Martin Luthers influence on Nazi Germany?

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Thoughts? I am actually SHOCKED about what he wrote about Jews. Why is it that not to many people know about this?
 

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It's because people simply eat up what's fed to them by the media without thinking for themselves. Sad but true.
 

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Just another white christian pissed at being stoopider than the joos.

Like Mugabe who's pissed at being stoopider than whitey.

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It's because people simply eat up what's fed to them by the media without thinking for themselves. Sad but true.
True...you never hear a word about this and Ijust found out myself. Im still shocked. I wonder what percenatge of people with the Luthern denomination actually know about this?
 

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Michael Berenbaum writes that Luther's reliance on the Bible as the sole source of Christian authority fed his later fury toward Jews over their rejection of Jesus as the messiah.<sup id="cite_ref-Berenbaum8_13-0" class="reference">[14]</sup> For Luther, salvation depended on the belief that Jesus was the son of God, a belief that adherents of Judaism do not share. Early in his life, Luther had argued that the Jews had been prevented from converting to Christianity by the proclamation of what he believed to be an impure gospel by the Catholic Church, and he believed they would respond favorably to the evangelical message if it were presented to them gently. He expressed concern for the poor conditions in which they were forced to live, and insisted that anyone denying that Jesus was born a Jew was committing heresy.<sup id="cite_ref-Berenbaum8_13-1" class="reference">[14]</sup> Luther's first known comment on the Jews is in a letter written to Reverend Spalatin in 1514:
<table style="border-style: none; margin: auto; border-collapse: collapse; background-color: transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td style="padding: 10px; color: rgb(178, 183, 242); font-size: 35px; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight: bold; text-align: left;" valign="top" width="20">“</td> <td style="padding: 4px 10px;" valign="top">Conversion of the Jews will be the work of God alone operating from within, and not of man working — or rather playing — from without. If these offences be taken away, worse will follow. For they are thus given over by the wrath of God to reprobation, that they may become incorrigible, as Ecclesiastes says, for every one who is incorrigible is rendered worse rather than better by correction. <sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference">[15]</sup></td> <td style="padding: 10px; color: rgb(178, 183, 242); font-size: 36px; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight: bold; text-align: right;" valign="bottom" width="20">”</td> </tr> </tbody></table> Graham Noble writes that Luther wanted to save Jews, in his own terms, not exterminate them, but beneath his apparent reasonableness toward them, there was a "biting intolerance," which produced "ever more furious demands for their conversion to his own brand of Christianity" (Noble, 1-2). When they failed to convert, he turned on them.<sup id="cite_ref-Michael1985_15-0" class="reference">[16]</sup>
In 1519 Luther challenged the doctrine Servitus Judaeorum ("Servitude of the Jews"), established in Corpus Juris Civilis by Justinian I in 529. He wrote: "Absurd theologians defend hatred for the Jews. ... What Jew would consent to enter our ranks when he sees the cruelty and enmity we wreak on them—that in our behavior towards them we less resemble Christians than beasts?" <sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference">[17]</sup>
In his commentary on the Magnificat, Luther is critical of the emphasis Judaism places on the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament. He states that they "undertook to keep the law by their own strength, and failed to learn from it their needy and cursed state." <sup id="cite_ref-17" class="reference">[18]</sup> Yet, he concludes, that God's grace will continue for Jews as Abraham's descendants for all time, since they may always become Christians. <sup id="cite_ref-18" class="reference">[19]</sup> "We ought...not to treat the Jews in so unkindly a spirit, for there are future Christians among them." <sup id="cite_ref-19" class="reference">[20]</sup>
In his 1523 essay That Jesus Christ Was Born a Jew, Luther condemned the inhuman treatment of the Jews and urged Christians to treat them kindly. Luther's fervent desire was that Jews would hear the Gospel proclaimed clearly and be moved to convert to Christianity. Thus he argued:
<table style="border-style: none; margin: auto; border-collapse: collapse; background-color: transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td style="padding: 10px; color: rgb(178, 183, 242); font-size: 35px; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight: bold; text-align: left;" valign="top" width="20">“</td> <td style="padding: 4px 10px;" valign="top">If I had been a Jew and had seen such dolts and blockheads govern and teach the Christian faith, I would sooner have become a hog than a Christian. They have dealt with the Jews as if they were dogs rather than human beings; they have done little else than deride them and seize their property. When they baptize them they show them nothing of Christian doctrine or life, but only subject them to popishness and monkery...If the apostles, who also were Jews, had dealt with us Gentiles as we Gentiles deal with the Jews, there would never have been a Christian among the Gentiles ... When we are inclined to boast of our position [as Christians] we should remember that we are but Gentiles, while the Jews are of the lineage of Christ. We are aliens and in-laws; they are blood relatives, cousins, and brothers of our Lord. Therefore, if one is to boast of flesh and blood the Jews are actually nearer to Christ than we are...If we really want to help them, we must be guided in our dealings with them not by papal law but by the law of Christian love. We must receive them cordially, and permit them to trade and work with us, that they may have occasion and opportunity to associate with us, hear our Christian teaching, and witness our Christian life. If some of them should prove stiff-necked, what of it? After all, we ourselves are not all good Christians either. <sup id="cite_ref-20" class="reference">[21]</sup></td> <td style="padding: 10px; color: rgb(178, 183, 242); font-size: 36px; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight: bold; text-align: right;" valign="bottom" width="20">”</td> </tr> </tbody></table> A few years later, in 1528, Luther reported an epic bout of diarrhea brought on by his consumption of Kosher food. In a letter to Melancthon, Luther suggested that the Jewish community had attempted to poison him. Luther further suggested that Kosher foods, which he believed to be disagreeable with the constitution of Gentiles, were eaten by the Jews (who, presumably, would not experience adverse effects from their consumption) as a show of superiority over the Gentiles and as a means of separating themselves from the mainstream German culture. He suggested that Kosher foods be banned from Christian nations.<sup class="noprint Template-Fact">[citation needed]</sup>
 

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Truth is Nazi's were moreso influenced by the Vatican then their arch enemy Martin Luther, leader of the reformation
 

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Truth is Nazi's were moreso influenced by the Vatican then their arch enemy Martin Luther, leader of the reformation


I disagree..Nazi leaders spoke of Luthers writings at the trials and used his beliefs as propaganda.
 

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I can tell you most if not all Lutherans have no problems with Jews today. Just like most Christian religions. Non issue. I would invite many posting in here to go to a protestant, or Catholic for that matter, church service, to find out for themselves.
 

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I can tell you most if not all Lutherans have no problems with Jews today. Just like most Christian religions. Non issue. I would invite many posting in here to go to a protestant, or Catholic for that matter, church service, to find out for themselves.


I agree but I also think the vast majority of Lutherns are ignorant to the thoughts and writings of the founder of the Luthern denomination.
 

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dude the vatican backed the Nazis financially and Nazis intelligence was based largely on the Jesuit order

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Just another white christian pissed at being stoopider than the joos.

Like Mugabe who's pissed at being stoopider than whitey.

d1g1t

Robert Mugabe always was, and still is a first class "horses ass".
 

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