LeBron, Kobe on Finals collision course ??

Search
Joined
Jan 17, 2007
Messages
99,709
Tokens
LeBron, Kobe on Finals collision course

Only one can rule, and a title showdown is needed to decide who's king


HLG_Kobe_v_Lebron.jpg


By Michael Ventre
NBCSports.com contributor
updated 8:56 p.m. ET, Wed., April 15, 2009

In another century, they might be two ambitious princes, with eyes on expanding their empires and solidifying their legacies. Instead, they are two NBA superstars, with eyes on expanding their empires and solidifying their legacies.

Yet their princely stature is present. Kobe Bryant and LeBron James reign over the Western and Eastern portions of the basketball nation, respectively. They were the two most incandescent stars of the U.S. men's basketball team's gold-medal effort at the Beijing Olympics. They went into that derby with mutual respect and emerged as great friends.
But each goes into the 2009 NBA playoffs with a lust for power that negates the niceties of international all-star teamwork. Bryant has three rings, but none without the help of nemesis-turned-Twitterer Shaquille O’Neal. James has a considerable amount of jewelry, but no gaudy hunks of gold with "NBA Champions" on them.

They are both on a quest, but only one can survive. If this sounds like a reality show in which the contestants go to any lengths to get the big prize, it is.
Bryant has been on a crusade to win a Shaq-less title. He won’t admit it, of course. He won’t acknowledge that he has a blank space on his resume. He won’t concede that the three championship teams he was on were not Kobe-centric. He might even deny that Shaq ever existed, at least as a Lakers teammate.
But hoop sleuths can put together the pieces. When Kobe was a free agent in 2004, he re-signed with Los Angeles only after Shaq was traded to Miami, and Phil Jackson was let go as head coach. That was an admission by Lakers' brass that Kobe demanded to be The Man, and owner Jerry Buss and his underlings agreed to those terms.

Kobe also blew up in the spring of 2007 in the now-infamous radio talk show tour, during which he ripped the Lakers for not doing enough to build a championship team. Translation: I came back to lead a team to a title on my own, and I’m not happy.
Since then, he has been a model citizen, leader and teammate, helped in no small part by a masterful rebuilding of the roster by general manager Mitch Kupchak. The piece de resistance was the heist of Pau Gasol from Memphis in exchange for a bag of pretzels (a.k.a., Kwame Brown). After falling short in last year’s NBA Finals to a superior and more experienced Boston Celtics squad, the Lakers are now poised to help Kobe achieve his regal aspirations.

Meanwhile in Cleveland, LeBron wallows in a prison of endorsement deals and non-championship adoration. He is really King James in the East, and his every move is chronicled as closely as if he were a head of state. In a way, he is.
The Cleveland Indians haven’t won a World Series since 1948. The Cleveland Browns haven’t won an NFL title since 1964. The Cavaliers have never won an NBA crown. The city would gladly trade the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and a landmark to be named later for one measly championship. Since it can’t do that, and since the Indians and Browns are not favored to win titles in their upcoming seasons, the people of Cleveland are looking to LeBron James to lead them.
Whereas Kobe is eager to further cement his reputation in the already championship-rich folklore of the Los Angeles Lakers, LeBron carries the expectations and pressures of Cleveland’s huddled masses yearning for a parade.

Right now it looks good. The Cavaliers secured the NBA’s best record. And the Celtics have stumbled a bit. Chances are Gang Green will be fit and focused when the playoffs begin; life as defending champions tends to be riddled with potholes and hindrances during the tortuously long regular season, but when the postseason starts and the end is visible, champions tend to rediscover their mojo.
There are also challenges to LeBron’s notion of manifest destiny in the East from the likes of the Orlando Magic, and to a lesser extent, the Miami Heat and Atlanta Hawks. Chances are, though, that the Cavs and Celtics will brawl in the Eastern Conference finals, and Cleveland will enjoy the home-court advantage — the Cavs have lost only once on their home floor this season.

If the Lakers can thrash their way through a daunting collection of possible Western Conference playoff aspirants — the Utah Jazz might be particularly nettlesome, while the Trail Blazers, although not deemed ready for the big enchilada quite yet, are almost impossible for the Lakers to beat in Portland — it could set up a marketer’s dream scenario:
Kobe versus LeBron, for the whole thing.
That Finals would create an entirely new dynamic to their friendship/rivalry. If Kobe won, he would then be a four-time champion as well as the acknowledged Greatest Player on Earth. He would have all the power and all the glory — and as far as power is concerned, remember that he can opt out of his contract after this season. He could opt out as leader of the defending champions and make the Lakers squirm before signing a maximum deal.

If LeBron won, then he would not only have his Holy Grail while providing the fans of Cleveland with boundless joy, he could also say that he, as unquestioned leader, led his team to a championship while Kobe, as unquestioned leader, wasn’t able to do so. And after winning the crown, if LeBron and his minions are extra audacious, they might even pillage Kobe’s "Greatest Player" standing.
There are many scenarios that would ensure a satisfying NBA Finals matchup this year. But only one that matches Kobe and LeBron would promise the high drama that comes when royalty duels with royalty.
 
