrong and should have paid this gambler a long time ago...

2- It is OK to criticize one of our sponsors without the thread being moved to RR as some people would have you to believe...

3- The Gambler is being paid the entire 85k due to him...

4- The majority of posters have expressed that although the gambler is finally being paid, they still won't play with this sports book because of how they treated this player...

4- Both the General and I still believe that this sports book is worthy of your business because quite obviously, you now know that there is a platform for gamblers to come in case another dispute arises and the hopefully, the right thing will be done...

5- The General and I are not afraid to rule in FAVOR OF THE PLAYER (who isn't even a poster) even if it involves one of our sponsors...

6- The posters in this forum have a lot more power than one can imagine because bookmakers do read what you guys say and apparently some of them care...

7- Although I freely admit it is difficult and impossible to be 100% objective when we accept advertising revenues from bookmakers and get paid because of it, we will do our best to overcome this bias...

8- Some of the best posts I have ever read are buried in this thread but so much thought went into the thinking process; so in other words, I appreciate many of you guys, even the ones with opposing views from mine...

9- This site CARES about the PLAYERS and we are here for you...

10-We are also only human and can err a lot. The beauty though is that you guys keep me on my toes because when I do fuck up, I have a responsibility to correct it and answer to you...

Thanks,

THE SHRINK

 

[go2guy]

Good points Shrink

 

[Rainbow]

Well, after 320 plus posts, many good replies, and different points of views, what have we REALLY learned as a team?

Let me try and summarize 10 facts from my perspective...

1- The majority of posters, as well as The General and I, believe that MYBOOKIE was clearly in the wrong and should have paid this gambler a long time ago...

2- It is OK to criticize one of our sponsors without the thread being moved to RR as some people would have you to believe...

3- The Gambler is being paid the entire 85k due to him...

4- The majority of posters have expressed that although the gambler is finally being paid, they still won't play with this sports book because of how they treated this player...

4- Both the General and I still believe that this sports book is worthy of your business because quite obviously, you now know that there is a platform for gamblers to come in case another dispute arises and the hopefully, the right thing will be done...

5- The General and I are not afraid to rule in FAVOR OF THE PLAYER (who isn't even a poster) even if it involves one of our sponsors...

6- The posters in this forum have a lot more power than one can imagine because bookmakers do read what you guys say and apparently some of them care...

7- Although I freely admit it is difficult and impossible to be 100% objective when we accept advertising revenues from bookmakers and get paid because of it, we will do our best to overcome this bias...

8- Some of the best posts I have ever read are buried in this thread but so much thought went into the thinking process; so in other words, I appreciate many of you guys, even the ones with opposing views from mine...

9- This site CARES about the PLAYERS and we are here for you...

10-We are also only human and can err a lot. The beauty though is that you guys keep me on my toes because when I do fuck up, I have a responsibility to correct it and answer to you...

Thanks,

THE SHRINK

I dont think you left anything out, EXCELLENT points.

 

[THE SHRINK]

Actually, I think I did...

11- TWO ESTABLISHED WATCHDOG SITES, such as MW & SBR are to be praised for working together with us behind the scenes to get this player paid. Thanks Russ and John...

Rather than starting threads about how bad other watchdog sites are (which we won't allow), isn't this approach better for YOU, the PLAYER????

Now it is complete...

THE SHRINK

 

[ClipJoint]

Well, after 320 plus posts, many good replies, and different points of views, what have we REALLY learned as a team?

Let me try and summarize 10 facts from my perspective...

1- The majority of posters, as well as The General and I, believe that MYBOOKIE was clearly in the wrong and should have paid this gambler a long time ago...

2- It is OK to criticize one of our sponsors without the thread being moved to RR as some people would have you to believe...

3- The Gambler is being paid the entire 85k due to him...

4- The majority of posters have expressed that although the gambler is finally being paid, they still won't play with this sports book because of how they treated this player...

4- Both the General and I still believe that this sports book is worthy of your business because quite obviously, you now know that there is a platform for gamblers to come in case another dispute arises and the hopefully, the right thing will be done...

