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I know its early, but I feel compelled to share some christmas spirit with fellow Rxers. Take HAWAII +8

We all know that Cincy is more talented on both sides of the ball than Hawaii, and by virtue of it's Conference has played a tougher schedule than Hawaii of course. However Cincy has also received it's conference trophy as well as a guaranteed spot in a BCS bowl. The hard part is behind them, time to get a little R-n-R before the biggest game in the schools history right. I know the BCS bowls are about a month away, but I don't imagine that Coach Kelly would be too happy if any of his key players were seriously hurt in what will be basically a meaningless game for them besides notching another "W" to their already impressive wins column. Cincy has already proven that if the focus isn't there that they are beatable or almost beatable on the road to lesser opponents---check Akron, Uconn, and WV. Hawaii on the other hand, has also locked up a spot in it's almost annual Hawaii Bowl and finished 2nd place in the WAC to Boise St.--No big feats here, but this is a team that has improved steadily throughout the season, and has finally found a QB to replace Brennan in Alexander. The stars aligned last week with Cincy's 20 pt win over Syracuse and Hawaii's 14 pt. win over WASU-after being 28.5 pt. favorites. A game in which Hawaii probably should have laid the number down, but was thwarted by missed or blocked FG's, red zone blunders, and costly penalties all which led to an unimpressive victory----the perfect storm for linesmakers to overcompensate what should be a much closer line. Head coach McMackin truly does not believe in running up the score just to get brownie points, or for his QB to get "REPS" while up by 30 with 6 minutes left in a game. Hawaii will also be getting 2 of their best impact players back this week in RB/WR/PR Pilares and CB/WR/KR Mouton--both sat out but could have probably played if needed. The Main factor here is: MOTIVATION!!!----Hawaii has only had 1 other nationally televised game this season-a 20 pt. road loss to boise st., and they have not lived down last year's thrashing in the Sugar bowl. They get verbally assaulted by just about every sportsmediaperson or college football analyst when the topic of non-BCS conference schools playing in BCS bowls comes up. They have become the #1 argument against the likes of Utah, Boise St.(ironically both teams have already played in BCS games and won.), and Ball St. getting a shot at a BCS game. On top of all that, because the Hawaii Bowl has tie-ins with the Pac-10, and the Pac-10 stinks this year, there may not be enough bowl-eligible Pac-10 teams to provide a
suitor for Hawaii to play on christmas eve. So the contingency plan would be a Conf. USA team, and that would be a serious downgrade in opponent-if only by name. So for most intents and purposes this will be Hawaii's bowl game.----and a sidenote------last time Cincy played at aloha stadium, former UH QB timmy chang got slammed to the turf while downing the ball in a win on the last play of the game--inciting what would be the nastiest, ugliest, low down dirty brawl I've ever seen, even the coaches and fans got involved. The fans will be in full force on the rock. It's been awhile since Hawaii has been more than a TD homedog-whenever this happens you gotta pound it like rosie o'donnell at a $5 chinese buffet. Points won't be necessary. :103631605
 
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Let's see.... a team that has beaten

1. Pitt
2. Rutgers
3. USF
4. WV

vs.

Team that has beaten

1. Fresno St.
2. Nevada
3. New Mexico St.
4. Washington St.


Are you shittin me. You have been smoking too much CRACK
 

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Hawaii sucks donkey balls, ill eat your bet without even chewing. Cincy will murder them, maybe even literally if any of em were playing in 06
 

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Yeah, and about them being bowl eligible. Hawaii best win...
maybe Fresno State.

Cincinnati best win... Pitt or WV.

Lets just say this....It's a man's game bitch
 

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Like some of the points you bring-up T-Zone, and also coitus maximus you "crack" me up with your smoking shit comment. But back to T-zone, if what you say has merit, don't you think we can get a better line later in the week when people hammer Cincy, as they will very hard. I don't feel safe getting 8, maybe 18 or 28. Live here, watch them, but rarily bet on them.
 

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Zone..I like your angles especially the motivation factor. But have you seen UH play a game this year? They cant stop the run, they cant stop the pass, their special teams suck, and they break down against teams with a decent pass rush. Didn't Cincy say that they were never gonna play UH again after what happened the last time? Now less than 5yrs. later they're back again?!? Nothing better than to kick the shit out of a pitiful UH team thats been benefiting from ridiculous turnovers and horse shit deep balls all year long. Cincy here to party or vacation?!? Shit, by half time it will be a party for the bearcats. I'm all over CINCY -6.5 -125. Hawaii has been a fugazee team all year long and this saturday Cincys 2nd team should put them in their place...Peace.
 

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Let's see.... a team that has beaten

1. Pitt
2. Rutgers
3. USF
4. WV

vs.

Team that has beaten

1. Fresno St.
2. Nevada
3. New Mexico St.
4. Washington St.


Are you shittin me. You have been smoking too much CRACK

you assume USF, WV, Pitt and Rutgers are all great great teams.
They are not.
 

