<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:
i can feel the vitali/sanders odds dropping as i type....
tough break,tony...lots of action in the next few weeks....you`ll get it back...
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Thank you sphincter.
Very strange fight.
BTW what to you think of Rivera vs mayorga ?
I believe + 600 are way to high in my opinion :
mayorga talking about trinidad already.
Second I believe Mayorga is a victim of his own hype.
He has a good chin and hits hard, but he is wild and can be outboxed and I believe he also can get knocked down if someone catches him coming in.
About Rivera :
very solid nothing outstanding, the things i like most are his chin ( he was never down and took the shots from trabant (last fight) without even flinching)
very good condition.
he is not a scared fighter
he can punch too but not like mayorga.
He is a down to earth guy with day job who knows this is his one big chance to make it.
The bad thing about him he is there to be hit but i believe that his chin is very solid.
Books believe also in his chin over/under is a pick`em.
Rivera is a very live dog against everybodys darling mayorga. Hope the judges are fair.
Byrd vs Golota
I stay away from Byrd. Golota really wants it he is fighting for peanuts 150k and is in good physical condition right now. He has power and a good jab and is the natural bigger guy.
Though is or was a nutcase. But i am not betting on Golota to walk away or getting dq.
I would take the over 11 at even money, because Byrd is durable and he cant take Golota out.
Golota at +300 and over at -110 are good plays IMO.
Urkal vs harris
I am with Urkal at even money. Urkal is a quality fighter with good defense and a rocksolid chin + this fight is in germany and this fight will be close and Sauerland needs a new fighter after Ottke retires (thank god).
this fight goes the distance too since urkal cant punch.
i can feel the vitali/sanders odds dropping as i type....
tough break,tony...lots of action in the next few weeks....you`ll get it back...
Thank you sphincter.
Very strange fight.
BTW what to you think of Rivera vs mayorga ?
I believe + 600 are way to high in my opinion :
mayorga talking about trinidad already.
Second I believe Mayorga is a victim of his own hype.
He has a good chin and hits hard, but he is wild and can be outboxed and I believe he also can get knocked down if someone catches him coming in.
About Rivera :
very solid nothing outstanding, the things i like most are his chin ( he was never down and took the shots from trabant (last fight) without even flinching)
very good condition.
he is not a scared fighter
he can punch too but not like mayorga.
He is a down to earth guy with day job who knows this is his one big chance to make it.
The bad thing about him he is there to be hit but i believe that his chin is very solid.
Books believe also in his chin over/under is a pick`em.
Rivera is a very live dog against everybodys darling mayorga. Hope the judges are fair.
Byrd vs Golota
I stay away from Byrd. Golota really wants it he is fighting for peanuts 150k and is in good physical condition right now. He has power and a good jab and is the natural bigger guy.
Though is or was a nutcase. But i am not betting on Golota to walk away or getting dq.
I would take the over 11 at even money, because Byrd is durable and he cant take Golota out.
Golota at +300 and over at -110 are good plays IMO.
Urkal vs harris
I am with Urkal at even money. Urkal is a quality fighter with good defense and a rocksolid chin + this fight is in germany and this fight will be close and Sauerland needs a new fighter after Ottke retires (thank god).
this fight goes the distance too since urkal cant punch.
i hit the over on harris/urkal early on....and i have to admit that i am looking hard at a small wager on rivera at around +600.....i`m holding back,though...
rivera,as you stated,does nothing outstanding...his best attribute is his toughness and chin...and he doesn`t quit..
his opposition is weak...the usual stuff you see on the records of most"regional"fighters.....
he does have a win over teddy reid...and reid can punch...
the thing that`s holding me back here is that if this goes to decision,rivera won`t win....king is absolutely creaming his pants over a potential mayorga/trinidad fight....mayorga is still a cash cow....if he loses to rivera,that`ll pretty much be it...
i was really looking at the over...but,other than reid,i don`t see many bangers on rivera`s resume...
a dog i am looking at is davarryl williamson at+325 at 5 dimes....he`s not a "heavy" heavyweight.....but he`s tall(6`4")...and he hits like a mule...he`s not fighting a heavy punching,much bigger guy this time....
castillo is a worlkhorse.....cuban....a smallish lefty heavyweight(6`1")...he works hard...he`s tough...but,he`s not a huge puncher...
i think the mesi k.o. of williamson gave this line some value...
castillo could outwork williamson....he`s on a roll......but,i don`t think williamson is a quitter...i think he has a shot...i just think over 3-1 is a bit much...
i`m waiting for a few more lines to post...
g.l.
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM.]
