Let's talk about the west for 2014 and some trends around CFB

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I truly hope y'all give it some thought instead of the usual "shoot from the hip" evaluations and attitudes that only echo a square point of view or other generic opinion that reveal nothing that is happening under the surface out west. Since the changing of the guard at the conference level, all of the new TV money that's quite suddenly appeared in football budgets has already had an effect on public opinion, especially since the days of USC and the 9 dwarfs during the middle of the last decade. 10 years after the fact, one can hardly identify the conference or compare it to what it once was in the not-too-distant past.

Probably the most obvious change can be seen in the quality and cost of head coaching salaries. Bringing on Rich Rodriguez, Jim Mora, Mike Leach and Todd Graham was a strong statement to that effect. Though Leach's Cougars are still nothing to cry over, he did manage to take them bowling in just his second season running of that once-upon-a-time laughing stock of CFB. The emergence of Oregon and Stanford as two legitimate national title contenders to replace USC at the head of the class comes as a surprise to only a very few. But to see ASU and UCLA hot on their heels with USC only a year away from regaining their recruiting advantages basically puts CFB in the east on notice. Nobody has a lock on anything so be aware of being over ambitious if anyone thinks that they can go west and make their schedule pay off with easy wins against any of the best or even 2nd tier Pac-12 opponents. Even the cellar dwellers of a year ago are no easy win anymore.

I didn't start this tread with the intention of ruining anyone's day with a bunch of hype and drivel so whatever I've written up to now that might be looked upon as that will end here. I have a few observations and several legitimate concerns about where some teams are coming from and even more about where some are going in the near future that might raise some eyebrows because you could be reminded of a team close to your heart in another part of the country. Getting the fine details out into the open should help one to predict how a team might play in a given situation. That's handicapping at its finest if you'd ask me what this is all about. Predicting future trends based upon past and present tendencies that thus far have managed to fly under everyone's radar is gold to us that handicap games. It is probably my best angle of all when I am making my weekly decisions. This is why it is so important to keep abreast of every team you can -- in an honest and well informed way of course.

In the bigger picture, I have noticed a few trending tendencies that unfortunately must cut two ways if they are to count for much. Specifically in today's rant what I am bitching about is defense in the Pac-12. If anyone has noticed, over the past couple of seasons a few teams on the west coast have come up quite a ways in that department, regardless of how far ahead on the learning curve its offenses have been playing in past seasons. Teams such as Stanford and ASU have seemingly come out of nowhere to lead the nation in important defensive statistics. Even Oregon played itself up into the top 15 in several key areas on defense.

Numerous Pac-12 teams have landed or are expected to land at least one defensive player in the first round of the NFL draft. For example, Oregon State who's defense has been uncharacteristically awful vs the run lately sends DE Scott Critchen off to the NFL, likely a 1st round pick as a sophomore in the 2013 season. His loss will obviously be felt. UCLA loses its all-American linebacker Anthony Barr who could go as high as #3 in the first round. Stanford loses 2 linebackers, Trent Murphy and Shane Skove, at least one of them expected to be drafted in the first round. Then there's ASU's Will Sutton, everyone's all-American DT sure to be a 1st round pick. Among the teams hit the hardest by declaring early for the draft was USC losing 5 players including Dione Bailey (S-LB) and George Uko (DT) both of whom will be difficult to replace. The Trojans cannot exceed their 15 player scholly limit no matter who leaves. Last year the big names were still there, notably Utah losing (DL) Star Lotulelei, the 14th overall pick and Oregon losing its own linebacker/DE phenom Dion Jordan as the NFL's #3 pick.

However things have been up to now, the trend I don't like and the point of this first post is represented by 25 Pac-12 players who have declared early for the NFL draft. Most of the 25 happen to be defensemen though there are the Marquis Lees etc that hurt teams just as hard. My question to you is can you name a few out your way that have declared early and you wish they hadn't or you wish they would have stayed just one year longer to ease up on the issue? With all of the sophomores declaring these days, CFB is looking more and more like the minor leagues to the NFL. It's easy to say that CFB's loss is the NFL's gain but it just doesn't sit right with me -- especially when I see the Pac-12 at long last developing its defenses but they just go "poof" in a hot minute with so many players declaring early.
 

