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politically I don't...WTF!

So personally I could be for smoking pot yet or cheating on your spouse yet publically call for it's demise????
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Sounds like pretty safe way to play both sides of the fence!!!!!!


Burke would refuse communion to Kerry
By Patricia Rice
Post-Dispatch Religion Writer
01/30/2004


© 2004 St. Louis Post-Dispatch

If Sen. John Kerry were to stand in Archbishop Raymond L. Burke's communion line Sunday, Burke would bless him without giving him communion.

Kerry, a Catholic, has voted to support abortion rights, contrary to Catholic Church long-held teaching opposing abortion.

"I would have to admonish him not to present himself for communion," said Burke. "I might give him a blessing or something," he said. "If his archbishop has told him he should not present himself for communion, he shouldn't. I agree with Archbishop (Sean P.) O'Malley (of Boston.)"

In his former diocese of La C****e, Wis., Burke sent an official episcopal notification to the diocesan priests to refuse communion to three Catholic Wisconsin law makers who had refused to talk with him about their pro-abortion rights votes.

Wednesday in St. Louis, Kerry said that he shares the Catholic Church's anti-abortion views as an article of faith. But as a public official, he said, it was not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country."

Many Catholic legislators disagree with their bishops, he said. If a St. Louis Catholic legislator would disagree with the church teachings on abortion or capital punishment, Burke would ask them to sit down and talk to him, he said.

Burke spoke about the issue in response to Post-Dispatch questions at a taping of Extra Edition, a weekly half-hour news show produced by the Post-Dispatch and KMOV (Channel 4) and hosted by Jamie Allman. The show airs Saturday night at 6:30.

"On life issues this is a serious issue for bishops, a grave problem for the church which has to be addressed," Burke said.
 

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Actually it does make sense, KMAN. He also probably believes in attending church on Sundays and saying daily prayers, but that doesn't mean he would support a law mandating that everybody in the United States attend church and pray.

As for your analogy, it obviously fails because it's rather unlikely than John Kerry will be seeking to get an abortion any time soon.
 

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KMan,
You're right - it is playing both sides of the fence.

You cannot be a devout Christian and support abortion (Dems, not opposing something that is legal equates to supporting it).

On the same hand KMan, "Thou shall NOT kill" ... applies to all Christians, not just those that haven't stolen an election.

Like I've always said - I'm just voting for the lesser of the evils that have a chance to win.
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KMAN, many countries in Europe have strong Catholic influences and fairly good participation in the church. Yet they all accept that the church does not make the laws for them and that matters such as birth control and abortion are personal and medical issues, not issues that government is going to meddle in. This country used to have that same principle, but somehow people thought that as long as they didn't say the Church tells us to do this, we can pass it off as a reasonable law. Almost everyone that opposes abortion gets their beliefs from their religion, yet they are trying to tell us that their opposition to this has nothing to do with religion. That is just as clearly playing both sides of the fence as Kerry or anyone else that believes this is an issue that the government shouldn't get involved in more than any other medical procedure.
 

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Bill,
I think that you're making an unfair generalization. I am very much against abortion, yet I'm an agnostic.

It's impossible to understand a person's motive with a blanket statement.
 

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You are a rare bird Lander, I would guess 95% of the virulent opponents get their opposition from their religious beliefs. I am not talking about people that say they wouldn't have one or they wished it wouldn't happen, but I am talking about the militant this is the most important issue to me people. Anyone can have an opinion on it, but the people that vote merely for that and go to marches and hold "vigils" are the people I speak of, because they are the ones that are pushing for changes in the law to match their personal, religious-based beliefs.
 

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I think you're right about the psychotic RTLers (the ones that ONLY vote RTL, the ones that are violent).

I'm firmly against it, but I never vote on the issue - I'd end up like Kman if I did .. lol
 

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