Let's say coach Pete plays the game like how we think he should've

[shdw01]

2nd and goal from the 1...instead of the slant-interception, we hand the ball off to lynch. Let's say they stop him.

3rd and goal 20 seconds to go....now what?

1) Do you call your last timeout? (I imagine you have to)
2) What do you run on 3rd down? (I assume no timeouts you have to pass)
3) if no score, what do you run on 4th down?

 

[Acebb]

-- It would have been 3rd & goal with about 16 seconds left.
Timeout

3rd down --> Play action, read option, or bootleg pass into end zone. Approximate time left :07

4th down --> Run Lynch

Pete goofed this up, royally. The more time I've had to think about it, the worse it looks. His explanation of "their defensive package" was nonsense as they had 3 DB's on the field. Why pass when you don't have to?

 

[GoSooners]

Run/pass option bootleg with Wilson. They could have even done this on second down if they didn't want to hand off to Lynch. Most likely Wilson would have had an open receiver in the endzone. If not he could have thrown it away to stop the clock instead of throwing to the middle of the field in a crowd of players where any number of bad things could happen, and did happen..

 

[shdw01]

-- It would have been 3rd & goal with about 16 seconds left.
Timeout

3rd down --> Play action, read option, or bootleg pass into end zone. Approximate time left :07

4th down --> Run Lynch

Pete goofed this up, royally. The more time I've had to think about it, the worse it looks. His explanation of "their defensive package" was nonsense as they had 3 DB's on the field. Why pass when you don't have to?

I probably do the exact same thing as you listed....but 4th and goal from the 1 with 7 sec to go.....I think handing the ball off here would get a lot of criticism as well....

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

I call my timeout, then run playaction to Lynch, everyone bites; then I have Luke Wilson run paralell behind the line of scrimmage (hasn't caught a pass all night) he gets lossed in the mess, Wilson hits him in the front corner of the end zone wide open.

 

[shdw01]

I call my timeout, then run playaction to Lynch, everyone bites; then I have Luke Wilson run paralell behind the line of scrimmage (hasn't caught a pass all night) he gets lossed in the mess, Wilson hits him in the front corner of the end zone wide open.

okay..let's say wilson drops it (super bowl jitters)

what do you do on 4th down?

 

[shdw01]

I don't have a better play call there but i think my point is that on 2nd and 3rd down you are running one play and passing one play....he just had it in reverse order as all of us second guessers

 

[GoSooners]

Actually this isn't the first time that Petey has done this. Ten years ago USC had a 4th and less than one against Texas in the Championship Game and he elected not to hand off to his best RB Reggie Bush, and they failed to convert...

 

[Ladeda]

Not trying to defend anyone here. But the stat I head last night was that Lynch from the 1 yard line this year was stopped 4 times and scored just once. So the run play to Lynch everyone is crying over only scored 20% of the time. 1 out of 5 times it worked.

Obviously a small sample size but it's just silly that everyone thinks because he is a beast he scores all the time from the one. Fact is no matter how big a beast he is from the one with the defense geared up to stop the run the odds aren't that great on a run, no matter the team or player.

 

[GoSooners]

To me it wasn't as much not handing to Lynch as it was in trying to run the riskiest play in the playbook when all of the defenders are on the line, and your trying to thread a pass into the middle of the field. It was also a mistake to line up in the shotgun. This pretty much tells the defense that the possibility of a Lynch hand off was pretty remote. So it's not just about not handing off to Lynch. It's the play calling in general that I have a problem with.

 

[Acebb]

Take a look at this

Much different than what you saw on live on tv, huh?

Also, imagine if the receiver stopped on a dime and turned back toward the pylon...

Also note, Lynch was wide open.

 

[lt56]

you have to score the winning TD before you start worrying about the clock. it's the fucking superbowl. at the very worst you give Brady 45 seconds. i would rather do that than assuming i am going to score a TD and worrying about the clock. teams do this all the time. they start to manage the clock when they need a TD to win. that is insane. a field goal to win is a different situation. they should have scored as soon as possible and taken their chances on getting tied. a TD is never a sure thing. get it when you can. don't outsmart yourself. 2 quick read/run plays and the last timeout on 4th down if needed. i doubt that it would even take 2 plays to get it in. that is Seattle's strength.

 

[Acebb]

okay..let's say wilson drops it (super bowl jitters)

what do you do on 4th down?

You give it to one of the best runners in the NFL and live or die with the decision. You can't be throwing to these receivers it isn't as if Seattle was trying to get the ball to Jerry Rice or Fred Boletnikoff out there.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

I don't have a better play call there but i think my point is that on 2nd and 3rd down you are running one play and passing one play....he just had it in reverse order as all of us second guessers

So my play would have worked, you are just saying he drops it.... Well, I wouldn't run a fade that is for sure.( I hate fades) I might be tempted to just run a power toss left or right and count on Lynch to bulldoze for 1 yard. Power tosses work great in the NFL. More teams should run them. I would run it to the strong side of the field. Let him choose when he wants to cut for that 1 freakin yard. If I am going to lose, lose with my best player. All he has to do is get back to the 2 and dive. Maybe run a fake jet sweep the other way before you toss to get that extra half step

I will admit, I have contemplated this. and I didn't have a rooting interest except for my bet.

 

[lt56]

Take a look at this

Much different than what you saw on live on tv, huh?

Also, imagine if the receiver stopped on a dime and turned back toward the pylon...

Also note, Lynch was wide open.

what that shows is the receiver is at the 2/half yd line. what it doesn't show you is the NE DB is on a full sprint jumping the route. i'm not sure how lynch is open and receivers run the route called. it isn't a playground. the whole point is throwing the ball in any manner in that situation is insane.

 

[lt56]

So my play would have worked, you are just saying he drops it.... Well, I wouldn't run a fade that is for sure.( I hate fades) I might be tempted to just run a power toss left or right and count on Lynch to bulldoze for 1 yard. Power tosses work great in the NFL. More teams should run them. I would run it to the strong side of the field. Let him choose when he wants to cut for that 1 freakin yard. If I am going to lose, lose with my best player. All he has to do is get back to the 2 and dive. Maybe run a fake jet sweep the other way before you toss to get that extra half step

I will admit, I have contemplated this. and I didn't have a rooting interest except for my bet.

why is everyone trying to re-invent the wheel here. it is run/read with lynch and wilson til you win or lose. it's that simple. i think they get in on the 1st try. that is their wheelhouse.

 

[shdw01]

you have to score the winning TD before you start worrying about the clock. it's the fucking superbowl. at the very worst you give Brady 45 seconds. i would rather do that than assuming i am going to score a TD and worrying about the clock. teams do this all the time. they start to manage the clock when they need a TD to win. that is insane. a field goal to win is a different situation. they should have scored as soon as possible and taken their chances on getting tied. a TD is never a sure thing. get it when you can. don't outsmart yourself. 2 quick read/run plays and the last timeout on 4th down if needed. i doubt that it would even take 2 plays to get it in. that is Seattle's strength.

I'm not sure they had enough time for this

 

[GoSooners]

It's not that hard. If you don't run the best power back in the country up the middle, you play action throwing outside or bootleg the QB, who in this case is a second dangerous RB in the backfield. Throwing it into the teeth of the defense, stacked against the run, will get you a one way ticket back to college football...

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

Left side was wide open. No way Hightower beats him to corner.

It's all easy to say now. To be honest, it should be all on Wilson. Is he to stupid to audible or at least throw it low where only his guy could get it or be incomplete

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

If Peyton was back there, he would have ran it left to Lynch. Just sayin. Look at the defense. run left was set up great