ml odds maker got it wrong june 27 2019

[yesyes]

between 10 -60 percent drops
not a great day for huge miscalculations
but here they are

had a few mishaps yesterday but blame myself for overseeing
a few angles anyway hope today to get back on track

doesn't appear to be huge discrepencies but

looks like he/she misjudged these tomorrow

delta 3/2 will go down
5/10 will go down

delware 4/5 should go down
belterra 8/8 should go down
cantebury 5/6 unsure but looks like he will
9/6 unsure but most likely


pleasonton 7/8 most likely to drop

good luck

 

[yesyes]

Sorry. Folks. Belterra race. 8/8. Was suppose to be 8/7
will have to start. Writing names for clarification. Apologies once again

 

[Gravy]

Im a bit confused here so bare with me here.So you are starting a thread The ML odds are off so what ever horse the line is off the horse players bet the horse down and the odds are what they when the race goes off so what I'm I missing here as the line makers at the track has screwed up making lines for races for as long as I have been going to the track so unless you are getting your odds locked in Im stuck whatever the horse goes off when the race starts so what is the purpose here ? Thanks in advance

 

[yesyes]

Hi. Gravy.

I apreciate. Your. Question. I am not available at the current moment. But. I will address your
concerns, when I get home tonight.

Thanks. Yesyes

 

[yesyes]

Hello gravy


i hope to address your question plus all the others who have shown interest


1 this is not a selection or tipping service i repeat these horses are not
horses that i like or that i want you to get an early price with the bookies for
an advantage for the sake of betting them


2 These specialty plays are horses that i call " discrepancy" or "track take horses "
that more often than not will be underlayed by a big percentage in comparison to what
the morning line odds maker has them listed at .


3 so the question gravy has was so what is the purpose ???


well here is the best answer i have for u . this system was developed because i use to hang around a bunch of players
and as we all would look into pick 3s or the later races for the day most of my friends would say oh look at this guy in the 6th at laurel
15-1 in the morning line and i would say youre lucky if u get 6-5 on him. Anyway i did this for over a year and they started saying fuck
you should be the ml oddsmaker. so sooner than later they were all over me everyday looking for value races . you see (no offence) to anyone out there
but the linemakers do such a poor job in making them and for the life of me i cant understand it it is a major part of their job so what gives ??
that you have to do 2 jobs as a handicapper one to come up with plays and the other to come up with how the toteboard will look like after the off
which should'nt be happening . Wouldn't you love to see a proper line for all the races at any given track to this day it doesn't exist . I know why but it is no excuse
players deserve better.


anyway spoiler alert i am not right all the time it is impossible to many variables
but 90 percent of the time is a great percentage to work with so




I do my best to find these races in where these
plays are going to take a significant part of the track take or become favourites that are not seen by the
ml odds track maker for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage over the public


you see these plays are systematic plays based on certain simulations that i have put
together over years of bad beats. i kept asking myself why do these guys continuosly keep
getting money over the other guys when the other horses in the same race look just as good or better.
remember because they are systematic they are not insider plays at all according to my records. that is not
to say that once in a while they don't become insider plays but form my angles i don't see it that way


so the big question becomes how do i use this information


well i was sick and tired of going through a racing form the night before and coming up with my favourite six or seven plays
for the next day based on what i was seeing in the morning line. only to find out the next day that all my horses were being
underlays and i would wind up not betting at all. which led me to do an in depth search of why i was always coming up with these
plays and that is how the system got developed. it took me years to get to a place where i was a serious player and a winning one . I had to unlearn
everything i was taught and developed new ways of attacking the races


which led me to this idea . You see i believe we as horseplayers are up against it all the time. the organizations don help matters at at all
and they don't give enough back to the people that build their fortunes. don't even get me started on why we pay for any pps at all of any kind .


so how do you gain an advantage
this is just advice because everyone is so different but here goes


