more bad news for bush.. MUTINY breaking out in Iraq

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Funny how people sign up for military service, alot of them thinking its a free ride for a collge education or easy money and then they actually have to fight, and they have 2nd thoughts
 

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Funny how people sign up for military service, alot of them thinking its a free ride for a collge education or easy money and then they actually have to fight, and they have 2nd thoughts
What would have happened on D-day if "the troops considered the mission too dangerous" as mentioned in the article?
 

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Well D-Day was the beginning of a real war with a true purpose. These poor kids are dying for nothing. As a veteran of two services (Air Force and Marines) I have to hand it to these people for standing up. They drive unarmored trucks and die everyday for no reason. We spend tons of money on the Iraqi people yet our troops are still unequipped. How would anyone else feel about driving a fuel truck down the road in Bagdhad? Everyone has different oppinions about this unjustified occupation but never never never ever ever ever confues it with, or mention it in the same sentence as WWII...
 

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Wow...That was a good post.....

It made me stand up and sing "God Bless America" in my office.....Keep in mind I m Canadian...Secratery broad is lookin at me weird....

Sir (ChadC) I could care less about who wins your election to be honest with you..I think Kerry is a used car salesman who married some rich tail, but on the other hand I think Bush is a little cocky punk....

But the points you make and what you compare it too really makes you think....Thanks for your excellent post and your service as well...WWI and WWII helped both of our great countries obtain freedom...
Why is the USA sticking up for a bunch of sand rats over in Iraq at the expense of US soldiers lives?? We have already found out that there are no WOD...Maybe its time to concentrate on the people at home..
 

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Military probes platoon that refused to undertake Iraq mission WASHINGTON (AP) — The Army is investigating up to 19 members of a supply platoon in Iraq who refused to go on a convoy mission, the military said Friday. Relatives of the soldiers said the troops considered the mission too dangerous, in part because their vehicles were in such poor shape.
Some of the troops' concerns were being addressed, military officials said. But a coalition spokesman in Baghdad noted that "a small number of the soldiers involved chose to express their concerns in an inappropriate manner, causing a temporary breakdown in discipline."

The reservists are from a fuel platoon that is part of the 343rd Quartermaster Company, based in Rock Hill, S.C. The unit delivers food, water and fuel on trucks in combat zones.

Teresa Hill of Dothan, Ala., who said her daughter, Amber McClenny, was among in the platoon, received a phone message from her early Thursday morning saying they had been detained by U.S. military authorities.

"This is a real, real, big emergency," McClenny said in her message. "I need you to contact someone. I mean, raise pure hell."

McClenny said in her message that her platoon had refused to go on a convoy to Taji, located north of Baghdad. "We had broken down trucks, non-armored vehicles and, um, we were carrying contaminated fuel. They are holding us against our will. We are now prisoners," she said.

Hill said she was later contacted by Spc. Tammy Reese in Iraq, who was calling families of the detainees.

"She told me (Amber) was being held in a tent with armed guards," said Hill, who spoke with her daughter Friday afternoon after her release. Her daughter said they are facing punishment ranging from a reprimand to a charge of mutiny.

The incident was first reported Friday by The Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Miss. Family members told the newspaper that several platoon members had been confined, but the military did not confirm that.

A commanding general has ordered the unit to undergo a "safety-maintenance stand down," during which it will conduct no further missions as the unit's vehicles undergo safety inspections, the military said.

On Wednesday, 19 members of the platoon did not show up for a scheduled 7 a.m. meeting in Tallil, in southeastern Iraq, to prepare for the fuel convoy's departure a few hours later, the military statement said.

"An initial report indicated that some of the 19 soldiers (not all) refused to participate in the convoy as directed," the military statement says.

The mission was ultimately carried out by other soldiers from the 343rd, which has at least 120 soldiers, the military said.

Convoys in Iraq are frequently subject to ambushes and roadside bombings.

A whole unit refusing to go on a mission in a war zone would be a significant breach of military discipline. The military statement called the incident "isolated" and called the 343rd an experienced unit that performed honorable service in nine months in Iraq.

U.S. military officials said the commanding general of the 13th Corps Support Command., Brig. Gen. James E. Chambers, had appointed his deputy, Col. Darrell Roll, to investigate. An investigative team under Roll is in Tallil, questioning soldiers about the incident, the military said.

"Preliminary findings indicate that there were several contributing factors that led to the late convoy incident and alleged refusal to participate by some soldiers," the military said. "It would be inappropriate to discuss those factors while the investigation continues."

Separately, the commander of the 300th Area Support Group, listed on a military Web site as Col. Pamela Adams, has ordered a criminal inquiry to determine if any soldiers committed crimes under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and, if so, whether disciplinary measures are warranted.

Alabama Republicans Sen. Richard Shelby and Rep. Terry Everett have both requested more information from the Defense Department, their offices said.

The platoon has troops from Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, Mississippi and South Carolina, said Hill.

Patricia McCook, of Jackson, Miss., said her husband, Staff Sgt. Larry O. McCook, was also among those detained. She said he told her in a telephone call that he did not feel comfortable taking his soldiers on another trip.

"He told me that three of the vehicles they were to use were 'deadlines' ... not safe to go in a hotbed like that," she said, the newspaper reported
 

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6 more soldiers killed today. this is digusting.

republican or democrat this is so sickening
 

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Norgy agreed

THis is another Nam

Bush caused all of this, we never should of gone there
 

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I agree with both of you guys, I open up my browser and the USA Today headlines are about a car bomb killing 5 US troops. I'm tired of it, a waste of life. Here in Atlanta we have had Sheriff's Deputy from a small GA community get killed last week, and that fellow Hensley who got beheaded was from Atlanta.

I think its going to get alot worse, too.
 

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Norgy agreed

THis is another Nam

Bush caused all of this

AND THERE STILL ABOUT 50% OF AMERICAN THAT WILL VOTE THAT MAN!!!!!!UUUUUNBELIEVABLEEEEE!!!!!
 

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Sir (ChadC) I could care less about who wins your election to be honest with you..I think Kerry is a used car salesman who married some rich tail, but on the other hand I think Bush is a little cocky punk....

That pretty much sums it up.
 

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ChadC said:
Everyone has different oppinions about this unjustified occupation but never never never ever ever ever confues it with, or mention it in the same sentence as WWII...
You need to start reading more. There are several parallels between Saddam and Hitler.
 

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Poll shows military has Iraq doubts
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Oct. 16, 2004 | [/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WASHINGTON -- [/font]<!-- end default pre content -->[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Members of the military and their families say the Bush administration underestimated the number of troops needed in Iraq and put too much pressure on inadequately trained National Guard and reserve forces, according to a poll released Saturday. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The National Annenberg Election Survey found that 62 percent in the military sample said the administration didn't send an adequate number of troops to Iraq. And 59 percent said too much of a burden has been put on the National Guard and the reserves when regular forces should have been expanded instead.[/font]
 

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Concorde said:
AND THERE STILL ABOUT 50% OF AMERICAN THAT WILL VOTE THAT MAN!!!!!!UUUUUNBELIEVABLEEEEE!!!!!

Out of sheer STUPIDITY!
Thanks alot you 50% for fuvcking us all in the azz with this traitor:finger:
We shall never forget or forgive
 

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