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
45,000
Tokens
F Kobe.


Somehow I don't ever think I'll see LeBron cock and slam
his elbow into an opponents face like Kobe has done
repeatedly in his career.

Notice here how in the closing seconds of this
crucial playoff game, Kobe deliberately
cocks and slams his elbow into Bibby's face right in front
of the ref, as the ref swallows his whistle - as the refs did
all game long. Well, except for the 27 free throws the Lakers
got in the 4th quarter alone in that game.


(see 2:40 -> 3:00 mark in video )

<object width="425" height="344">

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/y4t5RMFt5u8&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>
 

Official Rx music critic and beer snob
Joined
Jun 21, 2003
Messages
25,128
Tokens
stern don't need it. nba is not a league where they need matches to get ratings.

Basketball matchups are reliant on matchups the most. Mainly because of the finals being held at 9:00 pm in the east at the start of summer.
 

New member
Joined
Jul 21, 2006
Messages
12,563
Tokens
you're right.. a philadelphia vs utah final would be just as big of a ratings draw...

right, like that matchup is going to happen. at least be realistic when you throw out dumb stuff like the nba needing it. the nba is fine.

your league, the nhl needs matchups.
 

Self appointed RX World Champion Handicapper
Joined
Nov 20, 2001
Messages
15,052
Tokens
right, like that matchup is going to happen. at least be realistic when you throw out dumb stuff like the nba needing it. the nba is fine.

your league, the nhl needs matchups.



the only dumb stuff being thrown out is when youre saying stern doesnt care if lebron play against kobe in the finals .

try some reality yourself...
 

Official Rx music critic and beer snob
Joined
Jun 21, 2003
Messages
25,128
Tokens
right, like that matchup is going to happen. at least be realistic when you throw out dumb stuff like the nba needing it. the nba is fine.

your league, the nhl needs matchups.

No they dont. Nobody watches the NHL, remember?
 

New member
Joined
Jul 21, 2006
Messages
12,563
Tokens
the only dumb stuff being thrown out is when youre saying stern doesnt care if lebron play against kobe in the finals .

try some reality yourself...

your a hockey guy, you don't get matchup talk. stick with your nhl.
 

New member
Joined
Jul 21, 2006
Messages
12,563
Tokens
just off the top of my head i could name solid matchups that you say the NBA needs so much.

Bynum vs. Howard: two top young centers.
wade vs. kobe: wade is as dominant as lebron.
paul vs. rose: real coming out party for paul, rose the up and comer.
roy vs. wade: roy, real underrated guy vs. wade.
yao vs. howard: king of china vs. howard
carmelo vs. wade
joe johnson vs. kobe

while nothing can surpass lebron vs. kobe, just because the media is pushing it so damn much, these other potential matchups would be solid.
 

Official Rx music critic and beer snob
Joined
Jun 21, 2003
Messages
25,128
Tokens
Bynum has the star power of Martin Havlat. Roy or Johnson are not must-see either.
 

New member
Joined
Jul 21, 2006
Messages
12,563
Tokens
actually roy is a great player. he is not labeled must-see because he hasn't been seen much. he'll move into that level this post-season.
 

Official Rx music critic and beer snob
Joined
Jun 21, 2003
Messages
25,128
Tokens
actually roy is a great player. he is not labeled must-see because he hasn't been seen much. he'll move into that level this post-season.

We know that. Network execs dont. I am very interested in how Rose does vs Rondo.
 

I say vee cut off your Chonson !!!!
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
5,446
Tokens
Roy is a stud ... He's making people notice too, and then ones that haven't probably haven't been paying much attention.

In three years in league
2 Time Allstar
Rookie of the Year 2006-07
10th in the league in scoring this year
Dropped 52 on Suns in December

Career averages of 19.8 pts

and this year averaged 22.6 pts , 5.1 assists , 4.7 rebounds
which puts him in the same category as this group of players in the last 20 years

Dwayne Wade ( 4 times )
Paul Peirce ( 1 time )
Chris Webber (1 time )
Gary Payton ( 1 time )
Chris Paul ( 1 )
Tracy Mcgrady ( 5 )
Michael Jordan (5)
Lebron James ( 5 )
Grant Hill , Garnett , Finly , Drexler ( 1 )
Kobe Bryant ( 6 )
Barkly , Arenas , A Walker ( 1 )

Pretty good company in my opinion.
 

New member
Joined
Jul 21, 2006
Messages
12,563
Tokens
i still regret to this day when my wolves traded roy in the draft.

we had him. we drafted him. then we trade him for foye and a million bucks. worst move in wolves history.

god im glad mchale is out as GM.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,119,858
Messages
13,574,233
Members
100,878
Latest member
fo88giftt
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com