lot of people in here had a rough night tonight

[gtc08]

just got back from downtown, checking some of these threads.

see a lot of dumb commentary, people not understanding the games.

from what i read, especially the atlanta game is people getting on the hawks for scoring points which is the dumbest thing i've seen, had to stop myself from laughing on that one.

other thread saying the league was fixed.

overall, i assume 18 year olds and under whining like usual.

i always say this though when people bring up the fix angle. are you that much of a degenerate that you bet on games that you have already determined are fixed? many of you do, which should be a glaring indicator that you need to get outside and do something or get help. if you think its fixed, you should have enough self control to get away from it. too many times i see someone say it's fixed and then bet and lose the next day again. i just scratch my head and think this is just a idiot degenerate.

i think some of you should re-evaluate why you are gambling and quit if you arn't doing it just for recreation. from the majority of threads i see, many of you are betting with money you shouldn't or can't afford to bet with.

and the league is fixed anyways(rolls eyes), so why keep betting?

 

[crzbrave]

why do you post on a gambling forum but don't gamble? Seems like you enjoy other peoples misery and knowing you're not the only depressed fucker or what?

 

[READYTOROLL]

haha bro gambling is an addiction, a brain disease for some of these guys... so whether or not they truly believe the league is fixed or not is irrelevant.. botom line is this gambling behavior is reinforced with a squirt of dopamine every time they win a bet. It's like their crackpipe bro!!!!! :money:

I agree tho people need to stop bitching... whatever happened to professionalism ya kno?? fucking amateurs!

 

[CHUGG]

I believe that you are referring to me CRZBRAVE. If you look through my threads, I have been bashed a few times in the past. I went for a few weeks without a losing day. I hit a little bump in the road and people were telling me that they lost and they bashed me. I believe one guy even said I lost him his college money. When I came back here from trying a career at touting people were mad at me for going and not telling them. A few people asked me and I had to tell them no. That hurt. I did this because of orders I was given to not talk about it by the higher ups. I respect this forum. A simple Google search a long time ago brought me here where I just sat silently and watched the best cappers like Ace Ace. I learned allot from him. He viewed the game just as I do. NUMBERS & %. I love numbers. Many years ago in the mortgage industry I was given the opportunity to manage a mortgage office after doing well as a loan officer. There was not enough business to go around and the office was struggling. I started looking at all of the loan turndowns and found ways to work the numbers to make the loan work. I would have the client pay something off to adjust their debt ratio or something crazy out of my head that benefited the client. I put a new marketing plan together which was to have my loan officers go and solicit other loan officers instead of actual borrowers for their turndowns and bring them to me so I can make the NUMBERS work (no I wasn’t responsible for the mortgage crises). It took off like crazy and then I talked the owners into allowing me to open branches for them around the country and make them profitable. They of course loved it but the real reason I made that happen was to be able to find ways to work with NUMBERS in different parts of the country to see what numbers and methods worked and did not. I became the national manager based on my love for numbers. Then I fire a girl and BAM! She has 7 men jump me in a parking lot and puts a hammer through my head. It all came to and end. I had a 47% chance of dying but pulled through. When you are that close to death you have a new outlook on life. You learn to smile and more importantly enjoy in other peoples time of joy. The RX started my interest in handicapping and for that I will always be loyal. Like last week when the site went down and someone at the other forum bashed Wilhelm I promptly stepped in and defended him. I would never wish a loss on anyone in this forum. Even if I did think like that I would go to other forums and wish them guys bad luck just because they do something stupid like GTC08 said (from what i read, especially the atlanta game is people getting on the hawks for scoring points which is the dumbest thing i've seen, had to stop myself from laughing on that one). But I don’t even do that. You ask why I don’t gamble on my picks? Because after that hammer went through my head I went from a comfortable 6 figure income to being almost bed ridden for almost 2 years with no income. I am now working on getting myself back on track as a loan officer but I am not 100% there yet. But next season I can’t wait. When I do my capping I have 2 full sheets of paper per game with scribble everywhere. It’s all what I love. NUMBERS. I use all the stats that are available to me and come up with my own formula’s and adjust them as the season goes on. Right now I don’t put money on it because I still am not back to where I was before my surgery financially. I need to get back there first. I am doing good but not there yet. I read the thread from GTC08 and it was like he was reading my mind. I see people chasing money and using too many personal opinions when it really is a lot about numbers & %. I see people say the game was fixed because they lost. I see a lot of crazy statements on here. But I never say anything because I don’t want to be the guy to piss in their cheerios. When I get bashed I rarely defend myself but this time I decided to. As far as the touting, people act like I didn’t do well or anything. This is not the case. I went 3-0 on my last night! I don’t gamble right now because of the aforementioned and I do it because most believe that gambling is a losing game. Because of my love for NUMBERS, I don’t see it that way and if people can benifit from my love for numbers im all for it. I just want to beat the books because they say it cant be done. If you were not referring to me. My bad. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>