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Kelly is a great coach and will undoubtedly move on from here to a bigger job very soon. They have a BCS bid locked up and this Hawaii trip is for a lot of fun and enjoyment after a long season. This game is not to bust ass and win by 30. It's a trip to celebrate a BigEast championship. I think Cincy can win this game but to win by a big margin will be tough. They will have a long ass travel to get there and will be playing around midnight Ohio time.

I like the Bows to cover the 8 points. You never know if refs will get involved in the game and make sure Hawaii wins or keeps it close
 

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If Hawaii Wins Cincy will not be guarenteed a BCS berth due to falling out of that top 14 BCS teams and they will be one that could lose there spot to a utah or someone else
 

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Cincy is a very focused, disciplined team while Hawaii is not...count on Coach Kelly to keep this team that way on this trip as a loss or even a close game here will be a disappointment to him...He likes to cover the spread so this will be a solid win...Look for the Bearcats to get up in the first half and coast to a 14 point or more win...Im taking them for the first half and game..

Good luck to you!:103631605
 

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A few things to keep in mind about this game:

The Washington State team that Hawaii played last week had 11 QB sacks all year. They sacked the Hawaii QB 5 times and made him hurry his throws 14 times in that game. Hawaii's offensive line is terrible.

Whenever Hawaiii has faced a halfway decent defense they've pretty much been shut out. Examples are Boise State, Oregon State and Florida where any kind of scoring by Hawaii in those games were charitable TD's after the game was decided. And Cincy has every bit as good or better defense than any of these teams.


Cincy is still fighting for the best BCS bowl positioning. So this is not going to be an all fun and games bye week for Cincy. Kelly will bring them with serious intentions and ready to play. Also just from games that I've seen in the past, BCS bowl bound teams very seldom ever lose games like this in the last game of the year, no matter how meaningless people perceive it to be for the favored team. Now if you think Cincy will win the game but your playing Hawaii to cover, that's a different story. But I would think that you would like to be getting a few more points to work with than 1 TD.
 

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If Hawaii Wins Cincy will not be guarenteed a BCS berth due to falling out of that top 14 BCS teams and they will be one that could lose there spot to a utah or someone else


WRONG! Cincy could lose to Hawaii by 100, but they are locked in to the Orange Bowl.

The Big East champion gets an auto-matic BCS berth. Cincinnati is the Big East champion. They are going to Miami to play in the Orange Bowl.

News flash....Utah is locked in to a BCS berth as well.

:smoker2:
 

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I dont like your play, I luv your play! Cinci is flying to Hawaii in a game, if im not mistaken, means nothing to them. They cant get into a better bowl game, they already won the Big East & flying to Hawaii is gonna be a relaxing vacation for them, football will be the last thing on there mind! Um, this game reminds me of the Missouri/Kansas last week, it meant nothing to Missouri & we saw how that turned out. Hawaii ML to the bank!
 

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This game has all the qualities of a trap. Hawaii will be a huge public play and most good cappers won't be able find a reason Hawaii covers aside from a plane ride and motivation. I love Cincy but it's a no play right now for me...
 

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this hawaii team isnt bad fellas....... ive watched them them the last few weeks chasing on saturday nights......... their qb alexander can throw it and their d plays tough at home........ they can only beat who is on their scheudle...... nevada and fresno are no goats either
 

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the response by most in here:

indicates that the majority of you will slam cincy this weekend. For those of you I hope you do -maybe a better line will come out of it, but I've been betting the late night game for a long time, and if any of you have also realize that it doesn't matter who the team is that goes to Hawaii late in the season, especially if they're a TD or more favorite, have usually left the rock dissapointed or crying foul. Like I said-not a slight on cincy, I do believe they are a much better team, but they really don't have anything to lose or gain in this one except 80 degree weather, a suntan and some Maitai's before their Big game.
 

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I dont like your play, I luv your play! Cinci is flying to Hawaii in a game, if im not mistaken, means nothing to them. They cant get into a better bowl game, they already won the Big East & flying to Hawaii is gonna be a relaxing vacation for them, football will be the last thing on there mind! Um, this game reminds me of the Missouri/Kansas last week, it meant nothing to Missouri & we saw how that turned out. Hawaii ML to the bank!

Kansas is way better than Hawaii. If motivation is the only reason you are taking Hawaii that is pretty stupid. Teams don't like to lose. I doubt Cincy is going there to just roll over and give up the game.
 

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Kansas is way better than Hawaii. If motivation is the only reason you are taking Hawaii that is pretty stupid. Teams don't like to lose. I doubt Cincy is going there to just roll over and give up the game.

and Missouri is way better than Cincy. I'm not saying that is the ONLY reason, but in this case it is the main reason. There are a number of other reasons I like Hawaii in this spot.
 

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