Most New Jersey residents say gambling bad for state, oppose casino expansion

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A Majority of New Jersey voters have an unfavorable view of gambling and would resist the building of additional casinos, according to a recent poll.

Findings from a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday showed that most Garden State residents oppose an expansion of casino gambling.

In 1976, voters approved a referendum allowing casino gambling in Atlantic City. Forty years later, the Quinnipiac poll revealed that most voters regret that decision.

When asked whether gambling has been good for New Jersey, 62 percent of respondents said no. Only 29 percent thought it benefited the state.


By a similar margin, 60 percent to 35, voters indicated that gambling has not been good for Atlantic City where five casinos have closed over a two-year span. In November, the state took controlof the city's government due its poor financial outlook.

When broken down by demographics, the poll showed that no majority of voters in any political party, racial group, age bracket believed gambling was good for the state. Only voters between the ages of 18 and 34 said gambling was good for Atlantic City, 55 percent to 39.

On November's ballot, voters overwhelmingly rejected a ballot question on the construction of two additional casinos in North Jersey.
That is unlikely to change on a future referendum.

Nearly four-fifths of voters oppose expansion into other areas of the state, 79 percent to 19.


The poll surveyed 1,318 New Jersey voters between Nov. 28 and Dec. 4 using live interviewers on landlines and cell phones.

The margin of error for the poll was +/- 2.7 percent.
 

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Well because they never did what they said they would do in AC, which was to Clean the city up.

You could never go past 2 Blocks from the Casinos, and the extra crime didn't help either.

But if this would have passed, they could of, would have placed a casino at the Meadowlands, which would have been a Great idea.
Close to NYC and a semi Opened area.

I think it would have been Better than AC.
 

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Well because they never did what they said they would do in AC, which was to Clean the city up.

You could never go past 2 Blocks from the Casinos, and the extra crime didn't help either.

But if this would have passed, they could of, would have placed a casino at the Meadowlands, which would have been a Great idea.
Close to NYC and a semi Opened area.

I think it would have been Better than AC.
sure, but casinos are TERRIBLE for the economy
 

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IDK King, I think Vegas and Southeastern CT would beg to differ

I think casinos are dependent on the economy, but they can and do bring jobs and opportunity

I concur with BAS regarding AC. Casino revenues were supposed to be used to revitalize AC. Instead the funds went into the general fund and were spent by lawmakers in a manner only politicians can spend. If the funds were earmarked for AC, as opposed to everyone else's per projects, AC would look a lot different today.
 
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sure, but casinos are TERRIBLE for the economy

Well If done right, it can Help the economy ..

I think the problem is they don't do it right. Everyone wants to be the Next Las Vegas.

To me, there's only One Las Vegas

The Indians do it right, but that's there on kind.

I believe a Casino needs to be a destination, Out of Towners need to plan a Trip, a Vacation.

AC made it for a while because it interest in the areas near NJ. Like in PA, NY, MD
But it was nothing like going on a Vacation in Las Vegas with the Family
 

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IDK King, I think Vegas and Southeastern CT would beg to differ

I think casinos are dependent on the economy, but they can and do bring jobs and opportunity

I concur with BAS regarding AC. Casino revenues were supposed to be used to revitalize AC. Instead the funds went into the general fund and were spent by lawmakers in a manner only politicians can spend. If the funds were earmarked for AC, as opposed to everyone else's per projects, AC would look a lot different today.
Look at it this way Willie and BAS......"Joe" has $3,000 in his pocket and let's say he lives in Hartford, CT (casinos about 45 minutes away)....normally Joe would take that $3,000 and spend $60 on lunch at "Willie's Burgers", he'd then take his Wife shopping at "Bas's Purse Store" in the Hartford area and buy her some stuff for $650. After leaving the purse store, they decide to stop in at "TheRx Ice Cream Shop" and spend $10 on some sundaes.....on and on and on.......BUT instead of this happening, Joe took the ride to the casino, played some casino games and 3 hours later he was out the $3,000....burger placed missed out, purse store missed out, ice cream store missed out on the additional business.....now the Indians have it....but somehow this is good for the economy?
 

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One industry that this 'no' vote will kill in NJ is horseracing. Purses in NY, Pa., and Ohio are supplemented by racinos, leaving NJ far behind. Thus the best harness track in the US--the Meadowlands--slowly dies because trainers and owners go where the money is. Purses at Yonkers (NY) and Pocono (Pa.) are much higher than the Meadowlands, despite handles being much higher at the BigM, which only races two times a week.
You can argue the merits of supplementing what is a down industry--horse racing--but horse farms and breeders are a part of those states where racing takes place.
I enjoy handicapping, watching and betting the races, but the push - - button every five seconds slot players who dominate the modern gambling crowd finds the sport boring. That's too bad, and I'm afraid will eventually choke off the sport of kings.
 

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I live about 20 mins away from ac.... most of us voted NO to the expansion not because were against gambling, just against casinos up north... it would mean even less people coming to atlantic city .. That was just us citizens of south jersey telling North Jersey to fuck off lol
 
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One industry that this 'no' vote will kill in NJ is horseracing. Purses in NY, Pa., and Ohio are supplemented by racinos, leaving NJ far behind. Thus the best harness track in the US--the Meadowlands--slowly dies because trainers and owners go where the money is. Purses at Yonkers (NY) and Pocono (Pa.) are much higher than the Meadowlands, despite handles being much higher at the BigM, which only races two times a week.
You can argue the merits of supplementing what is a down industry--horse racing--but horse farms and breeders are a part of those states where racing takes place.
I enjoy handicapping, watching and betting the races, but the push - - button every five seconds slot players who dominate the modern gambling crowd finds the sport boring. That's too bad, and I'm afraid will eventually choke off the sport of kings.

I agree with all of this.

It's Crazy that Yonkers purses are Higher than the The BigM.
When i was in the business Yonkers was a Shit hole. Not sure if they ever fixed the Barn area, but I hope some of that money they now make did.

NJ Sire Stakes program use to be one of the Best, NY too.
But like Arnie said, Horse racing made NJ a lot of money over the years. and I'm afraid it's a dying Sport. Casino's would have helped
Hope I'm wrong
 
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I live about 20 mins away from ac.... most of us voted NO to the expansion not because were against gambling, just against casinos up north... it would mean even less people coming to atlantic city .. That was just us citizens of south jersey telling North Jersey to fuck off lol

Yeah well there's not much left in AC either. and now that the State took over for the next 3 years. I don't think things will change.
 

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Look at it this way Willie and BAS......"Joe" has $3,000 in his pocket and let's say he lives in Hartford, CT (casinos about 45 minutes away)....normally Joe would take that $3,000 and spend $60 on lunch at "Willie's Burgers", he'd then take his Wife shopping at "Bas's Purse Store" in the Hartford area and buy her some stuff for $650. After leaving the purse store, they decide to stop in at "TheRx Ice Cream Shop" and spend $10 on some sundaes.....on and on and on.......BUT instead of this happening, Joe took the ride to the casino, played some casino games and 3 hours later he was out the $3,000....burger placed missed out, purse store missed out, ice cream store missed out on the additional business.....now the Indians have it....but somehow this is good for the economy?

What you're missing is that there are so few casino/resorts that the places that have them are able to draw from people outside of the immediate area. I.e Connecticut gets people from all over New England and NY/NJ to go to those casinos.

This can be really good for the local economy if you're willing to tolerate or can mitigate the social costs.
 

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