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You're better than this........there are real polls out there that show McCain leading (by a few)...but not this garbage

Dig underneath there

Survey USA does not weight their survey and it's a push button poll.

Anyways, the survey is made up of

40% republicans
29% dems
26% independents
5% unknown

Sure if the electorate looks like that.........McCain wins going away.
 

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Betit, it was the first poll released that showed results of polling done through Sunday, Sept 7. And it's not a poll conducted by party pollsters.

I don't think McCain is up 10, and I'm sure some of the Palin / Convention surge will recede, but the poll is an indication of the changing dynamics of this race.

Sorry dude.
 

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The transformation is complete, the Palin pick is an across the boards victory.

General Election: McCain vs. Obama

RCP Electoral Map | Changes in Electoral Count | Map With No Toss Ups | No Toss Up Changes
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<table class="data"><tbody><tr><th class="noCenter">Poll</th><th class="date">Date</th><th>Sample</th><th>McCain (R)</th><th>Obama (D)</th><th class="spread">Spread</th></tr><tr class="rcpAvg"><td class="noCenter">RCP Average</td><td>09/01 - 09/07</td><td>--</td><td>47.3</td><td>45.0</td><td class="spread">McCain +2.3</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">CNN</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>942 RV</td><td>48</td><td>48</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">USA Today/Gallup</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>LV</td><td>54</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">McCain +10</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Hotline/FD Tracking</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>924 RV</td><td>44</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Rasmussen Tracking</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>3000 LV</td><td>48</td><td>47</td><td class="spread">McCain +1</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Gallup Tracking</td><td>09/04 - 09/06</td><td>2765 RV</td><td>48</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">McCain +3</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">CBS News</td><td>09/01 - 09/03</td><td>734 RV</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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Betit, it was the first poll released that showed results of polling done through Sunday, Sept 7. And it's not a poll conducted by party pollsters.

I don't think McCain is up 10, and I'm sure some of the Palin / Convention surge will recede, but the poll is an indication of the changing dynamics of this race.

Sorry dude.


Let's let everything shake out...I'm not the least bit surprised to see the bounce (I don't trust the 10 pt lead). I'm more inclined to go with Rasumussen/Gallup...which gives a snap shot of momentum and trends.

Palin has changed the dynamics...I never said differently. I criticized the process but I don't think I ever commented on it being a poor choice or not.

I'll be interested to see what happens in the next week. McCain's people are controlling the news right now.

I have always been impressed with the way McCain has run his campaign since the shake up in June. Here is a good read on Schmidt if you didn't catch it yesterday.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/sunday_reading_steve_schmidt_e.html?hpid=topnews
 

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It is sad when the "campaign manager" decides an election. It's about marketing to the general public, not policy positions.

Anyhow, it's one of the reasons I kinda laugh when people say Hillary's gals won't vote for Palin because of policy. We all know many of them will vote based on perception.

TJ; "the greatest problem with a democracy is that votes are merely tabulated and not weighed".

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I think it comes back to where it was pre conventions by the end of the week/beginning of next.

I think Gallup actually had McCain up 2 and Rasmussen Obama up one pre conventions.

The one good thing (there aren't many) coming out of that poll where Obama was down 10 among likely voters for democrats is it seems McCain's has still been unable to distance himself from Bush. This is after a republican convention where they pivoted from experience to a message of change.

"But here's one fact from the poll that might give McCain some pause -- the Bush number is largely unchanged. In this poll, 63% of voters expressed concern that that McCain would pursue policies that are too similar to what George W. Bush has pursued. In the previous survey, conducted from Aug. 30-31, 64% expressed that concern; in the Aug. 21-23 survey, 66% said so."
 

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The transformation is complete, the Palin pick is an across the boards victory.

General Election: McCain vs. Obama

RCP Electoral Map | Changes in Electoral Count | Map With No Toss Ups | No Toss Up Changes
Polling Data

<table class="data"><tbody><tr><th class="noCenter">Poll</th><th class="date">Date</th><th>Sample</th><th>McCain (R)</th><th>Obama (D)</th><th class="spread">Spread</th></tr><tr class="rcpAvg"><td class="noCenter">RCP Average</td><td>09/01 - 09/07</td><td>--</td><td>47.3</td><td>45.0</td><td class="spread">McCain +2.3</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">CNN</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>942 RV</td><td>48</td><td>48</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">USA Today/Gallup</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>LV</td><td>54</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">McCain +10</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Hotline/FD Tracking</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>924 RV</td><td>44</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Rasmussen Tracking</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>3000 LV</td><td>48</td><td>47</td><td class="spread">McCain +1</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Gallup Tracking</td><td>09/04 - 09/06</td><td>2765 RV</td><td>48</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">McCain +3</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">CBS News</td><td>09/01 - 09/03</td><td>734 RV</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr></tbody></table>

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The transformation is complete, the Palin pick is an across the boards victory.

General Election: McCain vs. Obama

RCP Electoral Map | Changes in Electoral Count | Map With No Toss Ups | No Toss Up Changes
Polling Data

<table class="data"><tbody><tr><th class="noCenter">Poll</th><th class="date">Date</th><th>Sample</th><th>McCain (R)</th><th>Obama (D)</th><th class="spread">Spread</th></tr><tr class="rcpAvg"><td class="noCenter">RCP Average</td><td>09/01 - 09/07</td><td>--</td><td>47.3</td><td>45.0</td><td class="spread">McCain +2.3</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">CNN</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>942 RV</td><td>48</td><td>48</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">USA Today/Gallup</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>LV</td><td>54</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">McCain +10</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Hotline/FD Tracking</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>924 RV</td><td>44</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Rasmussen Tracking</td><td>09/05 - 09/07</td><td>3000 LV</td><td>48</td><td>47</td><td class="spread">McCain +1</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Gallup Tracking</td><td>09/04 - 09/06</td><td>2765 RV</td><td>48</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">McCain +3</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">CBS News</td><td>09/01 - 09/03</td><td>734 RV</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td class="spread">Tie</td></tr></tbody></table>

Oh for heavens sake.
 

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