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Prisoners should not be called 'inmates', says MoJ

Prison officers have been told not to refer to their charges as "inmates" because it might offend them.


Ministers claim the age-old term is not appropriate if criminals are to be treated with "respect and dignity".
One prison officer leader attacked the move and warned jails have already become too soft as he called for a return to tough prisons in 2009.
Opposition MPs said it was "politically correct nonsense".
In a scathing outburst, Brian Caton, general secretary of the Prison Officers Association, called for an end to the "namby pamby attitude" that has led to soft prisons.
"It never ceases to amaze me, the hypocrisy of politicians and senior civil servants," he said.
"On the one hand they say we are not going to have soft prisons but on the other phraseology that has been around for a long, long time suddenly becomes offensive to our dear charges.
"As far as I am concerned they are convicts, they are prisoners, they are inmates.
"We should treat them fair and properly but prison should be tough. As we come to 2009, prisons should move away from being seen and actually being soft options to be challenging and demanding places of punishment.
"Without that we will continue to slide down in the views of the general public and will send people out of prison more likely to reoffend."
Prisons minister David Hanson revealed the Ministry of Justice stance in a letter to an inmate in HMP Wakefield, in which he said: "Prison staff are expected to treat prisoners with dignity and respect and for this reason the term 'prisoner' should be used in preference to the term 'inmate'."
He went on to say the term "offender" was not inappropriate.
Mr Caton added: "People far away in ivory towers tell my colleagues on the landings of Wakefield Prison that they know best.
"Prison officers know best how to speak to prisoners and how to refer to them."
Shadow Justice Secretary, Nick Herbert, said: "The government would do well to concentrate their efforts on stopping prisoners walking out of open jails, ending early release and tackling the drugs trade in prison which is rife, rather than this politically correct nonsense."
A Prison Service spokesman said: "The term prisoner, rather than inmate, has been preferred for a number of years as it is more accurate and specific to those held in prison. The term 'inmate' can refer to anyone held in any type of institution."
Earlier this year prison inspectors at Bullingdon jail in Oxfordshire, said prisoners should be addressed by their first names, given free condoms and be served evening meals later time to stop them feeling hungry in the night.
In 2006, the Chief Inspector of Prisons, Anne Owers, criticised jail staff for calling prisoners "cons".


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...rs-should-not-be-called-inmates-says-MoJ.html
 

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As we come to 2009, prisons should move away from being seen and actually being soft options to be challenging and demanding places of punishment.

A revealing quote that demonstrates the speaker is wholly unqualified to be in the business of rehabilitation.
 

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"...jails have already become too soft.."

Another statement that tells us instantly the speaker has never spent even one hour behind bars.
 

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As we come to 2009, prisons should move away from being seen and actually being soft options to be challenging and demanding places of punishment.

A revealing quote that demonstrates the speaker is wholly unqualified to be in the business of rehabilitation.

Not anymore revealing than the fact that you believe in such fallacies as criminal rehabilitation.

I'm drawing on at least 50 years experience in corrections with my family, friends and relatives working in a Federal ,and State maximum, medium and minimum security institutions.

There isn't anyone that works inside the walls that believes in rehab...except the psychologists and social workers. They don't believe in it either...but hey...it's a job. They gotta make it look good. :103631605
 

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Cool. And I respectfully counter that with my own past 15 years working with a host of correctional officers from all levels of incarceration, as well as the testimonies of my father - a lifetime high level police officer in a major city.

And for past six years I've been working with local services which assist released inmates with reintergrating into the community.

Treat a man or woman with disrespect and disdain and you immediately increase the chances they will fail to make positive changes and increases their likelihood of reoffending - often with a more violent level of crime against persons or property.
 

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I've seen literally hundreds (upwards of half of the released inmates we've had come through the Pinellas County service sector) of people make positive use of their time behind bars - within the limitations that are heaped upon them.

To suggest that there is no rehabilitation occurring in the US jail system is to ignore the hundreds of thousands each year who are released back into the community and who proceed to live a law-abiding life and often an increased productivity within the community.
 

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Cool. And I respectfully counter that with my own past 15 years working with a host of correctional officers from all levels of incarceration, as well as the testimonies of my father - a lifetime high level police officer in a major city.

And for past six years I've been working with local services which assist released inmates with reintergrating into the community.

Treat a man or woman with disrespect and disdain and you immediately increase the chances they will fail to make positive changes and increases their likelihood of reoffending - often with a more violent level of crime against persons or property.

Juveniles and lesser offenders...sure...it's at least worth the effort for a civil society to try to save some souls.

But hardcore criminals and sex offenders...forgettaboutit.

It just doesn't work.
 

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Not anymore revealing than the fact that you believe in such fallacies as criminal rehabilitation.

I'm drawing on at least 50 years experience in corrections with my family, friends and relatives working in a Federal ,and State maximum, medium and minimum security institutions.

There isn't anyone that works inside the walls that believes in rehab...except the psychologists and social workers. They don't believe in it either...but hey...it's a job. They gotta make it look good. :103631605

Tell your family to stop sucking on the government teet and go out and work in the private sector...fucking cheese eating leaches.

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Cool. And I respectfully counter that with my own past 15 years working with a host of correctional officers from all levels of incarceration, as well as the testimonies of my father - a lifetime high level police officer in a major city.

And for past six years I've been working with local services which assist released inmates with reintergrating into the community.

Treat a man or woman with disrespect and disdain and you immediately increase the chances they will fail to make positive changes and increases their likelihood of reoffending - often with a more violent level of crime against persons or property.
Is that part of your probation or do you just turn them on to their first buzz when they get out?
 
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So why dont they call them by what they did?... Hey bank robber...Hey dope pusher... Hey Child molester..Hey murderer...Hey bad check writer... ect ect
 

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i remember when my west virginian neighbors, hillbillies, asked to be now called inbreds...similar situation
 

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Fortunately I never had to spent time in prison and I definitely do not plan to ever check this out, but if I were in prison I'm pretty certain being referred to as "inmate" by the officers would be way, way down on my issues list.
 

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Juveniles and lesser offenders...sure...it's at least worth the effort for a civil society to try to save some souls.

But hardcore criminals and sex offenders...forgettaboutit.

It just doesn't work.

The former slot (juveniles) represent less than 1% of incarcerated and the "lesser offenders" represents about 85% or more of incarcerated.

Those are the ones which most benefit by treatment as Human Beings.

Unfortunately in many institutions, all inmates are treated with equal disdain and disrespect by the jailers. And that increases danger to the prison guards and later to the community when the inmate is released.
 

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How about calling them what they are…. convicts

I've no complaint about that, personally - though it was the initial direction of the cited article in Post 1.

My observations in the next two posts were to contrast the notions that:

1) Prisons and jails are too "soft"

and

2) Prisons and jails should be all about harsh punishment.
 

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