Michigan State @ Oregon (Sept. 6)

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There are some interesting early season intersectional games but for some reason this one intrigues me. Mainly because it will feature two top rated teams with polar opposite styles. One team will play fast break basketball while the other will play rugged defense and ground and pound to control the clock.

Oregon will and should be favored playing at home but I'm thinking this will be a toughass ballgame. Any thoughts on this early matchup? Welcome any comments.....................
 

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anyone have the GN line on this ? I would take the DD points if offered...
 

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MSU rebuilding their O-line..very thin on experience. Quite a few good key players lost on D as well due to graduation.

Will take Oregon later likely after the # drops a bit.
 

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Right now, without knowing what's going to happen to rosters the rest of the offseason, I'm going to play Oregon in this one because of what they have coming back and because its in Eugene. Sparty only has 4 defensive starters returning (2-1-1). The D Line does not concern me as much as the LBs and DBs lost. Their DBs were all lock down types and Mariotta can throw the ball with the best of QB's. The other thing is the fact that they get Sparty early. If this was November, I might look the other way because the MSU defense would have gotten more snaps and more experience. I would like to see this number get down below 10 though
 

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10 would satisfy me. I'd even lay the hook @ 10½. 13 might be pushing it a little but with a novice defense many in their first road start, dealing with the raucous Autzen Stadium noise with fans yelling out loud and picking (by name) on every mistake a defender makes from 25 feet away seems like too much for a pack of new players to take. If Oregon goes up by 2 TD's it's all over with. Playing an uphill game at Autzen isn't something very easy to do.
 

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I should also point out that this game will be Don Pellum's (Oregon's successor to their long time DC Nick Alliotti) first test. Will he bring out the guns and play an aggressive style of defense (that I love watching) or will he play the typical bend but don't break defense that distinguished Alliotti's style that many like me despised watching? (but rarely complained about)
 

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Recently Oregon's ATS record at home has not matched the hype of Autzen.. against the better teams its even worse..MSU isn't the only team playing here that has to replace starters....
 

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Recently Oregon's ATS record at home has not matched the hype of Autzen.. against the better teams its even worse..MSU isn't the only team playing here that has to replace starters....

Like your observation Red Eye. Especially considering both teams are needing to replace key starters. Men, I'm thinking this game is going to be a war...by that I mean both teams will play their ass off...why I love this matchup.
 

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You've also got an unproven coach (so far) against a seasoned proven coach who has got a BCS Bowl win under his belt and a lot of momentum. And your giving him double digits on the spread. No thanks.. You would be surprised what a BCS win can do for a team's overall confidence. Even the ones who have lost half of their starters. Dantonio still coaches great defense year after year, no matter who he has coming back. And they've got the whole summer to prep for that Oregon offense.
 

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Sooners makes some great points regarding coaching...and college football is all about coaching quality athletics in my opinion. Got to have some good players but better coaches will usually do a good job with time to prepare against other good athletes.

Call me dumbass, but I love this early matchup...great for college football and all of us here at theRX. Watch the line my friends...watch the line moves because a half point could be money in this one.
 

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I will concede that MSU hung in there and finally beat Stanford which is something that the Ducks haven't done in 2 years. I would feel a lot better about laying the DDs (considering the venue) if I could see how much improvement can be expected from both upgraded lines (both O and D) going for the Ducks, the idea being that Oregon's speed has presumably been maintained while packing on an extra 20-25 lbs per lineman, or so it will be. One thing that you can count on is that Helfrich has been recruiting speed at every position on the field.

The Ducks maintain a lead in the Pac in the speed department with ASU and USC also finishing in the money and Mora also emphasizing team speed but maybe with an honorable mention at this time. Stanford you can kiss off that way other than a few bright spots in their defense, but you all know about Shaw's ground and pound game in the trenches and the type of OL he brings to the table... pretty close to an even contest in the Rose Bowl minus a QB that could throw the ball

Stanford had no trouble bottling up Mariota with a bum knee in a brace, but that won't be the case Sept. 6. This leads me to conclude that the Duck's team speed is perhaps their biggest advantage, especially with a QB that can run for 100 yards when he is healthy. Furthermore, you have to at least give the Duck's an edge on the offensive LOS with all 5 starters returning vs. just 2 (?) returning DLs on the other side. They are also deep and talented in the TE department leading me to think that all in all Mariota will find himself well protected with plenty of options. John Mundt and Pharoh Brown lead the TE position group and something tells me that John Mundt may end up being the Duck's possession receiver if and when the situation arises... either that or it will often turn out to be Marcus "football" (sorry that wasn't very good) or one of Oregon's RBs with world class speed flying through a hole you could drive a bus through after one of their TEs clears out any incidental traffic. Anything Mariota might do to get past Sparty's first line of defense could easily turn into big yardage. How are the Spartans set for speed? The big question is will MSU's young defense be able to stop Oregon's 1 minute 45 second 6-play TD drives consistently enough to make a game of it?
 

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anyone have the GN line on this ? I would take the DD points if offered...

trying to embed the sheet but not working but just go here to download.... http://www.scribd.com/doc/229551648/Golden-Nugget-2014-college-football-games-of-the-year

anyway, this game is not on there

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embedding won't work so use that link...

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Opened at 15 Sunday at LVH (now Westgate Resorts) in Vegas on their GOY lines.
 

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Kstate line vs Auburn from +13 to +8 .....

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Kstate line vs Auburn from +13 to +8 .....

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I can see a lot of scoring in that game. As a rule, Snyder's teams are usually much better in October than they are in September. But with having a veteran QB and skill position players this season, they should be pretty good on offense right out of the gate. The defense is always the question with the Cats. They have JC talent starting at all 3 levels of the defense. It will all depend how quickly they adjust to D-1 ball.
 

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The line has moved to 15 the past week at Westgate....This is an all-time first....according to some 2015 mock drafts, MSU will have 3 defensive players taken in the first 30-35 picks....Never seen a team with a number of prime time players on D getting so many points.

Ore may cover but one will never go broke taking good Ds that are DDD's(double digit dogs) Rock on!
 

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