 

[crzbrave]

I believe that you are referring to me CRZBRAVE. If you look through my threads, I have been bashed a few times in the past. I went for a few weeks without a losing day. I hit a little bump in the road and people were telling me that they lost and they bashed me. I believe one guy even said I lost him his college money. When I came back here from trying a career at touting people were mad at me for going and not telling them. A few people asked me and I had to tell them no. That hurt. I did this because of orders I was given to not talk about it by the higher ups. I respect this forum. A simple Google search a long time ago brought me here where I just sat silently and watched the best cappers like Ace Ace. I learned allot from him. He viewed the game just as I do. NUMBERS & %. I love numbers. Many years ago in the mortgage industry I was given the opportunity to manage a mortgage office after doing well as a loan officer. There was not enough business to go around and the office was struggling. I started looking at all of the loan turndowns and found ways to work the numbers to make the loan work. I would have the client pay something off to adjust their debt ratio or something crazy out of my head that benefited the client. I put a new marketing plan together which was to have my loan officers go and solicit other loan officers instead of actual borrowers for their turndowns and bring them to me so I can make the NUMBERS work (no I wasn’t responsible for the mortgage crises). It took off like crazy and then I talked the owners into allowing me to open branches for them around the country and make them profitable. They of course loved it but the real reason I made that happen was to be able to find ways to work with NUMBERS in different parts of the country to see what numbers and methods worked and did not. I became the national manager based on my love for numbers. Then I fire a girl and BAM! She has 7 men jump me in a parking lot and puts a hammer through my head. It all came to and end. I had a 47% chance of dying but pulled through. When you are that close to death you have a new outlook on life. You learn to smile and more importantly enjoy in other peoples time of joy. The RX started my interest in handicapping and for that I will always be loyal. Like last week when the site went down and someone at the other forum bashed Wilhelm I promptly stepped in and defended him. I would never wish a loss on anyone in this forum. Even if I did think like that I would go to other forums and wish them guys bad luck just because they do something stupid like GTC08 said (from what i read, especially the atlanta game is people getting on the hawks for scoring points which is the dumbest thing i've seen, had to stop myself from laughing on that one). But I don’t even do that. You ask why I don’t gamble on my picks? Because after that hammer went through my head I went from a comfortable 6 figure income to being almost bed ridden for almost 2 years with no income. I am now working on getting myself back on track as a loan officer but I am not 100% there yet. But next season I can’t wait. When I do my capping I have 2 full sheets of paper per game with scribble everywhere. It’s all what I love. NUMBERS. I use all the stats that are available to me and come up with my own formula’s and adjust them as the season goes on. Right now I don’t put money on it because I still am not back to where I was before my surgery financially. I need to get back there first. I am doing good but not there yet. I read the thread from GTC08 and it was like he was reading my mind. I see people chasing money and using too many personal opinions when it really is a lot about numbers & %. I see people say the game was fixed because they lost. I see a lot of crazy statements on here. But I never say anything because I don’t want to be the guy to piss in their cheerios. When I get bashed I rarely defend myself but this time I decided to. As far as the touting, people act like I didn’t do well or anything. This is not the case. I went 3-0 on my last night! I don’t gamble right now because of the aforementioned and I do it because most believe that gambling is a losing game. Because of my love for NUMBERS, I don’t see it that way and if people can benifit from my love for numbers im all for it. I just want to beat the books because they say it cant be done. If you were not referring to me. My bad. <o></o>

uhh wasn't referring to you, was speaking directly towards gtc.

 

[CHUGG]

uhh wasn't referring to you, was speaking directly towards gtc.

LOL no big deal a guy mentioned it in my thread so its a response to all the questions i never responded to.

