Michael Berg: "My son died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld."

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Berg Died for Bush, Rumsfeld 'Sins' - Father

By Jon Hurdle

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - The father of Nick Berg, the American beheaded in Iraq, directly blamed President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Thursday for his son's death.



"My son died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld. This administration did this," Berg said in an interview with radio station KYW-AM two days after a video showing the execution of his son was shown on an Islamist Web site.

In the interview from outside his home in West Chester, Pennsylvania, a seething Michael Berg also said his 26-year-old son, a civilian contractor, probably would have felt positive, even about his executioners, until the last minute.

"I am sure that he only saw the good in his captors until the last second of his life," Berg said. "They did not know what they were doing. They killed their best friend."

Asked to respond to Berg's comments about the president, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The Berg family is going through a very difficult period and they remain in our thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee to challenge Bush in the November election, said he had spoken to Michael Berg to express sympathy. "I know as a father how I would feel if it were one of my daughters or stepsons. I think every American is pained by what is going on."

Asked if Bush had also called Nicholas Berg's family, McClellan said he had not but pointed to the president's public expressions of condolence to the family.

Michael Berg's criticism came amid finger-pointing between Berg's family, U.S. military officials and Iraqi police over the young businessman's imprisonment before his execution.

Berg rejected U.S. government claims that his son had never been held by American authorities in Iraq. The Iraqi police chief in the city of Mosul has also contradicted statements by the U.S.-led coalition concerning the younger Berg's detention.

'FBI CAME TO MY HOUSE'

"I have a written statement from the State Department in Baghdad ... saying that my son was being held by the military," Berg said. "I can also assure you that the FBI came to my house on March 31 and told me that the FBI had him in Mosul in an Iraqi prison."

CBS reported on Thursday that Berg was questioned by FBI agents who discovered he had been interviewed before because a computer password he used in college had turned up in the possession of accused Sept. 11 conspirator Zaccarias Moussaoui.

It said the FBI had concluded there was nothing sinister in that. The FBI had no comment on the report.

Dan Senor, spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority, said this week that Nick Berg was arrested in Mosul by Iraqi police on March 24 and released on April 6 and was visited by the FBI three times during his detention.

Brig.-Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, said American military police had seen Berg during his detention to make sure he was being fed and treated properly.

Berg returned to Baghdad from Mosul in April and went missing on April 9, during a chaotic period when dozens of foreigners were snatched by guerrillas west of the capital.

His body was discovered by a road near Baghdad and the video of his decapitation was posted on the Internet.



Berg had been in Baghdad from late December to Feb. 1 and returned to Iraq in March. He did not find work and planned to return home at the end of March, according to his parents.

Berg's communications to his parents stopped on March 24 and he told them later he was jailed by Iraqi officials after being picked up at a checkpoint in Mosul.

On April 5, the Bergs filed a lawsuit against the U.S. government, naming Rumsfeld and alleging their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military in Iraq. The next day, he was released. (additional reporting by Maher al-Thanoon and Caren Bohan)
 

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I don't know about anyone else's opinion, but I think that Berg's parents shouldn't have allowed their son to go to Iraq (lion's den)in the first place.

Bush and Rumesfeld are not to blame for this terrible tragedy. Who would go or who would allow their child to go voluntarily without a company, without a military outfit, and just out of plain free will into a war zone?

Just like John Walker and his little problem with the Taliban.

Nevertheless, my sincerest sympathies go to the Berg family.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex the Great:
I don't know about anyone else's opinion, but I think that Berg's parents shouldn't have allowed their son to go to Iraq (lion's den)in the first place.

Bush and Rumesfeld are not to blame for this terrible tragedy. Who would go or who would allow their child to go voluntarily without a company, without a military outfit, and just out of plain free will into a war zone?

Just like John Walker and his little problem with the Taliban.

Nevertheless, my sincerest sympathies go to the Berg family.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pretty much agree. Don't know if you can directly blame Bush and Rummy for this.

Wandering around Iraq these days isn't exactly a good idea. But it wasn't a good idea 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago.

I think Berg wanted to help people, and he liked the adventure, and I think he was always putting himself in some sort of danger.

"He also made several trips to Third World countries -- at one point teaching villagers in Ghana how to make bricks."

With all of his trips, it was only a matter of time before he ran into serious trouble. It sucks, but Americans are targets during international travel. They're targets for pickpockets, they're targets for terrorists, etc.
 

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Coupla things.

The guy was 26; not really in mom and dad's preview where he went in life.

Also, I don't agree that it is directly George Bush or Donald Rumsfeld's fault that Berg was murdered. A great many layers of cause and effect had to be laid on top of Bush et al.'s mistakes before Nick Berg was murdered.

I just thought I'd see how long it would take one of the troll dolls in this forum to come in screaming about how Michael Berg is a liberal airhead traitor who should go back to Russia if he doesn't like it, because we don't need him here making America a target for joint al-Qaeda-Aztlan-Wal-Mart terrorist initiatives as have clearly been in the works since the Clinton administration, God bless George W. for giving us eight years off from the horror of that conspiracy.

And so forth.


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I know I will catch a lot of hell for this but I think Berg's death is a metaphor for our whole involvement in Iraq. Both were motivated by overly optimistic belief that we could bring progress to that region of the world. The Bush Administration thought that we could bring democracy to the Middle East by invading Iraq - not sure what facts they base this belief in.

