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Lobbying Push For Legal US Sports Betting Could Start Next Year

Will Green, July 1, 2016 10:35 PDT@wfcgreen

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<default>A coalition of sports betting industry stakeholders is planning a formal lobbying effort on Capitol Hill, potentially in early 2017, that will push for the expansion of legalized wagering. That was the biggest news from the American Gaming Association at a conference for media members on Thursday.The AGA is leading the effort to shape the coalition and has made sports betting its signature initiative in recent months. On Thursday, the AGA cited the NHL’s decision to locate a franchise in Las Vegas as a major step in the evolution of American sports betting.

AGA senior VP of public affairs Sara Rayme said the association expects to build on what it sees as significant momentum for the expansion of legal sports wagering, and achieve that result in three to five years.
Even with sizable momentum, such a timetable is ambitious and could face an extensive, diverse set of hurdles, from the legislative to the litigious.

Possible hurdles for sports betting legalization

A central hurdle to the expansion of sports betting in America is the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, a 1992 federal law that prevents all but four states from offering some form of sports wagering.
A partial repeal or alteration of PASPA is likely the most direct way to expand sports betting. Gaming attorney Daniel Wallach, a shareholder with Becker & Poliakoff, characterized the federal law Thursday as, “hanging by a thread and waiting for a knockout blow.”

But amending PASPA could prove difficult. Congress is notoriously slow to act in general, let alone at altering existing law. But as a recent daily fantasy sports hearing on Capitol Hill illustrated, there’s a sizable education gap between stakeholders and legislators when it comes to even understanding the speed and technology of 21st century sports gambling.
Nevada sports betting apps for mobile phones, could account for as much as 50 percent of that figure by the year 2020, according to Eilers & Krejcik Gaming, and the Nevada Gaming Commission is likely to approve regulations making it possible for bettors to setup and fund their mobile betting accounts from outside Nevada.

Genius Sports CEO Mark Locke noted at Thursday’s conference that sportsbooks are offering bettors as many as 200,000 opportunities a year for live, in-play wagering on their phone. Bettors can wager on an evolving menu of second-by-second options pertaining to almost any aspect of a game.
The courts and the leagues

New Jersey is awaiting a ruling in a federal court case that could determine whether it will be allowed to partially repeal its ban on sports wagering. So far, New Jersey has challenged PASPA largely on its own. Other states deciding to mount similar challenges could help those efforts, although none have yet done so.

Sports betting enthusiasts also run the risk of the leagues’ “evolution” (NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell used the word earlier this year) on sports gambling not really being that evolved after all.

The NHL has the ability to ask Nevada not to allow wagering on the Las Vegas franchise. It has not elected to do this at this time, but it is formally opposing sports wagering legislation in Canada. It, and the three other major sports leagues, are plaintiffs in the New Jersey sports betting lawsuit.

The NFL, meanwhile, continues to confound with its policies toward gambling and DFS. The league does not have a formal partnership with either of the big two daily fantasy sports operators,DraftKings or FanDuel, but 28 of its teams have sponsorship agreements with an operator and two of its franchise owners are investors in an operator.
The NFL has allegedly forced the cancellation of multiple Las Vegas-based events featuring current players, but does not appear opposed to the Oakland Raiders franchise relocating there.
Signs of Progress

Despite the challenges awaiting any formalized legalization effort, those at the conference Thursday noted several reasons to be cautiously optimistic about sports wagering’s future in the U.S.
Recent signs have hinted at a broadening acceptance by some of the professional sports leagues toward betting. Until now, Las Vegas has never had a franchise from one of the four major sports leagues due in part to the leagues’ long-standing opposition to gambling.

NBA commissioner Adam Silver has repeatedly sparked a conversation about the need for a framework for legal, regulated sports gambling, although few others have picked up the batonand converted Silver’s rhetoric to action.
Just Thursday, the Pennsylvania House of Representatives passed a resolution urging Congress to repeal PASPA and then “allow states that authorize, license and regulate casino gaming, including the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, to legalize sports betting through its licensed facilities.” Legislatures in Pennsylvania, Delaware and New York, have introduced sports betting legislation this year.

But it’s unclear how much these words have, or will, translate to significant legislative movement.
Daily fantasy sports, however, is something that has already forced action on behalf of both the leagues and legislators.
DFS’ role in sports betting

Rayme credited the recent rise in popularity of DFS, and its industry’s subsequent 2016 legislative blitz, for making more people aware of the issue of sports betting in America.

“DFS is the gift that keeps on giving. It’s mainstreamed our business,” Rayme said, noting that it forced the hands of several professional leagues into taking a stand on some form of gaming, regardless of whether DFS is legally defined as sports betting.
Part of that awareness has funneled a broader awareness of illegal gambling in America.

The AGA estimates Americans wagered $149 billion in 2015. $4.2 billion—the same amount wagered both legally and illegally on the Super Bowl alone — made up the entirety of America’s legal sports wagering handle in 2015, according to Nevada Gaming Control, putting estimates of the illegal American gaming handle that year at approximately $145 billion.
This illegal market constitutes a “huge liability, a huge vulnerability,” for the leagues, and helps fund illegal criminal activity, according to Rayme.