 

[Cheungy]

I believe that you are referring to me CRZBRAVE. If you look through my threads, I have been bashed a few times in the past. I went for a few weeks without a losing day. I hit a little bump in the road and people were telling me that they lost and they bashed me. I believe one guy even said I lost him his college money. When I came back here from trying a career at touting people were mad at me for going and not telling them. A few people asked me and I had to tell them no. That hurt. I did this because of orders I was given to not talk about it by the higher ups. I respect this forum. A simple Google search a long time ago brought me here where I just sat silently and watched the best cappers like Ace Ace. I learned allot from him. He viewed the game just as I do. NUMBERS & %. I love numbers. Many years ago in the mortgage industry I was given the opportunity to manage a mortgage office after doing well as a loan officer. There was not enough business to go around and the office was struggling. I started looking at all of the loan turndowns and found ways to work the numbers to make the loan work. I would have the client pay something off to adjust their debt ratio or something crazy out of my head that benefited the client. I put a new marketing plan together which was to have my loan officers go and solicit other loan officers instead of actual borrowers for their turndowns and bring them to me so I can make the NUMBERS work (no I wasn’t responsible for the mortgage crises). It took off like crazy and then I talked the owners into allowing me to open branches for them around the country and make them profitable. They of course loved it but the real reason I made that happen was to be able to find ways to work with NUMBERS in different parts of the country to see what numbers and methods worked and did not. I became the national manager based on my love for numbers. Then I fire a girl and BAM! She has 7 men jump me in a parking lot and puts a hammer through my head. It all came to and end. I had a 47% chance of dying but pulled through. When you are that close to death you have a new outlook on life. You learn to smile and more importantly enjoy in other peoples time of joy. The RX started my interest in handicapping and for that I will always be loyal. Like last week when the site went down and someone at the other forum bashed Wilhelm I promptly stepped in and defended him. I would never wish a loss on anyone in this forum. Even if I did think like that I would go to other forums and wish them guys bad luck just because they do something stupid like GTC08 said (from what i read, especially the atlanta game is people getting on the hawks for scoring points which is the dumbest thing i've seen, had to stop myself from laughing on that one). But I don’t even do that. You ask why I don’t gamble on my picks? Because after that hammer went through my head I went from a comfortable 6 figure income to being almost bed ridden for almost 2 years with no income. I am now working on getting myself back on track as a loan officer but I am not 100% there yet. But next season I can’t wait. When I do my capping I have 2 full sheets of paper per game with scribble everywhere. It’s all what I love. NUMBERS. I use all the stats that are available to me and come up with my own formula’s and adjust them as the season goes on. Right now I don’t put money on it because I still am not back to where I was before my surgery financially. I need to get back there first. I am doing good but not there yet. I read the thread from GTC08 and it was like he was reading my mind. I see people chasing money and using too many personal opinions when it really is a lot about numbers & %. I see people say the game was fixed because they lost. I see a lot of crazy statements on here. But I never say anything because I don’t want to be the guy to piss in their cheerios. When I get bashed I rarely defend myself but this time I decided to. As far as the touting, people act like I didn’t do well or anything. This is not the case. I went 3-0 on my last night! I don’t gamble right now because of the aforementioned and I do it because most believe that gambling is a losing game. Because of my love for NUMBERS, I don’t see it that way and if people can benifit from my love for numbers im all for it. I just want to beat the books because they say it cant be done. If you were not referring to me. My bad. <o></o>

man thats a fuckin trip...i am glad you were able to bounced back.

 

[akphidelt]

just got back from downtown, checking some of these threads.

see a lot of dumb commentary, people not understanding the games.

from what i read, especially the atlanta game is people getting on the hawks for scoring points which is the dumbest thing i've seen, had to stop myself from laughing on that one.

other thread saying the league was fixed.

overall, i assume 18 year olds and under whining like usual.

i always say this though when people bring up the fix angle. are you that much of a degenerate that you bet on games that you have already determined are fixed? many of you do, which should be a glaring indicator that you need to get outside and do something or get help. if you think its fixed, you should have enough self control to get away from it. too many times i see someone say it's fixed and then bet and lose the next day again. i just scratch my head and think this is just a idiot degenerate.

i think some of you should re-evaluate why you are gambling and quit if you arn't doing it just for recreation. from the majority of threads i see, many of you are betting with money you shouldn't or can't afford to bet with.

and the league is fixed anyways(rolls eyes), so why keep betting?

The money line is -1200 that you are addicting to gambling but put others down to make up for your own insecurities and problems. Great job man!! Must be a sad depressing life!

But, on a serious note... if you literally believe that games are being fixed, then you also have a problem... just not the same problems this guy has!

 

[Psylence]

On the fixed issue i also was surprised about how many claims are made, especially when teams win even with not that high of a ml +200 or +300 and they can't believe an upset has happened.

