Just had an interesting thought....

kayaman+ · Dec 31, 2004

It's been said that the bitter sweet irony of democracy is that the voters get exactly what they deserve.

Based on that logic we can hold those that voted for dumbya responsible for Iraq. However dumbya didn't win the first election, the federal courts halted the recounts as it became more and more evident that Gore was going to come out ahead in Florida by 200-300 votes.

Therefore, why do righties deny that fact and turn the blame for the tragic deaths and the all time record deficit that have occured as a result of Iraq back on themselves?

PatPatriot · Dec 31, 2004

evident that Gore was going to come out ahead in Florida by 200-300 votes.

What evidence?
Have you lost contact with all reality??

The NY Times even said Bush had more votes after they counted them for the 5th time.

kayaman+ · Dec 31, 2004

So you prefer to accept the blame which takes us back to the original question, why would you want it?

PatPatriot · Dec 31, 2004

Kaya why have I not seen you or this guy in the same room at the same time?

American · Dec 31, 2004

LOL!!! Here's a guy still trying to deal with the 2000 election. Meanwhile, life is happening.

Happy New Year Patriot! I wish you well.

kayaman+ · Dec 31, 2004

Still at it with the personal attacks huh?

Instead of immaturity how about debate?
Where's the flaw in the logic?
Why should we not blame those that "elected" dumbya for the debacle of Iraq?

kayaman+ · Dec 31, 2004

"Here's a guy still trying to deal with the 2000 election."

Not dealing with anything, merely pointing out that you right wing pigeons have an out to free yourselves of blame for this fiasco and am curious as to why you choose not to.

PatPatriot · Dec 31, 2004

Where's the flaw in the logic?
Why should we not blame those that "elected" dumbya for the debacle of Iraq?

Cause like I said we are not self loathing,guilt ridden or America hating.

You can blame the deaths on Islamo thugs and the ones that love them.

Further more he was RE-elected by MILLIONS more than the first time....and thanks for playin.

American · Dec 31, 2004

kaya man said:
"Here's a guy still trying to deal with the 2000 election."

Not dealing with anything, merely pointing out that you right wing pigeons have an out to free yourselves of blame for this fiasco and am curious as to why you choose not to.

And you lefties keep trying to coax an apology from the right for all the world's problems and it the apology just isn't going to come. The lefties had their shot to actually do something on November 2 and they failed.

Libs such as yourself are actually more comfortable with armchair-quarterbacking than making actually decisions. It's easier for them to feel morally superior because they can wash their hands of all problems and blame it on the right. Don't hold your breath on an apology.

docmercer--banned · Dec 31, 2004

American:

How drunk are you when you post?

"Libs such as yourself are actually more comfortable with armchair-quarterbacking than making actually decisions. It's easier for them to feel morally superior because they can wash their hands of all problems and blame it on the right"

Let em get this right ... how many times have we seen you post blaming Clinton for some problem? Guy has been out of office for now working on 2 terms ... time for the Bushies to step to the plate and show some responsibility

PatPatriot · Dec 31, 2004

Libs such as yourself are actually more comfortable with armchair-quarterbacking than making actually decisions. It's easier for them to feel morally superior because they can wash their hands of all problems and blame it on the right. Don't hold your breath on an apology.

Ditto..good one American.

Happy and prosperous New Year to you and yours also!

American · Dec 31, 2004

doc mercer said:
American

Let em get this right ... how many times have we seen you post blaming Clinton for some problem?

NEVER. You've got the wrong guy. My position is that we're all in this together. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just me. I mainly focus on what's going on, not who to blame for it or point a finger at. We're in it together. It's folks like you that want to polarize the country's people. That's one of the main reasons the Dems got the finger on Nov. 2.

lander · Dec 31, 2004

American,
Armchair quarterbacking? Great point, let's talk about it a bit, shall we?

I know your hero was a cheerleader, but isn't time you put the pom poms down and supported your cause with your blood?

Or maybe the reality is that a coward with power just fascinates you to the point where you begin emulate her?

American · Dec 31, 2004

lander said:
American,

I know your hero was a cheerleader, but isn't time you put the pom poms down and supported your cause with your blood?

I served in the Air Force from 1985 to 1989. I put my name on the dotted line. We weren't in wartime, as the Persian Gulf War came after I got out. However, if war broke out while I was serving, I would have gone, no questions asked. I wouldn't have been debating if it was right or wrong...I would have have done whatever my duty was. So, what's your point?

I wore a uniform, as did my grandfather (Ret. Lt. Col. USAF, former POW in Romania)), step-grandfather (Army/WWII), grandfather on my father's side (German soldier and troop instructor, Africa WWII) and my brother (Army) and my uncle (currently Col. USAF).

kayaman+ · Dec 31, 2004

"And you lefties keep trying to coax an apology from the right for all the world's problems and it the apology just isn't going to come. The lefties had their shot to actually do something on November 2 and they failed.

Libs such as yourself are actually more comfortable with armchair-quarterbacking than making actually decisions. It's easier for them to feel morally superior because they can wash their hands of all problems and blame it on the right. Don't hold your breath on an apology."

I'm not looking for an apology, much less would I accept it. Apologize to the dead if you wish, personally I didn't vote for the tyrant.

"armchair-quarterbacking"
This is laughably ironic with all the right wing armchair warriors we have around here.

GAMEFACE · Dec 31, 2004

ho hum back to the 2000 election, this is case and point why the dems will lose more senate seats in 2 years. who will they blame then?

kayaman+ · Dec 31, 2004

"Cause like I said we are not self loathing,guilt ridden or America hating.

You can blame the deaths on Islamo thugs and the ones that love them.

Further more he was RE-elected by MILLIONS more than the first time....and thanks for playin."

This makes very little sense and does nothing to disprove my point pat, as a matter of fact this...

"Further more he was RE-elected by MILLIONS more than the first time....and thanks for playin."

emphazies it.

Dumbya lied to the world about motives to start a war that was supposed to be an easy in/out deal. We're still there, the death toll and deficit keep rising. I know I didn't vote for the guy, what about you?

GAMEFACE · Dec 31, 2004

I challenge you to find a quote when President Bush says Iraq would be easy in and out. That's a lie, it was never said.

kayaman+ · Dec 31, 2004

I could be wrong game.

Doesn't change the fact that forged documents were presented to the U.N.. Doesn't change the fact that cheney's oil company was doing business with saddam before the war or that cheney lied about that fact. Doesn't change the fact that cheney also got the clean up contracts. Doesn't change the fact that the world and half of the U.S. public was against going to war and even fewer support it now.

PatPatriot · Dec 31, 2004

I know I didn't vote for the guy, what about you?

I voted for the guy that freed 50 million people and brought Libya to its knees and gave up its weapons of mass destruction that they did have and also put under arrest the man responsible for the most muslim deaths in history.

Who did you vote for...that pablum puking pee pee puffer from the people republic of Taxachusetts???