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Media Mum on Dean's 'KKK' Fundraiser

There's little doubt that if Howard Dean were a Republican, he'd be announcing his withdrawal from the presidential race this week, as details from a recent Dean rally - so ripe with racism it would make a Ku Klux Klansman blush - have begun seeping into print.

Since Dean is Democrat, however, at least one prominent media columnist is saying it's no big deal that the entertainment for the ex-Vermont Governor's Dec. 8 event included "N"-word jokes, imitations of Condoleezza Rice in an Amos n' Andy accent and references to the President of the United States as a "piece of living, breathing s - - t."

Credit for breaking the media embargo on Howard Dean's KKK-style Manhattan fundraiser goes to the New York Post's Deborah Orin, who first noted the "N"-word references last week, then fleshed out the details in a Post op-ed piece yesterday. [Why an op-ed, when this story belongs on the front page? But that's another matter.]

The details of what passed for entertainment at the Dean rally are as ugly as they come. Here's a few of the lowlights, according to Orin:

"Comedian David Cross used the N-word for blacks in a disjointed 'joke' apparently based on the premise that it's fine for a pro-Dean comic to use racial epithets as long as the goal is to claim Republicans are racists. . . .

"Sandra Bernhard insulted Condoleezza Rice in racial terms with a 'Yes Massa' accent at another Dean fundraiser the same night. . .

"Dean rival Joe Lieberman got ridiculed for being unable to campaign on Jewish holidays because he's Orthodox. . . .

"[Vice President Dick] Cheney's daughter Mary, who is gay, was called 'a big lezzie.'. . .

"Comic Judy Gold dissed President Bush as 'this piece of living, breathing s---' and Janeane Garofalo ridiculed the Medicare prescription-drug bill that Bush had just signed as the 'you can go f--- yourself, Grandma' bill.'"

As the New York-style Klan rally continued, the Democratic frontrunner was said to be "fuming" backstage.

But Dean did nothing to interrupt the proceedings, and certainly hasn't returned any of the campaign cash he collected from the folks who found the anti-black humor so amusing.

Neither has Dean issued a public apology, or pledged that those "comedians" who made racially offensive statements will be barred from all future Dean events.

When asked about the outrageous comments delivered at an event held in his name, the Vermont Democrat said only that some of the language was "wrong," then added meekly, "I don't have much tolerance for ethnic humor."

So why hasn't the press jumped ugly with Dean? Maybe it's because they don't find the racist rants delivered in his honor any more offensive than he does.

Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz offered a clue into the media's take on the racist rally, dismissing the episode in his Wednesday column by joking, "I, for one, am shocked at comedians using bad language."

GOP Congressman Peter King was less forgiving, telling Orin, "It's disgraceful. It's like an Upper West Side Manhattan left-wing Ku Klux Klan mentality. If some Southern redneck talked like this about a liberal, everyone would denounce it. But because it's Upper West Side humor, somehow it's supposed to be chic."
 

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I'm no Dean supporter but I can see how come of these things may have been taken out of context. Plus, these are comedians saying this after all, and not Dean himself. But believe me, anything to harm Dean right now I'm all for...before he further harms the Dem Party.

I'll say it again though, the pundits are not thinking deep about the primaries and all too afraid to say that Dean might not win. And he won't. Bush is going to be sorely disappointed when he learns he will be facing General Clark and not Governor Dean.
 

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The clear double-standard lives on.

What do you expect when one of your party's leaders is a former Klansman.
 

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Like Republicans don't have double standards? Tell me ole Strom Thurmond wasn't getting more than a piiece of pie from the 16 year old maid
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Imagine that, Republican who advocates separation of races impregnates black underage maid and lets her raise the kid alone...
 

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Mudbone,

If you actually knew as much as you think you do, you would know that Thurmond was a Democrat when he fathered the bi-racial child in 1925 and was a member of the Democrat Party until 1964. Betcha didn't know that.

It amazes the ignorance of many of the people that could come to this forum and try to act like intellectuals.

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You may not have understood what a double standard is. It means that if a Republican acted in the way Dean did, and if it was a fund raiser for a Republican candidate, we would be hearing about this event non stop for several weeks, most likely ending in that candidate's resignation. The fact that we have bearly heard about this is what I was referring to as a double standard.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Floyd Gondolli:
Mudbone,

If you actually knew as much as you think you do, you would know that Thurmond was a Democrat when he fathered the bi-racial child in 1925 and was a member of the Democrat Party until 1964. Betcha didn't know that.