 

[gtc08]

if i bumped this thread after every poster who whined about a loss/fix or said the stupidest of comments like why are they still scoring, i'd have 1,000 or so responses by the end of the season.

the truth is it's annoying to see people constantly whine about losses. i can confidently state at least 6 out of 10 posters in this area are problem gamblers.

i knew miamiboy was one months before he spilled the beans and said he was in 20k in debt on his credit cards because of gambling. i told him to quit, then he's posting here a week later.

remove the emotion by not betting your livelihood on these games. that's what a lot of you don't get.

 

[2swing]

ignore these whiners-why do u even care? it's a waste of your time if you ask me. I'd rather spend my time capping more game or turn myself to do other things productive.

 

[yanni_gogolak]

just got back from downtown, checking some of these threads.

see a lot of dumb commentary, people not understanding the games.

from what i read, especially the atlanta game is people getting on the hawks for scoring points which is the dumbest thing i've seen, had to stop myself from laughing on that one.

other thread saying the league was fixed.

overall, i assume 18 year olds and under whining like usual.

i always say this though when people bring up the fix angle. are you that much of a degenerate that you bet on games that you have already determined are fixed? many of you do, which should be a glaring indicator that you need to get outside and do something or get help. if you think its fixed, you should have enough self control to get away from it. too many times i see someone say it's fixed and then bet and lose the next day again. i just scratch my head and think this is just a idiot degenerate.

i think some of you should re-evaluate why you are gambling and quit if you arn't doing it just for recreation. from the majority of threads i see, many of you are betting with money you shouldn't or can't afford to bet with.

and the league is fixed anyways(rolls eyes), so why keep betting?

your're right, asking ATL to score points isnt a great bet, thats why i liked the under. what did they do? go out and drop 109 points. they have hit 109 only 3 of their previous 29 games, that's 10.3% of their last 29 games. so i would say they did exactly what you claim people wanted them to do, which was score. the problem was that they gave up 33 pts in the 4th quarter. they almost never do that. so it was their defense that didnt let them cover.

its pretty easy to come in after a game is over and laugh at people who lost. whats even funnier is when you think you are being smart about it but then it gets pointed out that that team did something that they haven't done in 90% of their last 29 games. woops.

 

[HacheMan]

I'm pretty sure he is referring to everyone who was interacting in the Atlanta/Minnesota Under total thread.

It was a DISCUSSION thread to talk about as the game was going on.

That's the purpose of an IN-GAME THREAD.

Most who were on that total were involved in that thread and was having fun talking about it as it unfolded.

The play lost.

What was everyone supposed to do who just lost, jump up & down for joy?

 

[NYG4lifeNYK]

if i bumped this thread after every poster who whined about a loss/fix or said the stupidest of comments like why are they still scoring, i'd have 1,000 or so responses by the end of the season.

the truth is it's annoying to see people constantly whine about losses. i can confidently state at least 6 out of 10 posters in this area are problem gamblers.

i knew miamiboy was one months before he spilled the beans and said he was in 20k in debt on his credit cards because of gambling. i told him to quit, then he's posting here a week later.

remove the emotion by not betting your livelihood on these games. that's what a lot of you don't get.

You honestly think people are going to listen to you? A stranger who no one knows? They know what they are doing, gambling is HIGHLY addictive obviously. People do what they want and can only stop or start something on their own.

 

[sumday]

I'm pretty sure he is referring to everyone who was interacting in the Atlanta/Minnesota Under total thread.

It was a DISCUSSION thread to talk about as the game was going on.

That's the purpose of an IN-GAME THREAD.

Most who were on that total were involved in that thread and was having fun talking about it as it unfolded.

The play lost.

What was everyone supposed to do who just lost, jump up & down for joy?

I couldn't have put it better myself. This gtc clown, is a hypocrite. As if he has never had an annoying loss or bitched about a loss. This is a sports gambling site gtc. Get a clue. People are going to talk about sports gambling and cheer and complain and get happy or pissed off. It's all apart of gambling whether you bet large or small, you do it for the entertainment too. Which means you get riled up at times.

Yeah, I was aggravated and had a bad loss with the atlanta dumbasses racking on the points. The day before I had a great stoke of luck and won a bet I should have lost and cheered. That's the point of threads. For those that don't like what's going on in that thread or like to pretend they are somehow better or wiser(what a joke if gtc thinks he is wiser) then still the hell out of those threads.

By the way, I don't believe sports are fixed but I do understand that refs, players and other are involved in trying to rig a game on occasion but I never blame a loss on a so called fix.