1 once you know that this is a systematic play and not an insider play start using the board to see if u can find clues or where the live horse might be
2 if u studied the night before and you come up with your own plays thinking they are value and you check the rx forum and see that i have listed some of those plays
you can revisit your decision based on my history( that is not to say you shouldn't bet it because you might have information from the inside that lets you know that the horse is ready for
a big one ** but only if your record outweighs mine
3 you can feel confident if you have come up with a best bet selection within the same race and you know my selection will take money it will give you confidence even if your not around
to place the bet because your price will hold
4 you can download all the races i have listed for the day and go through your own handicapping process to see if you can spot the real overlay knowing that my plays will more often than not be bet


these are just some of the ways i can tell u that i have it down to a science and if one works hard enough he will find the edge


now this is not for u if u just want recreational plays that is not my intention but please go ahead if it works
my goal is to help the horseplayer who wants to grow and hopefully create some kind of income through the passion we all love


the best part here is that i will do this for a month to see if there is an interest from different players
and the results won't be affected because most people will think that i am a loonie toone
but hopefully that will change after a month of plays so that is why i will have to stop posting
to protect the real players


anyway like i said hopefully some of you will gain from this experience and if you have any questions or
you want to know sometimes about a price on a horse that u are interested in for the next day
send me a private and i will do my best to get back to you wihtin th 24 hours and help you out


also if this not for you no worries we are all different it is just my way of helping the player who really wants success


anywyay gravy i hope this answers your question all the best

 

[HossSense]

Post an actual play in the races you single out! Otherwise this is smoke and mirrors for me, aka BS.

 

[koidog]

Good post and explanation. Lots of good cappers here, I’m not but that’s why I stop in. Don’t follow anyone blindly here but I have included a horse or two on occasion based on others opinions. I’d guess in your case If the horse doesn’t drop then maybe that means a horse you’d play.

 

[yesyes]

hossSense

the reason that i don't post actual play in the race is that i don't want to taint the horseplayers opinion on any particular race
that is the job of a horseplayer. Reread part 1. IF you believe it to be bs and you feel you get nothing from it , then maybe just ignore my
threads . I understand this is not for everyone . just trying to help not here to misguide or mislead anyone

 

[yesyes]

koidog

no not at all it is the reverse if the horse in question does not drop according to its actual odds then it is most likely not well.
remember all the signs are pointing to it going down in price so when it doesn't them most likely not always but most likely it is
not set up to run its best race , again these are not selections or picks only a way of the horseplayer trying to get an advantage on
the race by knowing that a particular horse that i list will bet bet down. thanks

 

[Gravy]

yesyes,Thanks for the explanation on your system and I can see where you are coming from but I have my own ways of capping and have done well with them maybe one day I would like to see you in action doing this with a "live horse".I am not knocking you everybody has there ways of betting horses and people who know me on here I dont do that.Just watch out for the boom booms on here and you should be fine.Good luck to you and will be watching to see how you do.


PS I want to clear something with you as I will use what you posted for an example

delta 3/2 will go down
5/10 will go down


So this means Delta Race 3 #2 horse will be bet down ?

race 5 #10 will be bet down ?

 

[yesyes]

hey gravy


yes the boom booms everyone has an opinion

no worries appreciate it

on your ps yes it means that all the horses that i list will be bet down by a good margin mostly between 10 -60 percent of the morning line

that is the whole point of the exercise to try and spot a live play within the race i list due to the fact that the horse that i am listing will be bet down due

to the system . you know when you are watching the toteboard and you see a 15-1 with 0 minutes to post he is 5-2 and you wonder wow that is alot of
money coming in is it a hidden live play or is it just algorithims play. well with my betdown horses you can rest assured that it is not inside money, it is a numerical system play based on years of studying the mind of the horseplayer and what he will do most of the time when it comes to evaluating a race

I have had clients for years following me and the reason i don't post selections is because of the law of diminishing returns

if everyone knows you are successful they will jump on your selections because naturally everyone wants to win so you lose your edge .

its not because i don't want to help. that is why i put a price on my prime bets

i am a true horseplayer and i will tell you that i have had losing streaks up to 80 losses in a row at times , that is not something most people admit
but that is because most players are living in a delusional world . I have found the players who want everything catered to them are the ones who will always
lose. you have to work extremely hard for that edge .

I will get involved here and there and especially when i know my odds won't be affected will layout simulations for all to see

but for now just want to build credibility so then people on the forum know that they are dealing with an honest player

anyway thanks again and keep watching

if u ever want on opinion on a race you are confused with in terms of odds send me a message and i will help

i will put up a post on the do's and don'ts of what this system is because so many people are still confused ???


thanks gravy