Libs in a panic over McCain's performance: McCain cheated! He was too good!

[JoeContrarian]

NBC's Andrea Mitchell Floats Idea McCain Cheated

By D. S. Hube (Bio | Archive)
August 17, 2008 - 14:58 ET

Think John McCain did pretty well in last evening's Saddleback Civil Forum on Presidency hosted by the Rev. Rick Warren? You're not the only one. The Obama campaign thinks he did well too -- so good, in fact, that they think he might have cheated. And on this morning's "Meet the Press," Andrea Mitchell wasted no time floating the Obama campaign's "private" concern:

(Videotape)
SEN. JOHN McCAIN (R-AZ): Defeat it. Couple of points. One, if I'm president of the United States, my friends, if I have to follow him to the gates of hell, I will get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice. I will do that and I know how to do it. I will get that done.

(End videotape)

MR. GREGORY: Andrea Mitchell, that's a pretty clear contrast.

MS. ANDREA MITCHELL: Oh, absolutely. And, you know, there was the crisp, immediate, forceful response by John McCain, clearly in a comfort zone because he was with his base. And Barack Obama, taking a risk in going there but seeing an opportunity. And a much more nuanced approach. The Obama people must feel that he didn't do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context, because that -- what they're putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama.

MR. GREGORY: Right.

MS. MITCHELL: He seemed so well prepared.

Full video of today's "Meet the Press" can be seen here. Relevant segment begins at approx. 33:50.
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Wow. Somehow, John McCain can't do well on his own -- that being "so well prepared" means that he heard Obama's answers and then immediately formulated revised responses to what he originally had planned! And Andrea Mitchell barely hestitated to toss that out there, with guest host David Gregory merely offering a rather semi-innocuous "Right" in response.

I wonder what the Obama campaign's reaction (and Andrea Mitchell's for that matter) would have been had the situation been reversed -- if the McCain campaign implied that Obama had "seemed so well prepared" and therefore Obama probably heard McCain's answers to Warren.

Methinks a certain "R" word would have been uttered a few times ...
(h/t to NB reader Lee B.)

*****Update: Did Mitchell get this idea from a Daily Kos poster?
—D. S. Hube is an educator and a member of the National Association of Scholars. He blogs regularly at The Colossus of Rhodey.

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Losers never lose graciously.

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[Willie99]

Mitchell is a piece of shit talking head clearly and undeniably in Obama's camp.

She's a piece of shit because she is one of fake media members that hold themselves out to be objective, and she's a biased hack. They are the scum of the earth. They are enablers, they are one of the primary reasons there is no honesty in politics.

Fuck you bitch, McCain kicked the chosen one's asssss, deal with it. And keep BO near a fucking tele-prompter if you want to win, bozos.

:lol:

 

[Samhain]

The only way for BHO to win is for someone to write a script.

 

[Seymour]

That ain't shit - when McCain wins Obama nation is going straight to this type of crap

 

[Willie99]

Joe, what the fool is too dumb to realize is that she's only preaching to the left wing choir, everybody else looks at that stuff and laughs. With the internet and talk radio, her words will be heard and She's hurting her boy.

Another one that needs to stay front and center. They wonder why their wishes keep getting rejected. People don't trust liars.

 

[Samhain]

Hopefully Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon will pack their bags too. Take Alec Baldwin with ya!

 

[JoeContrarian]

The final nail in the coffin for Obama -- and you heard it here first -- will be during the RNC, when Obama and his Hollywood Gorebull Warning learjet liberal hypocrites pack up and head to Switzerland for a fundraiser sponsored by George Clooney, who -- like most Holywood libs -- doesn't even live in the US anymore.

Republicans are going to have a field day with that one.

I can't believe any Obama advisor would be so stupid as to let it happen, but it appears that's exactly what will happen.

Then again, what else could we expect from the Audacity of Arrogance...

Needless to say, it's been a VERY good month for America-loving Americans.

:grandmais

 

[Devilsadvocate+]

Can Obama just give a straight answer on the fly? The abortion issue was pathetic. Just be truthful and don't search for the answer that straddles the fence because of the venue. His taint must be getting sore from all the straddling. All the eloquence leaves without the teleprompter and we are left with ahhhhs and errrrs and welllls.

 

[nimue77]

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The money still thinks Obama is a big favorite and for good reason.
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[JoeContrarian]

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</td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-oddrow"> <td>DEMOCRAT </td><td align="right">62 </td><td align="right">67 </td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"> -203 </td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-evenrow"> <td>REPUBLICAN </td><td align="right">34 </td><td align="right">39 </td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"> +156 </td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-oddrow"> <td>OTHER



The money still thinks Obama is a big favorite and for good reason.
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Squarest odds I have ever seen.

Obama is a "rock star" -- OF COURSE the conventional wisdom will be reflected in the odds.

Don't you understand how odds are calculated, nimue? The oddsmaker's job is to predict how the market perceives the outcome of an event, rather than the actual outcome of the event itself.

Do you bet on sports? I feel very sorry for you. hno:

 

[JoeContrarian]

Unlike Bush, McCain is feisty and pushes back against the left wing smear machine who aren't the least bit shy about their obsession with Obama.

After last night's performance, I am slowly evolving from a strict anti-Obama guy into being pro-McCain! Imagine that!

Well done, Senator.

:aktion033

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McCain protests NBC coverage
By MIKE ALLEN | 8/17/08 11:32 PM EST

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12594.html

McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis asked Sunday for a meeting with Steve Capus, the president of NBC News, to protest what the campaign called signs that the network is "abandoning non-partisan coverage of the Presidential race."