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Oregon and UCLA should both have pretty stout offensive teams this season. The Ducks have nine starters plus outstanding quarterback Marcus Mariota running that fast break fire drill. Oregon will entertain Michigan State, Arizona, Washington and Stanford all at home. They will miss USC and Arizona State from the South. Playing UCLA on the road could be trickey.

The Bruin's lucked out with quarterback Brett Hundley coming back for another season. With eight starters returning, Hundley should put up some big numbers on what should be a very potent offense.

Defensively, it appears Arizona State has some work to do. There will be eight, maybe nine new faces on that side of the ball.

Washington has a very manageable schedule for their new coaching staff. Five of nine conference games are at home. Two road games are against teams that are rebuilding... California and Colorado. Plus easy non-conference schedule.

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I can't believe Cal had 5 guys leave early considering they went 0-11 v. FBS schools last year. That's something you don't see every year. I imagine that will set them back a little.
 

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I'm sure that there are a lot of people who are curious to see where Chris Peterson takes UDub. I have heard no complaints coming out of Seattle about Sarkisian leaving, as one might expect under the circumstances. Interesting that Sark brought Justin Wilcox (his DC) with him to LA. I was wondering what would become of Clancy Pendergast, USC's former DC under Kiffin and Orgeron. I've been saying it here for at least 2 years that Clancy is a class act. He was the best thing Tedford had going for himself before he left Cal. He did pretty well proving himself at USC after the fact. Whoever gets Pendergast has made quite a score for themselves in the DC department. It looks like i have plenty to read up on. In the long run coaching changes mean more than players that declare or graduate. That is how I view things though our heroes don't often come from there.
 

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Conan, you mentioned increased salaries for Pac-12 head coaches in your opening post. Looks like salaries for assistant coaches may be on the rise also.

Washington's eight 'new' assistant football coaches are guaranteed a combined salary north of $3 million in their first year on Chris Peterson's staff, making them among the highest paid staff in the Pac-12 Conference. Each new coach signed a two-year deal, and each has a guaranteed raise of $15,000 in the second year. The highest paid assistant is the defensive coordinator at around $480,000.

New head coach Chris Peterson signed a five-year, $18 million deal last month, and his average annual salary is the highest known of any Pac-12 coach.

I know it's damn early for projections....but I've got Washington second to Oregon in the North.
 

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Conan, coaching salaries are out of control...especially the assistants. When Jeff Bowden was fired from FSU (about 8 years ago) he was making $155K as the OC. There are OC's making more than some head coaches at MAC schools! (a lot more!) Clawson made $400K last year at Bowling Green (now he's at Wake Forest).

Everett Withers left Ohio State as co-DC to take the head coaching job at James Madison University (1AA school in Harrisonburg, VA). He was making $580K at OSU....his salary at JMU? $325K! Talk about wanting to be a head coach badly! The previous head coach at JMU (who was fired....and won the 1AA National Title in 2004) was making $220K.

I think the PAC is poised be become the #2 conference in CFB. There will be arguments from the ACC, now that FSU is strong again, Miami is off probation, Louisville is joining, and Va Tech and Clemson are still strong. But, the PAC seems poised to be a strong #2.

I'm curious to see how Washington & USC do in their first years w/ their new coaches. I'm also curious to see if the Arizona teams improve.

What's it going to take for Washington State to get better? Better recruiting? I love their nut job coach!
 

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Conan, you mentioned increased salaries for Pac-12 head coaches in your opening post. Looks like salaries for assistant coaches may be on the rise also.

Washington's eight 'new' assistant football coaches are guaranteed a combined salary north of $3 million in their first year on Chris Peterson's staff, making them among the highest paid staff in the Pac-12 Conference. Each new coach signed a two-year deal, and each has a guaranteed raise of $15,000 in the second year. The highest paid assistant is the defensive coordinator at around $480,000.

New head coach Chris Peterson signed a five-year, $18 million deal last month, and his average annual salary is the highest known of any Pac-12 coach.