Again, we will continue to cheer and bitch in threads about games. You don't like it, don't read it.

 

[sumday]

just got back from downtown, checking some of these threads.

see a lot of dumb commentary, people not understanding the games.

from what i read, especially the atlanta game is people getting on the hawks for scoring points which is the dumbest thing i've seen, had to stop myself from laughing on that one.

other thread saying the league was fixed.

overall, i assume 18 year olds and under whining like usual.

i always say this though when people bring up the fix angle. are you that much of a degenerate that you bet on games that you have already determined are fixed? many of you do, which should be a glaring indicator that you need to get outside and do something or get help. if you think its fixed, you should have enough self control to get away from it. too many times i see someone say it's fixed and then bet and lose the next day again. i just scratch my head and think this is just a idiot degenerate.

i think some of you should re-evaluate why you are gambling and quit if you arn't doing it just for recreation. from the majority of threads i see, many of you are betting with money you shouldn't or can't afford to bet with.

and the league is fixed anyways(rolls eyes), so why keep betting?

I'm laughing at you thinking you know the game better than anyone. You obviously don't understand the game much either.

 

[Snookslayer]

NBA Ytd: 72-74-3 -$829

It's gotta be fixed. How else could you explain my pathetic record? :think2:

 

[gtc08]

this is just my overall thoughts on the manner. if you didn't care if you won or lost, which should be the mindset for everyone who gambles, because it means you don't have anything at stake, then you wouldn't see these threads with everyone bitching and moaning. instead you'd see threads discussing the games, and on and on. instead of threads saying this sucks, these clowns, league is fixed, he purposely did this and that, bla bla bla bla again and again which takes up at least half the forum.

that should be a red light that a majority of the people doing the complaining are the ones who shouldn't be gambling to begin with.

like i said, you should have no emotion when making these bets win/lose if you are betting with money you can afford to lose.

when you have people posting radical, stupid commentary on a continual basis after losses it's a clear indicator that they are hopelessly addicted and betting over there heads with money they can't afford to bet with. those posters should be banned.

i'll give you 2 examples. 1. quantumleap.

posts nba 2h totals alot. lost the other night, had a couple off days. he posts his record and moves on. he doesn't sweat it because it doesn't mean anything to him.

the other side olballcoach.

this kid was so in far over his head it wasn't funny. constantly complained after losses, admitted he couldn't afford to lose his plays, etc.

this forum needs the quantumleap posters, instead of the olballcoach type posters. instead you have a majority olballcoach, sumday posters which just drags the forum down.

 

[NYG4lifeNYK]

Why do you care so much what people do with their money.. it's THEIR money. If they lose it and want to complain so be it ignore them, who are you to tell them otherwise? Obviously people who have tons of money aren't going to think about their losses as much as people who can't afford to lose. People gamble to make money whether they can or cannot afford to be doing so is irrelevant and shouldn't concern you.

So let me ask you a question.. a post such as this one about people complaining about betting is better and 'productive' then people making threads complaining about betting? Hypocritical?

 

[sumday]

this is just my overall thoughts on the manner. if you didn't care if you won or lost, which should be the mindset for everyone who gambles, because it means you don't have anything at stake, then you wouldn't see these threads with everyone bitching and moaning. instead you'd see threads discussing the games, and on and on. instead of threads saying this sucks, these clowns, league is fixed, he purposely did this and that, bla bla bla bla again and again which takes up at least half the forum.

that should be a red light that a majority of the people doing the complaining are the ones who shouldn't be gambling to begin with.

like i said, you should have no emotion when making these bets win/lose if you are betting with money you can afford to lose.

when you have people posting radical, stupid commentary on a continual basis after losses it's a clear indicator that they are hopelessly addicted and betting over there heads with money they can't afford to bet with. those posters should be banned.

i'll give you 2 examples. 1. quantumleap.

posts nba 2h totals alot. lost the other night, had a couple off days. he posts his record and moves on. he doesn't sweat it because it doesn't mean anything to him.

the other side olballcoach.

this kid was so in far over his head it wasn't funny. constantly complained after losses, admitted he couldn't afford to lose his plays, etc.

this forum needs the quantumleap posters, instead of the olballcoach type posters. instead you have a majority olballcoach, sumday posters which just drags the forum down.

This is your opinion. In my opinion, posters like you drag the site down with your negativity. You don't know anything about me at all. 95% of my threads are positive and I seldom complaing about a loss you moron.

Ignorant posters like you, gtc, are whats dragging this site down.