It amazes the ignorance of many of the people that could come to this forum and try to act like intellectuals.

"Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." - The Dude, 1998<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think the point is that he switched to the Republican party when he came to the realization that his hypocrisy and disdain for civil rights didn't fit with being a Democrat. And WHILE Republican, he opposed cigil rightsa and supported segregation as his biracial daughter now says he told her "because that's what his supporters wanted to hear".
 

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Floyd,

He left the Democratic party when it strongly supported Civil Rights circa 1960s and crossed over to Republican party where he felt more comfortable opposing civil rights, among other things.

I'm acting like an intellectual cause I'm arguing with you? LOL.
 

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You keep digging yourself deeper in a hole.

Read your history. If it was not for the support of northern and western republicans, Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights reforms would have NEVER passed given the strong opposition to their passage by Southern DEMOCRATS.

Al Gore's father voted against most civil rights legislation in the 60's.

Tell me I'm wrong.

You appear to be a classic example of outcome based education.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Igetp2s:
The clear double-standard lives on.

What do you expect when one of your party's leaders is a former Klansman.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who?

As for Dean, I'll take some solace that he was at least backstage pissed off, rather than front and centre laughing. I'm really surprised this didn't make the news ... it certainly should have. But the comment about Bush being a piece of shit, well, that's just funny.
 

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That's actually Robert Byrd (D) of West Virginia who was a high ranking KKK member for many years. He is the senior member of the Democrat Party's Senate Delegation.

ps. Paul Byrd is actually an MLB pitcher who has played for the Royals and Phillies.

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[This message was edited by Floyd Gondolli on December 17, 2003 at 12:17 PM.]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Floyd Gondolli:
You keep digging yourself deeper in a hole.

Read your history. If it was not for the support of northern and western republicans, Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights reforms would have NEVER passed given the strong opposition to their passage by Southern DEMOCRATS.

Al Gore's father voted against most civil rights legislation in the 60's.

Tell me I'm wrong.

You appear to be a classic example of outcome based education.

"Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." - The Dude, 1998<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Floyd, Thurmond left the Dem Party because, on balance, it supported the Civil Rights legislation while, on balance, the Republican Party did not. As a result, Thurmon's views were more aligned with the Republican Party.

Tell me I'm wrong.
 

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You are wrong.

Thurmond left to protest Johnson's civil rights programs and that a thief and idiot like Johnson had co-opted the Democrat party. You notice he didn't leave when JFK or Truman were President. Truman and JFK politically track far more like current Republicans than Democrats.

You are mischaracterizing the civil rights dispute as a Republican vs. Democrat struggle when in fact is was a South vs. everyone else struggle. Thurmond, who was a segregationist, did not leave the Democrat party for the Republican party because the Republican Party was segregationist. The Republican Party was not, and is not segregationist.

If you are really from Mississippi then you either know this already or are woefully ignorant.

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[This message was edited by Floyd Gondolli on December 17, 2003 at 12:27 PM.]
 

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For the record, I use and laugh at racial jokes all the time. It doesn't bother me and it shouldn't bother anyone else. If your self-esteem is truly that low, you may as well kill yourself because the world is not a nice place. That being said, if you're going to be mad at derogatory statements being made it should be across the board instead of selective IMO.
 

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When did I say I was from Mississippi? I'm not.

Anyway, Thurmond was a southerner whether he was a Democrat or a Republican. Didn't matter. You can all it South vs. everyone else, but the South was overwhlmingly Republican and thus on balance most Republicans nationally were against it and most Dems were for it.

And JFK and Truman would be Democrats today. No question about it.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Floyd Gondolli:
That's actually Robert Byrd (D) of West Virginia who was a high ranking KKK member for many years. He is the senior member of the Democrat Party's Senate Delegation.

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He's still in politics?? How does a guy like that get elected? What an absolute disgrace.
 

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Yo Floyd,

One of main reasons Strom left Democratic Party is because they supported Civil Rights and he opposed period. You can insult me all day long but does not change that fact.

So, you ain't buying it, no problem. I can point out a ton of other Republican hypocrites, no problem. Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bennett, Trent Lott, where you want me to start my man?
 

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Floyd, your right. I couldnt remember his first name, thought I heard the name Paul Byrd somewhere
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