I know it's damn early for projections....but I've got Washington second to Oregon in the North.
The only problem I have with that idea is that this will Peterson's first year. Otherwise, Stanford will be taking a major hit by comparison to other teams with respect to their greatest strengths, especially at LB and the rest of their defense, not to forget about the linemen he comes away with to start every season. I say that with little or no reservation because Shaw has been developing Cardinal line depth perhaps better than anyone including Oregon and UCLA. The jury is still in deliberations in Palo Alto as far as my precise knowledge of the situation is concerned. Just be careful not to underestimate David Shaw. You may not see very many top 300 players recruited by his staff but that doesn't mean he can't get what he wants... not by a long shot.
 

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I think Peterson will be an improvement which makes me wonder if USC is really getting the best of the deal. With UCLA on a rise USC may be pressed even on the local level. Meanwhile you are right on with Arizona, Arizona St on the rise and Stanford may have a system going on that makes it easier to replace players. The SEC took it on the chin losing to the ACC in the NC game and OU beating Bama. I think the key is going to turn a little on defenses slowly catching up with the offenses. Spread or no spread there are only so many plays and eventually defenses will adapt although the offenses have a good head start. QB's are still the key but any team that can consistently rush the passer have a shot at evening the odds.

Players seem to be flocking towards the money and who can blame them. More players than ever going to the draft this year and it will probably increase every year from now on. All those players leaving Cal is a little shocking, maybe they know something we don't. lol
 

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The only problem I have with that idea is that this will Peterson's first year. Otherwise, Stanford will be taking a major hit by comparison to other teams with respect to their greatest strengths, especially at LB and the rest of their defense, not to forget about the linemen he comes away with to start every season. I say that with little or no reservation because Shaw has been developing Cardinal line depth perhaps better than anyone including Oregon and UCLA. The jury is still in deliberations in Palo Alto as far as my precise knowledge of the situation is concerned. Just be careful not to underestimate David Shaw. You may not see very many top 300 players recruited by his staff but that doesn't mean he can't get what he wants... not by a long shot.
The OL is probably the least of Stanford's problems. Shaw reminds me a little of Bielema when he was at Wisconsin. He had a coaching staff that could develop mostly under recruited linemen better than any school in the country. Given that Stanford hasn't recruited all that well overall for the last couple of years, they'll need all of the development they can get. I don't say that lightly either. Offensive linemen are about the hardest to evaluate coming out of highschool than any other position on the field. Many think that because a player is 300 pounds coming out of highschool that he is a candidate for instant success, when in fact it's just the opposite. Most kids that I've seen that weight 300 pounds in highschool are mainly just slow fat guys. I know at Oklahoma, Stoops looks for the kids in the 250-275 pound range that have much more mobility and quickness off the line. Then he redshirts most of them, develops them, and bulks them up to 300 pounds. The thing that makes offensive linemen an iffy proposition is that many don't get to make their first true start until they are a junior. So we're talking about 3 years between when a player steps off the highschool field until he plays again in a meaningful capacity. Coaches just have to pray that the kid's balls drop and he fills out and becomes what he wants them to be by the time his other starters graduate. It doesn't always happen the way the coaches planned. That's what makes it hard to consistently have a good offensive line season after season. There are usually a share of duds in the mix that simply don't pan out. I know OU has had their share. So I give Stanford a lot of credit for maintaining their excellence at that position over the years.
 

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It will be interesting to see what the "rookie" coach from Oregon has learned from his experiences from last year as he prepares for his "sophomore"
year with the "Ducks" who will have a lofty ranking in the pre-season polls. Oregon is still loaded and has the "fire-power" to beat any team on their 2014 schedule; Look at their home schedule for starters: Michigan State (OOC) early in the year (a chance to set the stage early) and Stanford (talk about pay-back time), Washington and Arizona (more pay-back time). The big challenge on the road for the Duck will come on October 11 against UCLA (no USC or ASU this year......very interesting). Their QB (a pre-season Heisman candidate) will have learned a lot as well.......his speed and his newly acquired experience will bring a new dimension to his game during his Junior year....the Ducks and their fans will be the beneficiaries......(hopefully, some of us sports bettors also).....ha...

