MSNBC Poll...Obama Gets an "F"

[Mistermj]

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Give President Obama a grade

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Live Vote</td><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><table class="boxPol_090303_Obama_Grade" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td colspan="2" class="headlinePol_090303_Obama_Grade">If you were grading Barack Obama on his performance as president, what would he get?</td><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" height="2"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td width="14"><input name="Q1" value="1" type="radio"></td><td width="426">He gets an A</td><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" height="2"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td width="14"><input name="Q1" value="2" type="radio"></td><td width="426">He gets a B</td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" height="2"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td width="14"><input name="Q1" value="3" type="radio"></td><td width="426">He gets a C</td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" height="2"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td width="14"><input name="Q1" value="4" type="radio"></td><td width="426">He gets a D</td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" height="2"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td width="14"><input name="Q1" value="5" type="radio"></td><td width="426">He gets an F</td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" height="20"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td colspan="2" valign="top">
Vote to see results</td><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" height="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

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Live Vote</td></tr><tr><td><table class="boxPol_090303_Obama_Grade" width="460" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td colspan="2" class="headlinePol_090303_Obama_Grade">If you were grading Barack Obama on his performance as president, what would he get? * 155731 responses</td><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" height="4"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td width="450">He gets an A
19%

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6.2%

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5%

</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" height="4"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="10"><spacer type="BLOCK" width="1"></td><td width="450">He gets a D
12%

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59%

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[OnWisconsin]

coming from msnbc, i'm sure they inflated the % giving him an A....

 

[punter]

You missed copying and pasteing this part. I dont know why.


Live Votes on msnbc.com
The differences between online surveys and scientific polls
One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an msnbc.com Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.

More recently, in an msnbc.com survey conducted after a televised debate in the run-up to the New Hampshire primary, when asked “Who stood out from the pack?” 76 percent of the more than 55,000 people who responded chose Rep. Ron Paul of Texas.

This indicated strong support for Paul among msnbc.com readers.

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But it revealed nothing about how voters in New Hampshire, or other states, intended to vote in primary elections.

In the week prior to the New Hampshire primary, polls indicated that anywhere between five percent and 14 percent of likely voters in the Republican primary intended to cast their ballots for Paul.

On Election Day, Paul got about eight percent of the votes cast in the New Hampshire GOP primary.

To explain the gap in the numbers in this and other similar cases, let’s consider the differences in the two kinds of surveys.

Polls
Journalists and political strategists use polls to gauge what the public is thinking. The most statistically accurate picture is captured by using a randomly selected sample of individuals within the group that is being targeted, such as those likely to vote in a presidential primary election.

While a poll of 100 people will be more accurate than a poll of 10, studies have shown that accuracy begins to improve less at about 500 people and increases only a minor amount beyond 1,000 people.

So, in the case of that NBC-WSJ poll, only 2,005 adults were surveyed by the polling organizations of Peter D. Hart and Robert M. Teeter. The poll was conducted by telephone and had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.2 percentage points at the 95 percent confidence level. The confidence level means that if the same poll were conducted 100 times, each one randomly selecting the people polled, only five of the polls would be expected to yield results outside the margin of error.

In the NBC-WSJ survey, pollsters first randomly selected a number of geographic areas and then telephone numbers were generated in a way that allowed all numbers in those areas (both listed and unlisted) an equal chance to be called. Only one adult in each household was then selected to answer the poll.

Online Surveys
In contrast, msnbc.com's online surveys — or Live Votes — may reflect the views of more individuals, but they are not necessarily representative of the general population. And they may be even less representative of those people who are registered to vote and who do in fact vote.

To begin with, the people who respond to online surveys choose to do so — they are not randomly selected and asked to participate, but instead make the choice to read a story about a certain topic and then vote on a related question.

They may be highly motivated supporters of a particular candidate who are determined to show their support for him or her in any way they can.

And while Live Votes are designed to allow only one vote per user, someone who wants to vote more than once can use another computer or another Internet account.

Live Votes are not intended to be a scientific sample of opinion. Instead, they are part of the same dialogue that takes place in our online chat sessions: a way to share your views on the news with your fellow users and with msnbc.com writers and editors.

Let us know what you think.

 

[gtc08]

looks like you gotta try again sconnie

 

[OnWisconsin]

still, msnbc's chris matthews defending mccain over the President regarding the earmarks then releasing a poll -- albeit an unscientific one -- that doesn't stroke the President's cock is a good start....Olbermann must be digging really hard for more dirt on G.W. as we speak!

 

[Willie99]

Are these not the type of polls the messiah usually dominates?

1) I wonder why MSNBC never used an prior Obama example in their analysis? Guess it doesn't serve their politically biased purposes.

2) why didn't they give such an analysis of how weak such polling was when such polling actually mattered, during the election season? Guess it didn't serve their politically biased purposes.

I concur non-scientific polls are less accurate. Obviously, this poll didn't have the desired results of MSNBC.

Ever see a news organization bash their own poll before? LOL

 

[rolltide]

too funny how many polls robfunk, gtc, 3peet, and sweelouise have posted in the last 4 months and this one goes drastically the "wrong" way so MSNBC and their fellow left bash it, even though they ran the damn thing

very funny stuff

lol, gtc, talk about "try again" .... how about "try again, msnbc" or more like, just tell me what the fuck i'm supposed to believe since this one didn't work out the way you expected.

love it!

 

[jacksonjohn]

If it's so flawed, why take it in the first place?

 

[PatPatriot]

I gave him my F this AM.
This has to be the most inept presidency of the first 51 days in history with the most clout hands down.

Transperancy- Signing a bill yesterday with 8500 earmarks that nobody has read and behind closed doors away from the cameras.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

MSNBC actually reporting the numbers, I don’t believe it. What’s this world coming to. Maybe since their rating suck so badly they though, hey, lets tell the truth for a change, what have we got to loose. :Carcajada:

 

[rolltide]

If it's so flawed, why take it in the first place?

because their hypothesis would be that hundreds of thousand of americans would prove that the circle jerk of obama was still on. since the results were the exact opposite of what they expected they needed to explain how you can't trust their own polls anyway

@)