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Just about all those pension funds are way short

10 trillion dollars?

scale back the benefits to make it work, that's a must.

maybe instead of being 3x better, the benefits will only be twice as good





(PS: sans the abuses will help fix a lot of problems)
 

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Soc Sec is fine for the next 30 years

How do you get the 10 trillion? Roll the next 100 years forward???
 

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Soc Sec is fine for the next 30 years

How do you get the 10 trillion? Roll the next 100 years forward???

the unrecorded liability as of today to pay for benefits promised as of the today

the same way you arrived at a pension shortfall, only the feds don't have to record it
 

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we're not re-inventing the wheel y'know

all we have to do is copy the model employed for teachers, or congressmen, or any one of thousands of government pension contracts (sans the abuses)

Willie: I wonder how much it would cost for the government to re-invent the wheel from plannning to production.
Probably never make it all the way to production if it had to pass the EPA.
 

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I'm not against privatizing it for sure, I just don't get how exactly the transition would work. We are talking trillions of new dollars now being put in the market each year? What happens if the market tanks and people lose half their earnings in the span of a year.

What about a system that pays you back what you put it? So if you only put in $40,000 in social security... you get $40,000 + inflation back. People that live long past retirement age are making thousands and thousands of dollars they didn't put in the system.

And when it comes to retirement any system you have is a "ponzi scheme".


Think about it for a second. It's the money you contribute & plus interest. By the time you retire, you can elect to receive a cash lump sum or annuity based on your account balance. So not everyone is getting the same amount. The more you save now, the bigger the check you get when you retire. If you die, your beneficiary will receive a cash lump sum. This is strictly retirement/life insurance/health savings.

People still need to carry health insurance after their retirement age.
 

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great article

and gee, looks what happens, benefits are at least 3x better. Same thing with the teachers' benefits here in the states

that type of critical analysis never gains transaction here in the states. Instead, the liberals make it about hating old people and how much old people are going to suffer and the enabling liberal democrats that control the message simply carry the democrats' water bucket by repeating the lies 24/7 without debate.

and Fox is the problem to libtards.:ohno:
 

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great article

and gee, looks what happens, benefits are at least 3x better. Same thing with the teachers' benefits here in the states

that type of critical analysis never gains transaction here in the states. Instead, the liberals make it about hating old people and how much old people are going to suffer and the enabling liberal democrats that control the message simply carry the democrats' water bucket by repeating the lies 24/7 without debate.

and Fox is the problem to libtards.:ohno:

Thankfully conservatives never do anything to scare seniors. Well, except for the death panels lie they used for over a year now.
 

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Thankfully conservatives never do anything to scare seniors. Well, except for the death panels lie they used for over a year now.

three points

1) rationing, which is part of Obamacare, is essentially death panels

2) they have to happen at some point in one's life. We can't put pacemakers into unhealthy 90+ year old people that have no chance at living a quality life (and I'm talking about my beloved grandmother)

3) I just want the medical profession to set those standards, and not Barry, Harry & Nancy
 

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three points

1) rationing, which is part of Obamacare, is essentially death panels

2) they have to happen at some point in one's life. We can't put pacemakers into unhealthy 90+ year old people that have no chance at living a quality life (and I'm talking about my beloved grandmother)

3) I just want the medical profession to set those standards, and not Barry, Harry & Nancy

Actually it is not essentially death panels. You should educate yourself on the difference. Even many conservatives said palin and other were way out of line for using the term death panels.
 

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Actually it is not essentially death panels. You should educate yourself on the difference. Even many conservatives said palin and other were way out of line for using the term death panels.

they decide who gets coverage, who doesn't

call it whatever you want, I'm not too concerned about playing semantics with mental midgets
 

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they decide who gets coverage, who doesn't

call it whatever you want, I'm not too concerned about playing semantics with mental midgets

Seems in this case you are the mental midget. But hey not the first time. Learn a little bit about what you're talkin about before posting. You will look a little less idiotic that way.
 

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once again, people reading this thread can decide who is informed, and who is not

your complete lack of comprehension is almost astonishing, save for the fact that at the end of the day, you're still Vit
 

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