She said the AGA’s push for legalization is grounded in exterminating those illegal activities, and not the leagues’ traditional fear of a player taking a bribe to throw a game.
What would legal sports betting look like?

While it’s not clear if or when sports betting will be more broadly legalized, it’s clear the industry is continually evolving, both in handle size and in technological capacity.

Locke handicapped the size of a 50-state, legal betting market as being “hundreds of billions dollars” larger than the measly potential $5 billion handle some project for 2016.

Jimmy Vaccaro, who directs the sportsbook at the South Point, attributed the rise in prop bets (his book featured 300 of them for Super Bowl 50) and non-sports bets (the South Point offered +160 odds earlier this month that Hillary Clinton would be indicted) to the increasing entertainment value that modern sportsbooks are expected to provide for casino-goers.

Boyd Gaming’s Bob Scucci noted the benefit of the NGC’s decision last year to approve Olympic wagering in advance of August’s games in Rio De Janiero, and said that more sports had the potential to be added to provide an expanded wagering menu for bettors. The Commission is expected to take up esports betting regulations later in 2016.

The leagues and the gaming industry would also likely continue to work together to identify and monitor suspicious activity. Former NGC commissioner Mark Lipparelli characterized the relationship between the two as mutually beneficial.

And if PASPA is altered to allow other states to authorize wagering, public sentiment could drive the sports betting industry to a fragmentation similar to that of the DFS industry. A poll of Super Bowl bettors conducted earlier this year by The Mellman Group found that 66 percent wanted states, not the federal government, to decide whether or not sports betting should be legal.

‘No action’ for time being

Earlier this month, AGA President and CEO Geoff Freeman said it was still premature to be lobbying on Capitol Hill for legalized sports betting. It is unlikely any formal efforts would get underway before the presidential election on Nov. 8, and potentially not until next year.

The formation of a formal lobbying effort, though, could signal that there’s action lying in wait beyond the recent rhetoric calling for a change to America’s sports gambling policy.


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I've said from the beginning. Repealing part of PASPA is the way to go. If/When it's repealed New Jersey and will be opening over night, and any state that already has other gambling will have it soon.
 

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I've said from the beginning. Repealing part of PASPA is the way to go. If/When it's repealed New Jersey and will be opening over night, and any state that already has other gambling will have it soon.

you may wager your money when the Kings and Queens say it is ok.....and unfortunately I ain't talking about KingEleven
 

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I don't see it being legal in all 50 states for a long time.

My guess is once the non-sports viewers stop subsidizing sports viewers cable TV packages and your entertainment is more customized, then you will see it start to make headway. That is probably 5-10 years away. Tough to say. Streaming speeds keep getting exponentially faster.

Unfortunately, it'll probably suck and have tons of regulations but if you just wanna bet $50-100 on a game it won't be too bad.
 

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I don't see it being legal in all 50 states for a long time.

My guess is once the non-sports viewers stop subsidizing sports viewers cable TV packages and your entertainment is more customized, then you will see it start to make headway. That is probably 5-10 years away. Tough to say. Streaming speeds keep getting exponentially faster.

Unfortunately, it'll probably suck and have tons of regulations but if you just wanna bet $50-100 on a game it won't be too bad.

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I don't see it being legal in all 50 states for a long time.

My guess is once the non-sports viewers stop subsidizing sports viewers cable TV packages and your entertainment is more customized, then you will see it start to make headway. That is probably 5-10 years away. Tough to say. Streaming speeds keep getting exponentially faster.

Unfortunately, it'll probably suck and have tons of regulations but if you just wanna bet $50-100 on a game it won't be too bad.

I think it will eventually be left up to the States (I hope). Vegas is regulated, and it' really not a bad set up here. I think depending on where you live will determine whether it sucks or not.
 

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I think it will eventually be left up to the States (I hope). Vegas is regulated, and it' really not a bad set up here. I think depending on where you live will determine whether it sucks or not.

great so you are saying mine will suck then? :>(
 

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My guess is most states do what DFS does, any profits over $600 in a calender year trigger a 1099.

Probably some type of income verification for large deposits, etc. I mean it won't be the worst thing but this is where DFS is going as well.

Also, if you are a fan of betting college sports, GL w/ that. Not sure that is happening anytime soon.
 

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There's a thread here somewhere about it, but big names & casinos are actually in favor of legalizing sports betting nationwide now.

Why?

Because they are wanting their apps to be available to other states.

Meaning, they obviously see legalization coming eventually, and want to get a jump on the competition...
 

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My guess is most states do what DFS does, any profits over $600 in a calender year trigger a 1099.

Probably some type of income verification for large deposits, etc. I mean it won't be the worth thing but this is where DFS is going as well.

Also, if you are a fan of betting college sports, GL w/ that. Not sure that is happening anytime soon.