Davis made the request Sunday in a letter that is part of an aggressive effort by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to counter news coverage he considers critical.

In this case, the campaign is objecting to a statement by NBC's Andrea Mitchell on "Meet the Press" questioning whether McCain might have gotten a heads-up on some of the questions that were asked of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who was the first candidate to be interviewed Saturday night by Pastor Rick Warren at a presidential forum on faith.

Warren told the audience that McCain was being held in "a cone of silence" so he wouldn't hear the questions, which were similar for both candidates.

Warren referred again to "the cone of silence" when McCain came onstage, and the senator joked: "I was trying to hear through the wall."

Mitchell reported that some "Obama people" were suggesting "that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama. He seemed so well prepared."

A McCain aide said that is not the case: "Senator McCain was in a motorcade led by the United States Secret Service and held in a green room with no broadcast feed."

Mitchell made the comment in the context of saying McCain did better, and that the Obama camp was defensive. In response to the campaign's letter, she pointed out that journalists get criticism from both sides.

"I wasn't expressing an opinion," Mitchell said. "I was reporting what they were saying."

Here is the text of the letter:

August 17, 2008
Mr. Steve Capus
President, NBC News
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112

Steve:

We are extremely disappointed to see that the level of objectivity at NBC News has fallen so low that reporters are now giving voice to unsubstantiated, partisan claims in order to undercut John McCain.

Nowhere was this more evident than with NBC chief correspondent Andrea Mitchell's comments on "Meet the Press" this morning. In analyzing last night's presidential forum at Saddleback Church, Mitchell expressed the Obama campaign spin that John McCain could only have done so well last night because he "may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama." Here are Andrea Mitchell's comments in full:

Mitchell: "The Obama people must feel that he didn't do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context, because what they are putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama. He seemed so well-prepared." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 8/17/08)

Make no mistake: This is a serious charge. Andrea Mitchell is repeating, uncritically, a completely unsubstantiated Obama campaign claim that John McCain somehow cheated in last night's forum at Saddleback Church. Instead of trying to substantiate this blatant falsehood in any way, Andrea Mitchell felt that she needed to repeat it on air to millions of "Meet the Press" viewers with no indication that 1.) There's not one shred of evidence that it's true; 2.) In his official correspondence to both campaigns, Pastor Rick Warren provided both candidates with information regarding the topic areas to be covered, which Barack Obama acknowledged during the forum when asked about Pastor Warren's idea of an emergency plan for orphans and Obama said, "I cheated a little bit. I actually looked at this idea ahead of time, and I think it is a great idea;" 3.) John McCain actually requested that he and Barack Obama do the forum together on stage at the same time, making these kinds of after-the-fact complaints moot.

Indeed, instead of taking a critical journalistic approach to this spin, Andrea Mitchell did what has become a pattern for her of simply repeating Obama campaign talking points.

This is irresponsible journalism and sadly, indicative of the level of objectivity we have witnessed at NBC News this election cycle. Instead of examining the Obama campaign's spin for truth before reporting it to more than 3 million NBC News viewers, Andrea Mitchell simply passed along Obama campaign conspiracy theories. The fact is that during Senator Obama's segment at Saddleback last night, Senator McCain was in a motorcade to the event and then held in a green room with no broadcast feed. In the forum, John McCain clearly demonstrated to the American people that he is prepared to be our next President.....

We are concerned that your News Division is following MSNBC's lead in abandoning non-partisan coverage of the Presidential race. We would like to request a meeting with you as soon as possible to discuss our deep concerns about the news standards and level of objectivity at NBC.

Sincerely,

Rick Davis
Campaign Manager
John McCain 2008

 

[JoeContrarian]

I remember when I was in high school they taught us about communist propaganda.

NBC = Pravda. (Pravda means "truth") :lolBIG:

There really isn't much difference between what is going on today with our extremist liberal media and what used to happen in the former Soviet Union with their communist propaganda.

For months, Bill O'Reilly has been beating up on NBC for their partisanship. It's true, and it's shameful. You would think that given who her husband is, Andrea Mitchell would be more careful to try to remain neutral. Guess she just can't control her Obamamania.

 

[Willie99]

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</td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-oddrow"> <td>DEMOCRAT </td><td align="right">62 </td><td align="right">67 </td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"> -203 </td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-evenrow"> <td>REPUBLICAN </td><td align="right">34 </td><td align="right">39 </td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"> +156 </td></tr><tr class="lines-contest-oddrow"> <td>OTHER



The money still thinks Obama is a big favorite and for good reason.
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Before the voting started, how big of dogs were Obama and McCain again?

Worthless

can we get a look at some of those there Obi Wan odds too? At some point, even he may have been ahead of McCain

 

[barman]

MARK protests:.....George Clooney, who -- like most Holywood libs -- doesn't even live in the US anymore.

SH: The nerve of GC...Almost as bogus as living in Toronto while continually talking about the USA as "our country".

:howdy:

 

[barman]

MARK does the math: Squarest odds I have ever seen.

SH: Yet we can count on your not even putting $100 of your own real money on such an "easy" wager as McCain at +180

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ML: Do you bet on sports?

SH: No way....Why the hell would someone spending notable time on the world's busiest sports handicapping website bet on a sporting event?

:howdy:

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe there was a coin flip to see who went first.

 

[Romanowski]

There will be riots in cities like St Paul and Detroit when McCain wins

 

[MinnesotaEconMajor]

There will be riots in cities like St Paul and Detroit when McCain wins

And Minneapolis for that matter :nohead:

 

[festeringZit]

And GTC's house in Minny

:nohead: