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They are fucking horrendous. Anyone who's watched them knows they are just shit.

That said, I can't take Clemson either but if you want some action IMO you either take Clemson to cover or nothing.
 

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Tease it with something. Watson suiting up, what a damn joke. Starting to think Swinney has gone a little nuts, must have some Muschampitis. They'll win with Stoudt, but not by three touches. I'm taking it down to 13+ and we'll see what happens from there. GL

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The sad part about all of this is that wake forest actually plays respectable defense in that conference. Some could argue that their defense is actually very good. But their offense...... Gross.... 34 rushing yards a game?!?!? Is that real life? Washington state a vergara more than that and they drop back and throw 80 times a game lol...the public is fading the line down to 21 or less... If it for some reason goes the other way and gets to 23 or more I may take a stab at it with cole stoudt as the qb... That dude finds ways to keep other teams in ball games. He's a fade players dream lol!!!
 

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How will Wake score? Clemson's defense is legit! It will take Stoudt throwing a pick 6 or a few fumbles for Wake to get on the board! Plus national tv, Dabo is a media whore and is always starving for attention so if it's possible to run it up he will!
 

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How will Wake score? Clemson's defense is legit! It will take Stoudt throwing a pick 6 or a few fumbles for Wake to get on the board! Plus national tv, Dabo is a media whore and is always starving for attention so if it's possible to run it up he will!

THAT, and how much can Clemson score? Stoudt sux, plain and simple. Watson suiting up "just in case they aren't winning the game." He's got a snow ball's chance in Myrtle Beach of playing tonight, gents, this game shouldn't see 30 points let alone 42+. Backing off the Clemson tease, Wake actually has two senior corners that are legit, think they give Stoudt a rough time passing, and playing the under in some combo with the pro game and Memphis tomorrow night, a tease obviously. GLTA

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I agree with everything said to this point in this thread. Question is what would you tease it with? If Wake Defense did somehow create a short field and points, I would love the 30 something...but if they dumpster fire on Offense as always, this game could go 24-0.
 

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I agree with everything said to this point in this thread. Question is what would you tease it with? If Wake Defense did somehow create a short field and points, I would love the 30 something...but if they dumpster fire on Offense as always, this game could go 24-0.

Here's what I'm doing, I quit posting plays because early in the season when I did, they were tanking, the gambling gods were pissed at the "arrogance," I guess, and when I stopped, I couldn't stop winning. So I can afford a loss, LOL.
u50 Clemson/Wake
Bengals +1
Memphis ++
I'd consider throwing your USU/Wy total in the mix, but was leaning over 40 something, can't remember the line right now, in the Memphis/Temple game.

What everyone needs to realize, Clemson's O was all-world when Watson was playing, the kid has talent. Stoudt is just plain bad, all kinds of shit in the news when the season began about how he was patient waiting for his turn after Taj left. Well, Swinney made a bad choice, Stoudt is G-A-R-B-A-G-E. They've averaged 16+ points/gm with that fool in the game.

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I think clemson's defense will either score twice or set up a few easy scores. Stoudt is bad but I could still see Clemson scoring 30 with turnovers and short fields. Glta
 

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I think clemson's defense will either score twice or set up a few easy scores. Stoudt is bad but I could still see Clemson scoring 30 with turnovers and short fields. Glta

They both played Boston College in the past couple of weeks....LOOK at the scores. No way in hell Clemson scores 30 tonight.

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My line shows 42.5 for the total right now. That's 6tds and a fg to go over. This is a battle of two formidable defenses and two pitiful offenses struggling to score. Wake forest's defense is 10th in the country when it comes to passing yards allowed. 10th! Also they are 40th overall... Not bad if you ask me. Meanwhile their offense is 123rd in the country... Clemsons defense is very good and this game is at wake... Cole stoudt will play the whole first half, and this game should be much closer than expected at half and the end... I expect wake to come out looking to make a statement. Problem is their offense won't do anything other than a couple of Fg's at best... Their defense should be a nightmare for Cole stoudt who might have 2 turnovers in the first half before dabo elbow drops the panic button from the top turnbuckle and inserts Watson to save the day for a 14-17 point victory lol........ I'm playing the under. If I lose oh well, but I'll take my chances with these two inept offenses trying to prove me wrong
 

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Quack, ever been to a Cirque du Soleil show? Unreal shit. I was in Vegas not long ago and went to one of their shows out there, try to catch one or two each visit. There was one act they were using these, hell, not sure, 6' or 10' hoola-hoops (sp?). Most good QB's can throw the ball through a tire at what, 10 yards, maybe more. Stoudt couldn't throw it through one of these hoola-hoops at 10 feet. I'd had played this straight up except I had a few other pre-Saturday games I wanted action on so did the tease, I think u42+ here much more reward than risk. GL

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Dabo says Watson is healthy and ready to go but not gonna use him unless they need him to win!! What kind of logic is that??? If he's healthy and he's your quarterback then you start him! Obviously he's not healthy! Dabo is an ass clown!
 

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Big favorites of over 10 points coming off a bye week and going on the road to play an easy opponent have a terrible ATS record. Something like 40% cover. Boise falls into the same category this week against NM. I tend to either bet against the big faves or just lay off these games altogether. I don't like those kinds of odds...
 
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Dabo just wants them to prepare....somehow wake forest and the word formidable don't go together
 

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Quack, ever been to a Cirque du Soleil show? Unreal shit. I was in Vegas not long ago and went to one of their shows out there, try to catch one or two each visit. There was one act they were using these, hell, not sure, 6' or 10' hoola-hoops (sp?). Most good QB's can throw the ball through a tire at what, 10 yards, maybe more. Stoudt couldn't throw it through one of these hoola-hoops at 10 feet. I'd had played this straight up except I had a few other pre-Saturday games I wanted action on so did the tease, I think u42+ here much more reward than risk. GL

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tmader I actually have been to that show in Vegas.... Show is incredible. But you're absolutely right. I can't watch stoudt play without wondering how he's division 1..... this wake forest team at home should hVe him out of the game after half. Now the line is climbing back towards 44?!? I'm going fairly heavy on the under because I can't find one reason to play the over lol. "Fade2win" is playing the over and I love that guys picks so it makes me sick thinking he's on the other end.... Oh well, gotta play my own thoughts this time around. BOL to everyone, keep that total climbing lol
 

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The situation actually looks pretty good for Wake in this game here, however my rating on Wake still puts them below the Mendozza line in how much I'm willing to hold my nose to make a play for. Of course all this depends on Watson's status because if Dabo wants to give him some reps maybe in the second half then Clem obviously rolls em like sushi.
 

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Everything points to Wake not putting up more than 10 points and everything points to the under as well. So why did this open at 42.5/43 and now it's up to 43.5/44? Because stupid crap happens in football and they probably put up over 50 points total.
 

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I'll stick to my earlier comment about Clemson scoring 30+ tonight. I just see clemson's defense creating a lot of short fields and turnovers. Stoudt may be bad but this is still Weak Forrest we're talking about.
 

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Everything points to Wake not putting up more than 10 points and everything points to the under as well. So why did this open at 42.5/43 and now it's up to 43.5/44? Because stupid crap happens in football and they probably put up over 50 points total.

I like the OVER tonight
 

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