Jordan better than Lebron?

[shdw01]

I think if they had a free throw contest then Jordan would win.

I think Lebron wins in HORSE, 2 on 2, 3 on 3, 4 on 4, and 5 on 5. Lebron drives to the rim better, runs faster, jumps higher.

Lebron probably wins at football, baseball.

 

[texansfan]

Hi Chop.

 

[SECplayer]

Lebron is on his way to being the best ever.

Jordan at 31
3 rings, 3 MVPs

Lebron at 31
3 rings, 4 MVPs

when Lebron left the Cavs, they went from a finals team to missing the playoffs.

When Jordan left the Bulls to play baseball, the Bulls still finished 3rd in the east.

 

[IAM4UK]

It would be nice if everyone would include their age when discussing this comparison.

 

[shdw01]

Lebron is on his way to being the best ever.

Jordan at 31
3 rings, 3 MVPs

Lebron at 31
3 rings, 4 MVPs

when Lebron left the Cavs, they went from a finals team to missing the playoffs.

When Jordan left the Bulls to play baseball, the Bulls still finished 3rd in the east.

Competition is much greater now. Teams like Golden State, Miami, OKC, Spurs, etc. It is a miracle Lebron has 3 rings. IMO he is already best ever, if he gets to 6 then only crazies would disagree

 

[texansfan]

Competition is much greater now. Teams like Golden State, Miami, OKC, Spurs, etc. It is a miracle Lebron has 3 rings. IMO he is already best ever, if he gets to 6 then only crazies would disagree

I think it's worse, all but one of those teams mentioned play in the West. In the East it's Cleveland and then a drop off from the other teams. Lebron would never play in the West, too many good teams.

 

[texansfan]

It would be nice if everyone would include their age when discussing this comparison.

49

My first NBA finals that I watched was when the Bullets beat the SuperSonics in 78.

 

[CHOPTALK]

Anybody who says LJ is not the greatest of all time absolutely sucks and don't have an open mind.

You suck suck suck if you don't think so.

This is the only conclusion is that you suck.

 

[texansfan]

Anybody who says LJ is not the greatest of all time absolutely sucks and don't have an open mind.

You suck suck suck if you don't think so.

This is the only conclusion is that you suck.

Not yet he isn't.

 

[PatsFan1283]

This new trend where every time a basketball or football team wins they have to be the best ever at something is a little annoying. Media (in particular the mouth breathers at ESPN) loves getting as much mileage as possible out of these questions because they can never be definitively answered.

Seahawks, Broncos....Best D ever?
Brady, Manning...best QB ever?
Warriors...best team ever?
LeBron....best player ever?

People just need to let that stuff breath. Even if you know the answer you can't even make any money off that shit unless you find a way to invent time travel, which is a lot more difficult than it looked in Back To The Future.

 

[CHOPTALK]

This new trend where every time a basketball or football team wins they have to be the best ever at something is a little annoying.

Seahawks, Broncos....Best D ever?
Brady, Manning...best QB ever?
Warriors...best team ever?
LeBron....best player ever?

People just need to let that stuff breath. Even if you know the answer you can't even make any money off that shit unless you find a way to invent time travel, which is a lot more difficult than it looked in Back To The Future.

I agree.
I did not come to this conclusion last night.
Ive been saying it for years with hundreds of post on this forum. I'm sure you've probably read some of them.

I just finally have a platform to say it more since last night but I don't believe he magically became what I'm calling him in the last 24 hours .

 

[PatsFan1283]

It would be cool to see them play one another in their primes. It would definitely be very competitive. I think there are some team constructions where I would rather have LeBron and others I would rather have Jordan. They are the 2 best "non-big" players though. I don't really have much question about that but that isn't anything new as far as opinions go either.

LeBron is better all around so he can carry crap/average teams a little better but for what NBA success is ultimately judged by is taking a very good team and making them great and MJ's scoring ability does that a little better than Bron's jack of all trades.

 

[CHOPTALK]

I mean if kyrie misses that shot does that make Lebron less great?
Dont think so

 

[CHOPTALK]

It would be cool to see them play one another in their primes. It would definitely be very competitive. I think there are some team constructions where I would rather have LeBron and others I would rather have Jordan. They are the 2 best "non-big" players though. I don't really have much question about that but that isn't anything new as far as opinions go either.

LeBron is better all around so he can carry crap/average teams a little better but for what NBA success is ultimately judged by is taking a very good team and making them great and MJ's scoring ability does that a little better than Bron's jack of all trades.

I would hope people that have read my post today would realize that I'm just trying to give LJ equal time.
This forum and the sports world is way too disproportionate on the MJ side.

If people's opinion on this question was anywhere near 50/50 like it should be I would not be as vocal as I have been .
I really honestly don't have a problem with anyone who says MJ is better but I have a big problem with anyone who thinks that to think otherwise you are some kind of idiot.

Its very very close . Too close to call actually.

When you start picking players based on team construction that's when you know you are splitting hairs

 

[PatsFan1283]

If Lynch runs it in then are Brady's 2 TD drives in the 4th quarter vs the Seahawks not as impressive?

Obviously sort by rings is flawed but most historical arguments tend to be more emotional than logical so you get a lot of fallacy type arguments. Why it is mostly AIDS discussion, lol.

 

[Enfuego]

This new trend where every time a basketball or football team wins they have to be the best ever at something is a little annoying. Media (in particular the mouth breathers at ESPN) loves getting as much mileage as possible out of these questions because they can never be definitively answered.

Seahawks, Broncos....Best D ever?
Brady, Manning...best QB ever?
Warriors...best team ever?
LeBron....best player ever?

People just need to let that stuff breath. Even if you know the answer you can't even make any money off that shit unless you find a way to invent time travel, which is a lot more difficult than it looked in Back To The Future.

I think it's called the Mike Greenberg syndrome.

 

[Enfuego]

I mean if kyrie misses that shot does that make Lebron less great?
Dont think so

As if the Cavs lost the game? Absolutely has an impact either way.

 

[CHOPTALK]

I think it's called the Mike Greenberg syndrome.

No shit . He is the worlds worst when it comes to shit like that

 

[CHOPTALK]

As if the Cavs lost the game? Absolutely has an impact either way.

So if he missed that shot somehow Lebron is magically not as good as a player the moment the ball bounces off the rim?
lol

 

[CHOPTALK]

So based on the outcome of a shot from a teammate that effects his slot on the all time greatest leaderboard standings?
LJ needs to buy that man a beer.