12 game (big-time college football schedules) and conference championship games and now, the play-playoffs for those teams with the right W/L record come late November, will have new challenges for their coaches to deal with and it wont be just X's an O's and blocking and tackling.....It will become a matter of survival...... who will be the "last team standing" physically and mentally ....ah, college age kids.......it might not be pretty. Look how the professionals handle
16 game schedules plus the play-offs....many times it ends up being as ugly as sin (i.e. Super Bowl games).
 

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Mack, ugly Super Bowls is a relative thing in some cases. If you expected more out of Manning than you got, yes that was some pretty ugly stuff that came down last Sunday. But if you were figuring that Pete Carroll's defensive knowledge and talents would result in Seattle succeeding in stopping Manning despite the numerous flubs, shutting down Denver's powerful offense was nevertheless a thing of beauty.

Don't forget that last year was like watching 2 different quarterbacks if you followed Mariota very closely. Recall at the start of the season and for about 2 months into it he was the Heisman frontrunner. But around the 9th week of the season, Mariota hurt his leg and that affected not just his speed but also his throwing accuracy. He had some kind of remarkable streak going without throwing a single pick up to that time. But playing injured, he was a completely different quarterback as the season wound down. However by the time the Ducks and Whorns wound up playing each other in the Alamo Bowl, the kid was back healed up and 100% healthy and look at what happened. That was very predictable. If he manages to stay healthy all season in 2014, IMHO he'll win the Heisman.
 

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Conan, I have to agree with you about Mariota. If he stays healthy, he has a great chance to win the Heisman. Not sure Oregon could have a better college QB running that offense. Lot of experience on the offensive side so the Ducks certainly will be worth a ticket if one likes offense.

If a person likes defense, Stanford's the ticket. Shaw had a nice recruiting class this season and the winning should continue with the Cards. The man has done a really good job after replacing Harbaugh. I love the way his staff coaches defense! Those white boys can play some D.
 

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Clover: I've always felt [big] white-boys especially if they come from the farm (ha), and you feed them right, can play defense. Of course the "speed element"
is questioned when ethnicities enter into the analysis.
 

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It will be interesting to see if Oregon's Mark Helfrich can keep the gravy train rolling for the Ducks. Last season, Helfrich's debut was more of the same as produced by Chip Kelley (11-2 record and bowl win). Helfrich (defense background) took over for Kelly (offense first) and didn't miss a beat. His offense ranked No. 3 in scoring and total offense. The improvement came on defense (as one might expect) from 48th in 2012, and 67th in 2011 to a more productive 33rd during 2013.

Look for 2014 to be more of the same. The offense should be top five again and I look for steady improvement in the defense. Ole defensive coordinators will be more hands on with that side of the ball....regardless of being head coach
 

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It will be interesting to see if Oregon's Mark Helfrich can keep the gravy train rolling for the Ducks. Last season, Helfrich's debut was more of the same as produced by Chip Kelley (11-2 record and bowl win). Helfrich (defense background) took over for Kelly (offense first) and didn't miss a beat. His offense ranked No. 3 in scoring and total offense. The improvement came on defense (as one might expect) from 48th in 2012, and 67th in 2011 to a more productive 33rd during 2013.

Look for 2014 to be more of the same. The offense should be top five again and I look for steady improvement in the defense. Ole defensive coordinators will be more hands on with that side of the ball....regardless of being head coach

Helfrich's background is offense...was OC there before getting coaching gig
 

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I think you've gotten your signals mixed CL. Helfrich was Kelly's OC as Kelly was Belotti's OC before he was promoted to HC. A head coach coming from the defensive staff seems like a no-no at Oregon lately.

Going back quite a ways I remember a lot of great QB's who put out and a team that scored plenty down through the years. But it was Aliotti's damned defense that blew lots of leads and gave up the ghost way too often for me to hold him in as high a regard as he was honored upon his recent retirement. Bend but don't break being his so-called defensive mantra didn't cut it for me. The Ducks lost too many games thanks to that defensive philosophy. Very frustrating.... very un"Kellylike" too.