The good thing about Nevada is there's no income tax. But even the FEDS don't fuck with it. FEDs realized they make their money from Jack Pots and Casino Revenue. 99% of sports bettors are losers, and the FED's would rather not have it auto tracked because it will cost them money in write offs on big jack pots. Sure you can keep your own records and still write it off, but not likely without a fight. Plus they know most people aren't going to keep records. Been plenty of cases where the FEDS wont accept statements from the casinos here in Nevada. So nothing from the app gets reported unless it's like a Jack pot, like a huge parlay with over 300/1 odds. So it's good for the few that are grind out winners, but still you're on the honor system and if you are raking in tons of money they'll find out another way eventually.
 

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If it is app based sports betting then that is pretty easy to track if someone makes over $600 with one company or not. I'm not saying that is how it will go down but it is probable the threshold won't be too high.
 

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If it is app based sports betting then that is pretty easy to track if someone makes over $600 with one company or not. I'm not saying that is how it will go down but it is probable the threshold won't be too high.

Yeah it's easy to do, but its also easy to track losses. The IRS has decided they won't except them on the technicality that it could be flawed, and that casinos aren't qualified or libel, to be your bookkeeper. Really they didn't want them to be used to off set taxes on jack pot winners. That could change though if you have enough people winning. But there have already been court cases where the courts sided with the IRS that tracking can't be used for tax purposes. They want you to keep your own records if you are a professional gambler.
 

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Digitally is just a whole different ball game, way easier to track.

Comparing that to a casino is apples to oranges.

And this will be a way bigger pie than jack pot winners.

99% of gamblers lose long-term but that is a flawed way to look at 1099's being issued, a calender year isn't anything close to long-term. Especially given the market share football will have for bets and the low volume that comes from that. There would be a decent amount of tax revenue to derive from this.

Probably like 25-35% of football bettors win over a given year. Be tough to get exact data on this but the chances someone goes 27-23 or better over 50 bets is around 33-35%.

Also, most people losing $3-500 during NFL season aren't going to bother with the writeoff anyway.
 

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Digitally is just a whole different ball game, way easier to track.

Comparing that to a casino is apples to oranges.

And this will be a way bigger pie than jack pot winners.

99% of gamblers lose long-term but that is a flawed way to look at 1099's being issued, a calender year isn't anything close to long-term. Especially given the market share football will have for bets and the low volume that comes from that. There would be a decent amount of tax revenue to derive from this.

Probably like 25-35% of football bettors win over a given year. Be tough to get exact data on this but the chances someone goes 27-23 or better over 50 bets is around 33-35%.

Also, most people losing $3-500 during NFL season aren't going to bother with the writeoff anyway.

Most people that are losing 3-500 aren't winning that much either. And the tracking at casinos on things like slots are digital. People lose more over the course of a year than you you think. High rollers that hit 100k jack pot were trying to write most of it off with digital tracking of losses which add up to huge amounts like 75% sometimes all of that jack pot. Most guys that win big are also losing big.
 

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You have futures, parlays as well. People hit big scores with stuff like that and it will be taxable.

This is how it is in DFS. You win over $600, you get a 1099 at the site. Tons of people are -EV DFS players that will pay this tax over a calendar year.

If sports betting is more widespread and it is digital, it is likely going to go on a similar trajectory. Like I said, a lot of people win over the short-term.

If you think the gov't is letting someone go tax free on a Ravens to win the superbowl future then I'll probably say I'd have to see it to believe it.
 

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Yeah big futures and parlays is how the FEDS make their money on sports gamblers. Vegas has won the battle on the grinding tracking, cause it causes people to gamble less and is less revenue long term. I'm just saying that's how it is here. My app is digital and none of my tracking is reported unless it's 300-1 payout.
 

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I think it will eventually be left up to the States (I hope). Vegas is regulated, and it' really not a bad set up here. I think depending on where you live will determine whether it sucks or not.

Yup.....just like weed being decriminalized in several states, slowly but surely it will spread like wild fire across every state......same thing goes for legalized sports betting. Delaware, Pennsylvania & New Jersey will get it first, then slowly with spread to other states.
 

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Yeah big futures and parlays is how the FEDS make their money on sports gamblers. Vegas has won the battle on the grinding tracking, cause it causes people to gamble less and is less revenue long term. I'm just saying that's how it is here. My app is digital and none of my tracking is reported unless it's 300-1 payout.

The online apps just have the same policy as the B&M casinos now though. Probably once everything is online rather than B&M, it'll change how it is taxed. Vegas might not change but other states likely will and all betting will be done electronically (if it ever even happens) so it will all be easy to track.

I don't know if the threshold will be $600 or 1k or 2k but I don't think it'll be very high before it triggers you being sent a tax form.

Who knows though, this is all so preliminary but I can't imagine people won't have to break off a little of big scores to the feds over a net amount.
 

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The online apps just have the same policy as the B&M casinos now though. Probably once everything is online rather than B&M, it'll change how it is taxed. Vegas might not change but other states likely will and all betting will be done electronically (if it ever even happens) so it will all be easy to track.

I don't know if the threshold will be $600 or 1k or 2k but I don't think it'll be very high before it triggers you being sent a tax form.

Who knows though, this is all so preliminary but I can't imagine people won't have to break off a little of big scores to the feds over a net amount.



I agree........you can bet the US Gov. is going to get their cut one way or another....that's why if they do legalize it I think
I will continue to still only play off--shore............
 

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