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:32 PM.]
rivera,as you stated,does nothing outstanding...his best attribute is his toughness and chin...and he doesn`t quit..
his opposition is weak...the usual stuff you see on the records of most"regional"fighters.....
he does have a win over teddy reid...and reid can punch...
the thing that`s holding me back here is that if this goes to decision,rivera won`t win....king is absolutely creaming his pants over a potential mayorga/trinidad fight....mayorga is still a cash cow....if he loses to rivera,that`ll pretty much be it...
i was really looking at the over...but,other than reid,i don`t see many bangers on rivera`s resume...
a dog i am looking at is davarryl williamson at+325 at 5 dimes....he`s not a "heavy" heavyweight.....but he`s tall(6`4")...and he hits like a mule...he`s not fighting a heavy punching,much bigger guy this time....
castillo is a worlkhorse.....cuban....a smallish lefty heavyweight(6`1")...he works hard...he`s tough...but,he`s not a huge puncher...
i think the mesi k.o. of williamson gave this line some value...
castillo could outwork williamson....he`s on a roll......but,i don`t think williamson is a quitter...i think he has a shot...i just think over 3-1 is a bit much...
i`m waiting for a few more lines to post...
g.l.
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM.]
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:32 PM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:
i hit the over on harris/urkal early on....and i have to admit that i am looking hard at a small wager on rivera at around +600.....i`m holding back,though...
rivera,as you stated,does nothing outstanding...his best attribute is his toughness and chin...and he doesn`t quit..
his opposition is weak...the usual stuff you see on the records of most"regional"fighters.....
he does have a win over teddy reid...and reid can punch...
the thing that`s holding me back here is that if this goes to decision,rivera won`t win....king is absolutely creaming his pants over a potential mayorga/trinidad fight....mayorga is still a cash cow....if he loses to rivera,that`ll pretty much be it...
i was really looking at the over...but,other than reid,i don`t see many bangers on rivera`s resume...
a dog i am looking at is davarryl williamson at+325 at 5 dimes....he`s not a "heavy" heavyweight.....but he`s tall(6`4")...and he hits like a mule...he`s not fighting a heavy punching,much bigger guy this time....
castillo is a worlkhorse.....cuban....a smallish lefty heavyweight(6`1")...he works hard...he`s tough...but,he`s not a huge puncher...
i think the mesi k.o. of williamson gave this line some value...
castillo could outwork williamson....he`s on a roll......but,i don`t think williamson is a quitter...i think he has a shot...i just think over 3-1 is a bit much...
i`m waiting for a few more lines to post...
g.l.
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM.]
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:32 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am on williamson too.
I was just to lazy to write.
Take the mesi fight away and this would be a pick em fight. The last guy williamson fought was better than his record he koed him in the 9,but had some problems early on.
Castillo has a very good chin. I dont believe TOS will knock him out but maybe. But Castillo can be outboxed and he is not constant in his performances. Willamson was sparring with Byrd who should be a good preparation for castillo.
check out wsex for a good price on TOS.
i hit the over on harris/urkal early on....and i have to admit that i am looking hard at a small wager on rivera at around +600.....i`m holding back,though...
rivera,as you stated,does nothing outstanding...his best attribute is his toughness and chin...and he doesn`t quit..
his opposition is weak...the usual stuff you see on the records of most"regional"fighters.....
he does have a win over teddy reid...and reid can punch...
the thing that`s holding me back here is that if this goes to decision,rivera won`t win....king is absolutely creaming his pants over a potential mayorga/trinidad fight....mayorga is still a cash cow....if he loses to rivera,that`ll pretty much be it...
i was really looking at the over...but,other than reid,i don`t see many bangers on rivera`s resume...
a dog i am looking at is davarryl williamson at+325 at 5 dimes....he`s not a "heavy" heavyweight.....but he`s tall(6`4")...and he hits like a mule...he`s not fighting a heavy punching,much bigger guy this time....
castillo is a worlkhorse.....cuban....a smallish lefty heavyweight(6`1")...he works hard...he`s tough...but,he`s not a huge puncher...
i think the mesi k.o. of williamson gave this line some value...
castillo could outwork williamson....he`s on a roll......but,i don`t think williamson is a quitter...i think he has a shot...i just think over 3-1 is a bit much...
i`m waiting for a few more lines to post...
g.l.
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM.]
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:32 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am on williamson too.
I was just to lazy to write.
Take the mesi fight away and this would be a pick em fight. The last guy williamson fought was better than his record he koed him in the 9,but had some problems early on.
