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McCain Outperforming Bush in Ohio Bellweathers?

I continue to hear from my source on the ground in Ohio, who is seeing results for McCain that are surprisingly good. He puts it, "in a key bellweather section of Ohio, McCain continues to show internals that are exceeding the national pollsters’ results. This portends a potentially larger McCain victory in Ohio than Bush had in 2004.”

As for those national pollsters, note that Fox News/Rasmussen puts McCain up 2, NBC/Mason-Dixon puts McCain up 1 and Rasmussen had it a tie last week. My guy on the ground thinks this might mean that the internal polling is a leading indicator, and he's noting that if McCain does as well among the key demographics in neighboring Pennsylvania as he is in Ohio, then the Democrats ought to be sweating about that state.
That's far from a given, of course; Pennsylvania is a bluer state than Ohio. I don't know that McCain will win Pennsylvania, but it isn't like he hasn't been given enough material - "spread the wealth around", "no coal plants", Murtha alternately calling his constituents "racists" and "rednecks," the bitter small-town clinger comment, etc.

I can hear it now - "Jim, Jim, what about the Suffolk Poll showing McCain losing Ohio by 9?" Well, if the Ohio electorate on Nov. 4 really does turn out to be 54 percent women and 46 percent men, and 45 percent Democrat and 31 percent Republican, then that may very well be the result. But I would be curious about which debilitating virus is attacking those with Y chromosomes in that state. (Having said that, the 2004 exit poll put the gender split at 53-47 in favor of women.)





Shocking.. jives with Obama internals that show just a 2 point lead in Pennsylvania.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/15/05041/703/752/630799


There are going to be some disappointed liberals on here in two weeks.
 

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Just got some McCain +187 for Ohio

I think he holds this state
 

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How difficult is it to deposit on there from the US?
 

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Shocking.. jives with Obama internals that show just a 2 point lead in Pennsylvania.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/15/05041/703/752/630799


There are going to be some disappointed liberals on here in two weeks.

As for this part, there isn't just one internal poll. A lot of times campaigns weight various ones for different demographics to get an idea of what can happen if (for instance) they don't turn out philly as much as they should.

Not sure who Grant Olin is but very few people see the internals of poll in a campaign. Even if he's the regional director of Scranton (which makes it sound like he is), I'd guess at best he just gets fed numbers. A lot of times the numbers fed are for specific reasons (to make people non complacent, etc).

This seems to have some life on the conservative blogs. Could see closing but I doubt it's a 2 pt race right now.
 

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There's some ugly spreads on there.. but New Hampshire +350 I like.. remember they overpolled Obama by 10 points up there in the Primary and has been McCain's bread and butter in the primary.

I'm on through e-check!, Got some Ohio +187 and West Virginia -139 (are they kidding?).
 

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There's some ugly spreads on there.. but New Hampshire +350 I like.. remember they overpolled Obama by 10 points up there in the Primary and has been McCain's bread and butter in the primary.

I'm on through e-check!, Got some Ohio +187 and West Virginia -139 (are they kidding?).


Yeah I took the same, limits suck though

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I don't like that NH....McCain isn't putting anymore money into the state it is being reported.
 

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Rasmussen hot off the presses...

Tuesday, October 21, 2008

The presidential race in West Virginia continues to hold steady as John McCain leads Barack Obama 52% to 43%, according the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey.



McCain -139 in West Virginia is absurdity. You'll never get a line more out of whack than that. The $100 limit frustrates me.
 

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Why is that internal polling numbers story just getting legs on conservative blogs now?

That dailykos link is a week old.
 

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WVA -139 is solid. Ohio and Mizzou +187 are pretty much right in line with the trading markets.

But I will say if you like McCain you are better of voting the states individually rather than to win. He has to win ALL of those tossups to even be in the picture. He has to win Ohio and Missouri and West Virginia, and even if he does he can still lose overall very easily.

Obama also a large favorite in Florida and Virginia, both of which McCain must win. Not to mention McCain has to win Colorado, where he is a huge underdog.
 

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I already had money in SIA so it was easier, are you playing a lot of states D2?

If so which ones.

I do think MO & OH are values at +187 and obviously WV -139 is too.

Indiana -120 both sides.........it's intriguing to go McCain there.

Not sure though.
 

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If you guys still like McCain in Ohio, you can grab it at +350 at Matchbook right now. I hit a little of it, could take more, but I'll let you guys have at it. VA also +350 but I think McCain has a better shot of holding Ohio.
 

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I smell left wing fear....:toast:

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I smell left wing fear....:toast:

dewey%20wins.jpg

:lolBIG:

McCain is a sizeable underdog (between +200 and +600) in Florida, Ohio, Virginia and Colorado and an underdog also in Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina (between +120 and +200). He essentially has to win all of 7 of those to even be in the conversation. Good luck with that underdog parlay.

With the oodles I have on Obama, I've decided that the best way to hedge at all is to nibble at good odds on McCain winning any of those states. If he just wins one of them I figure I could break even or ahead with hedge while still cashing Obama.
 

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If you guys still like McCain in Ohio, you can grab it at +350 at Matchbook right now. I hit a little of it, could take more, but I'll let you guys have at it. VA also +350 but I think McCain has a better shot of holding Ohio.


That $350 is nice...too bad I have no $ in matchbook.

It shouldn't be that high.
 

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That $350 is nice...too bad I have no $ in matchbook.

It shouldn't be that high.

What do you think of my strategy? I've got Obama large avg now around -130. Instead of selling off any, I'm nibbling McCain individual states when I see a good number like that Ohio +350, have some Fla +280, looking to nibble a little Virginia and Colorado at large odds, maybe some NC or MO also, possibly PA at huge odds. I figure McCain has to win basically all of those so if Obama loses I'll clean up at big odds on those states while still having a chance at winning a couple of those at big odds and still having Obama win. Sorta like a "middle".
 

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