I have more admiration for Berg than Bush - he was willing to put himself in harm's way to back up his belief that he could help by improving their communications infrastructure.

My sympathies go out to his family and to all the families of the soldiers who have been either killed or wounded in this war - it didn't have to be this way.
 
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I felt bad for this guys family until his family started talking. Maybe your son shouldn't have been wandering around Iraq ,alone, looking to drum up business. Maybe he shouldv'e taken the flight home offered to him. Maybe the family should blame the people who killed him and not use your own sons death to try to make your own little political point that no one cares about.
 

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True enough, I don't know what this guy was thinking when he went to Iraq. The father is probably blaming Bush for going to War in Iraq causing his son to have good intentions to go to Iraq.

Cause and effect. If you have unsafe sex with a complete stranger then there exists a posibility that you may either get the person pregnant or potentially get an STD.

Same goes for a civilian going to Iraq looking for work or out of good intentions.
 

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[QUOTE"My son died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld. This administration did this,"] [/QUOTE]

Ultimately if not directly the reason the young man is dead. Sure it was his choice to be in harms way, but if not for the incrdible lunacy of the US government there would be no body bags coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan every day.


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This young man shouldn't have been over there. He blew off several warnings and omens that suggested he get the hell out of there.

He liked the adventure and enjoyed being in harms way, frequently going to third world hot-spots and doing work that fit in with his liberal politics. People like Mr. Berg think they're blazing a trail, but never bother to look down at their feet to notice that they're on a well-worn path.

While I contend that he shouldn't have been there, I still mourn what happened.
 

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I am just glad that his family is not jumping on the 'let's get those fückers' bandwagon as I'd expected. Judging by this and another board that I frequent, it was appearing as though Berg's execution was beng used as justification for Abu Ghraib, the war in general, and hatred toward Arabs.

However, like all of us, I can't imagine why in the world he went there on his own. The guy was either a saint, or a major-league drama-queen.
 

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The old man Berg is a memeber of an anti war movement - FOX news. He's just another older babyboomer that spent his youthful years during the days of vietnam. He probably feels a lot like a lot of the liberal posters on this forum, unfortunately in that he feels his youth was misspent and blames the republicans. The days the older baby boomers pass away, is the day we have 67 conservative senators in the Senate.
 

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Like I have previously stated, he shouldn't have supported his son going to Iraq in the first place.

This is the same story like John Walker, coming from former hippie parents they allowed and supported their son to go to Arab country hotspots. Now look at their son, a former Taliban.
 

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Kinda reminds me of a certain draft dodger from the Viet Nam war who decided he was going to be a do-gooder and decided to send other people's sons to a foreign country to fight for their freedom so now we have American soldiers and Marines dying for a people that don't even want us there. Pretty naive, huh?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr NJ Sports:
Had he gone to Iraq before the US military went over there would he have been any safer?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not much. Of all the places in the world to be, how did he pick that one?
 

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Here's something from Jonah Goldberg about Berg:


I'm begining to get the feeling -- I suspect like a lot of people -- that Nick Berg may have had some similarities to such folks as Rachel Corrie or Lori Berenson .

The connection to Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, is too coincidental. They went to the University of Oklahoma together and the FBI had investigated Berg because Moussaoui had used his email account. Berg carried around anti-Semitic pamphlets. Berg was apparently something of a leftwing peacenik and his parents apparently belong to ANSWER. Travelling around Iraq alone the way he did is just odd. See the Philly Inquirer's story for more.

Then there's Berg's dad who's anger is understandable, but whose anger at America is getting more than a bit odd. The soundbite I find most troubling is the one where he says how al Qaeda was dumb for killing him because he was their, and Iraq's, best friend.

Obviously, I have no idea what really happened out there, but I'm getting this sneaking suspicion that Berg was suffering from a taste of radical chic in his desire to go to Iraq, travel to all the hotspots alone and help out over there. I doubt he was a would-be terrorist or anything like that. But it wouldn't surprise me if his murderers had first taken him in not as a hostage but as a dupe of some kind. I hope I'm wrong. But even if I'm not, in a way this makes his murder all the more gruesome. Murdering a do-gooder because he's easier to catch is even more repugnant.
 

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I think the strangest thing, in addition to what Shotgun points out, is that his family claims to have gone to court to have him released from custody, but now the gov't is saying he never was in custody. It's possible that he lied to his family of his whereabouts, but then it's also possible that he was in the Guatanamo outfit because he had been in custody after all. The whole thing is pretty strange if you ask me.
 
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mudbone<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Kinda reminds me of a certain draft dodger from the Viet Nam war who decided he was going to be a do-gooder and decided to send other people's sons to a foreign country to fight for their freedom so now we have American soldiers and Marines dying for a people that don't even want us there. Pretty naive, huh? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We would have some military if the only people allowed to fight every four years was the children of the president.
Chelsea Clinton and the Bush Daughters vs the world?
 

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mudbone summarizes:

"so now we have American soldiers and Marines dying for a people that don't even want us there. Pretty naive, huh?"

The terrorists don't want us there that is true. Your generalization of ' a people' is actually a minority of the people - just a little misleading. On a scale of 1-10 with ten being the best liberal spin possible, I'd give that a 7.

We are not dying for the terroists, were dying because of the terrorists, for the people of the middle east. I wish we would get a bit more out of our tax dollar for those expensive jets we fly.
 

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