5- The General and I are not afraid to rule in FAVOR OF THE PLAYER (who isn't even a poster) even if it involves one of our sponsors...

6- The posters in this forum have a lot more power than one can imagine because bookmakers do read what you guys say and apparently some of them care...

7- Although I freely admit it is difficult and impossible to be 100% objective when we accept advertising revenues from bookmakers and get paid because of it, we will do our best to overcome this bias...

8- Some of the best posts I have ever read are buried in this thread but so much thought went into the thinking process; so in other words, I appreciate many of you guys, even the ones with opposing views from mine...

9- This site CARES about the PLAYERS and we are here for you...

10-We are also only human and can err a lot. The beauty though is that you guys keep me on my toes because when I do fuck up, I have a responsibility to correct it and answer to you...

Thanks,

THE SHRINK

I agree with everything you said and think the only people that came out of this smelling like roses were you and The General. The only facts that needed to be disclosed to the public were whether or not the book accepted the bets, and if they did, why were they not going to pay. The facts on why they were not going to pay were not disclosed which is fine, because they are now going to pay. As I've said, that makes them a crap book in my eyes, but everyone is entitled to make their own opinion.

You guys showed a lot of professionalism by not feeding into us gossip whores whose curiousity wanted all the juicy details just so we could rant and rave with more ammo. All of the little details really don't matter but would have been fun to hear about.

I think you guys did an unbelieveable job at getting the player paid IMMEDIATELY when this issue had dragged on for way too long (which again leads to my absolute distain for this book because it shows they were dead wrong all along).

I also think you guys showed a lot of respect and loyalty to your advertisers without putting the integrity of the site in question. You thought they were wrong and you told them so and got the player paid. At the same time, you did as much damage control as you could, and continue to do, which is very respectable and shows why your business here has been so successful.

I've said it before, but I don't think it is a very good reflection on this site to be promoting this kind of book. They had every intention to stiff. It is very clear to all involved. I don't think that is a book that should be promoted simply because you have the ability to negotiate when a dispute arrises. There are thousands of players that do not know about this site (like this player initially...and he got the run around all the way up until this thread started...keep in mind that he didn't come to you and because of that, MyBookie treated him like trash and tried to stiff INCLUDING using a lawyer to intimidate him).

Although I don't agree with that decision, I also don't have your experience nor know what makes this site tick financially. It just bothers me that newbies that don't take the time to research a book and simply come to a respected site looking in their "recommended sportsbooks" sections will see this book that does not belong with respected books. Even if you can mediate for them, they should not have to jump through hoops simply for winning.

Great work and congratulations on having such a powerful and respected (well deserved) site.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

As much as I hate to say this, I must tell what I feel is the truth. When it came time to walk the walk, The SHRINK and the general got the job done, walking home with the money. The entire episode was brutal to the casual observer, but getting the man paid is what is all about. Great job, gentlemen, from one of the site's valued malcontents.

Best Wishes...OF :howdy:


If anyone wonders why I still hop around here with the abuse I take, this is it.

 

[DarrylParsons]

Now it is complete...

THE SHRINK

AMEN and nice job!

 

[picasso]

Well, after 320 plus posts, many good replies, and different points of views, what have we REALLY learned as a team?

Let me try and summarize 10 facts from my perspective...

4- Both the General and I still believe that this sports book is worthy of your business because quite obviously, you now know that there is a platform for gamblers to come in case another dispute arises and the hopefully, the right thing will be done...

Agree with most of what you said. Having a tough time swallowing the above one though. The book had every intention of stiffing a player without any evidence of wrongdoing. They only paid because word got out and they got caught. If the player was someone who knew nothing about watchdog sites, he would have been completely at the book's mercy.

So yes, it's nice that some players have recourse should such a situation arise. But let's not lose sight of the fact that MyBookie has proven to be a book that will attempt to stiff someone without evidence. Therefore, this is NOT a book worthy of my business.

 

[kidslick]

 

[RobFunk]

This is a resolved issue, and the player got paid.

This thread is now locked.