Castillo has a very good chin. I dont believe TOS will knock him out but maybe. But Castillo can be outboxed and he is not constant in his performances. Willamson was sparring with Byrd who should be a good preparation for castillo.
check out wsex for a good price on TOS.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tonymontana:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:
i hit the over on harris/urkal early on....and i have to admit that i am looking hard at a small wager on rivera at around +600.....i`m holding back,though...
rivera,as you stated,does nothing outstanding...his best attribute is his toughness and chin...and he doesn`t quit..
his opposition is weak...the usual stuff you see on the records of most"regional"fighters.....
he does have a win over teddy reid...and reid can punch...
the thing that`s holding me back here is that if this goes to decision,rivera won`t win....king is absolutely creaming his pants over a potential mayorga/trinidad fight....mayorga is still a cash cow....if he loses to rivera,that`ll pretty much be it...
i was really looking at the over...but,other than reid,i don`t see many bangers on rivera`s resume...
a dog i am looking at is davarryl williamson at+325 at 5 dimes....he`s not a "heavy" heavyweight.....but he`s tall(6`4")...and he hits like a mule...he`s not fighting a heavy punching,much bigger guy this time....
castillo is a worlkhorse.....cuban....a smallish lefty heavyweight(6`1")...he works hard...he`s tough...but,he`s not a huge puncher...
i think the mesi k.o. of williamson gave this line some value...
castillo could outwork williamson....he`s on a roll......but,i don`t think williamson is a quitter...i think he has a shot...i just think over 3-1 is a bit much...
i`m waiting for a few more lines to post...
g.l.
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM.]
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:32 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am on williamson too.
I was just to lazy to write.
Take the mesi fight away and this would be a pick em fight. The last guy williamson fought was better than his record he koed him in the 9,but had some problems early on.
Castillo has a very good chin. I dont believe TOS will knock him out but maybe. But Castillo can be outboxed and he is not constant in his performances. Willamson was sparring with Byrd who should be a good preparation for castillo.
check out wsex for a good price on TOS.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Tos delivered.
the overs of byrd and urkal too
IF golota wins it is raining money i was on dec golota and i believe he won byrd didnt do much in the first half of the fight.
Another dog missed by an inch is letterlough
Draw too.
I am a greedy sob played the 11.5 in the ruiz instead the 10.5.
I even wanted to write a smart post that this one more round is not worth more money in general.
All in all a good night but with golota coming in it would have been big.
Hope you made some money too.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:
i hit the over on harris/urkal early on....and i have to admit that i am looking hard at a small wager on rivera at around +600.....i`m holding back,though...
rivera,as you stated,does nothing outstanding...his best attribute is his toughness and chin...and he doesn`t quit..
his opposition is weak...the usual stuff you see on the records of most"regional"fighters.....
he does have a win over teddy reid...and reid can punch...
the thing that`s holding me back here is that if this goes to decision,rivera won`t win....king is absolutely creaming his pants over a potential mayorga/trinidad fight....mayorga is still a cash cow....if he loses to rivera,that`ll pretty much be it...
i was really looking at the over...but,other than reid,i don`t see many bangers on rivera`s resume...
a dog i am looking at is davarryl williamson at+325 at 5 dimes....he`s not a "heavy" heavyweight.....but he`s tall(6`4")...and he hits like a mule...he`s not fighting a heavy punching,much bigger guy this time....
castillo is a worlkhorse.....cuban....a smallish lefty heavyweight(6`1")...he works hard...he`s tough...but,he`s not a huge puncher...
i think the mesi k.o. of williamson gave this line some value...
castillo could outwork williamson....he`s on a roll......but,i don`t think williamson is a quitter...i think he has a shot...i just think over 3-1 is a bit much...
i`m waiting for a few more lines to post...
g.l.
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM.]
[This message was edited by sphincter on April 13, 2004 at 02:32 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am on williamson too.
I was just to lazy to write.
Take the mesi fight away and this would be a pick em fight. The last guy williamson fought was better than his record he koed him in the 9,but had some problems early on.
Castillo has a very good chin. I dont believe TOS will knock him out but maybe. But Castillo can be outboxed and he is not constant in his performances. Willamson was sparring with Byrd who should be a good preparation for castillo.
check out wsex for a good price on TOS.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Tos delivered.
the overs of byrd and urkal too
IF golota wins it is raining money i was on dec golota and i believe he won byrd didnt do much in the first half of the fight.
Another dog missed by an inch is letterlough
Draw too.
I am a greedy sob played the 11.5 in the ruiz instead the 10.5.
I even wanted to write a smart post that this one more round is not worth more money in general.
All in all a good night but with golota coming in it would have been big.
Hope you made some money too.
made a little...should have been more....i don`t know how ruiz keeps doing it....guys just freeze in front of him....
oquendo faded late.....as i feared....he forgot he had a right hand to follow that jab with.....
i`d like to go a few rounds with ruiz` cornerman...what an obnoxious s.o.b....(lol)
but,after watching boxing all day and all night,i still feel unsatisfied.....maybe the draw to end an unspectacular night of boxing....
f-ck it...i`m not greedy...
glad you got `em,too...from the looks of it,a good deal better than me....
congrats...good job...
oquendo faded late.....as i feared....he forgot he had a right hand to follow that jab with.....
i`d like to go a few rounds with ruiz` cornerman...what an obnoxious s.o.b....(lol)
but,after watching boxing all day and all night,i still feel unsatisfied.....maybe the draw to end an unspectacular night of boxing....
f-ck it...i`m not greedy...
glad you got `em,too...from the looks of it,a good deal better than me....
congrats...good job...