It's worth mentioning that the year before Kelly left, he hired Jerry Azzinaro to be his DLC. Jerry's voice could be heard above everyone at Duck practices. He was quite the character as he energized not only Oregon's DL but the rest of their defense too. They became much more aggressive which was what Kelly hired him for. It was fun to watch them fly around the field making plays stopping offenses that would have gone for yards and more yards before he arrived. I read where Alliotti was questioned about the difference on the field and his team's much more aggressive style. Basically he went along with it. But after Kelly left and took Azzinaro with him to Philly, I could see that with Alliotti's influence lacking the Azzinaro touch, their defense regressed somewhat. That was last season. My hope is that with Alliotti's "timely" (coincidental) retirement, and with Don Pellum being promoted from the ranks of position coaches to be Oregon's new DC, things will again move away from Alliotti's influence. I am deadly serious about this. He was honored for his longevity as some kind of great DC but as far as I'm concerned, there was just too much disappointment for me to agree. I have said for years that if Oregon could put together a defense that was as good as its offense, they would win a NC. Thus far all I can lay claim to is "almost." With Alliotti gone, there's some hope that it can happen.

So Helfrich follows in the footsteps of Oregon's last 2 head coaches. Mike Bellotti was Rich Brooks OC and was promoted to HC when Brooks left to coach the St. Louis Rams in '95. (Rich Brooks worked with defenses prior to his being named Oregon's HC.) Kelly was hired to be Bellotti's OC and was promoted to HC when Bellotti retired and became Oregon's AD for a while. Helfrich was Kelly's OC before he got the head coaching job. If the trend holds up, Scott Frost, Helfrich's OC is next. We'll see.
 

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My bad...for some reason I thought coach Helfrich was Kelly's defensive coordinator.

Hell, no wonder the Ducks didnt miss a beat on offense last year. Nine of those guys are back
so expect more of the same.
 

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There's also been a ton of talk about both Zona's returning plenty this year which should liven things up in the southern division. Not just UCLA who has become a serious contender by winning the south 2 of 3 years since a Pac-12 CG became a reality, but USC with Sarkisian on top of things (we assume that he will be) is still deep enough in talent to be taken seriously. After all, they did beat Stanford last year. So now there is a potential dog fight among 4 teams in the south any of whom can become a problem for either Stanford or Oregon, though I wouldn't say that it is likely to be as simple as that in every matchup. Scheduling will weigh heavily into the final outcome for all 6 teams I mentioned. For the sake of ratings, perhaps it would be a good idea for a team that expects to be a contender to play more of its better competition earlier and save perhaps just one or possibly two good opponents at home for later in the year. It's much easier to recover from an early loss than a late one. I have no clue at this point how the schedules shake out, but I'll find the time to check all that out soon enough.

Having the best QB on any given Saturday throughout the season will likely prove to be the most important determining factor in who wins out. Sure, there are exceptions, but they'd better be more than just good ones. I have noticed that emphasis on QB talent has gained more value on some key SEC teams' rosters and in offensive game plans too as of late. You can't just depend on a stout defense and an "adequate" QB to execute your offense the way it's been done in large part in recent years. That's what guys like Johnny Manziel and Jameis Winston can drill into your coach's head... a big reminder. In the Pac, there are 3 good dual threat QBs playing on the 6 contenders that I mentioned above. Taylor Kelly for ASU will be back this year as well as Marcus Mariota for the Ducks. The decision by Bret Hundley (UCLA) to return for the 2014 season could also weigh heavily into how the Pac-12 2014 season plays itself out.
 

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Anyone that thinks Oregon is going to continue to be the cheaters they were with Chip Kelly doesn't know college football. That program is done, over. Helfrich is a junior high HC compared to Chip Kelly. It'll show this season how far they will have fallen. Oregon might win 8 games this year but after that they'll be back to what they've been for the history of their program (30 years or so)? With the inability to pay recruits out of Texas and the shine off their program USC and UCLA will once again rule the PAC 16.
 

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JB.....I never realized that Oregon (under any head-coach) seriously recruited down in Texas......I always thought they (pretty much) kept most of their recruiting efforts West of the Rockies.......Pac 10 territory (which makes sense). I will try and research the Oregon roster and see if they have any players from the South-East i.e. Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, et al. I would be surprised to find any players on the Oregon roster that are from these fertile recruiting grounds listed. In any event, all is fair in love and war.
 

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