Jake Arrieta: Worth more than Strasburg, won't give discount to Cubs

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CHICAGO -- Reigning Cy Young Award winner Jake Arrieta on Wednesday hinted that he's worth more than the $175 million deal given to Stephen Strasburg and said he's not ready to give a hometown discount to stay with the Chicago Cubs.


"I'll let you judge that," Arrieta told reporters Wednesday morning about what he believes his market to be. "Just look at the numbers."


Strasburg, who signed his seven-year extension with the Washington Nationals on Tuesday, has never had a sub-3.00 ERA over a full season of starts, though he's 5-0 with a 2.76 mark right now.


Arrieta, meanwhile, has seen his ERA improve dramatically over his three seasons with the Cubs, going from 3.66 in 2013 to 2.53 in 2014 to 1.77 as he won the National League Cy Young Award last season. That trend has continued so far this season as he's gotten off to a 6-0 record with a 1.13 ERA.


"That's why starting pitching is so valuable," said Arrieta, whose agent is Scott Boras, who also represents Strasburg. "There's not many guys that can pitch at the top of the rotation floating around the league."


Arrieta, whose ERA is a measly 0.92 over his past 27 starts, is making $10.7 million and has one year left of arbitration before he can become a free agent after the 2017 season. The Cubs have won his past 20 regular-season starts.


"The misconception is that Scott wants everyone to go to free agency," Arrieta said of Boras. "I made it clear I like Chicago. I think everyone knows that. If I had it my way, I'd stay here. That's just one side of the story. We'll see."


When asked whether he'd give a hometown discount to the Cubs, Arrieta flatly said "no" while shaking his head.


First baseman Anthony Rizzo signed a team-friendly deal (7 years, $41 million) with the Cubs in 2013, but that came years before he was eligible for free agency.
Arrieta said "aces get 7 years" -- just as Strasburg got -- so think of that as a starting point. And think $200 million as one, as well.
"Financially I'm fine, regardless," Arrieta said. "You want to be paid in respect to how your peers are paid. I don't think that changes with any guy you ask. It happens around baseball every year."


Arrieta's comparables are more likely to be David Price (7 years, $217 million) or Max Scherzer (7 years, $210 million), who is also a Boras client. Both won the Cy Young Award before signing huge free-agent deals with the Boston Red Sox and the Nationals, respectively.


As for the Cubs' opinion of how Strasburg's deal might affect Arrieta's situation, team president Theo Epstein is playing it close to the vest.


"You pay attention to everything that goes on in the game, but it doesn't impact us too much," Epstein said Tuesday afternoon. "Obviously, it will impact markets and we have to operate in markets, but it is what it is."


Arrieta said that he's open to the sides talking, even in-season, but that a deal doesn't seem imminent.


"Most of the focus has to stay on what we're trying to accomplish today," Arrieta said. "If we keep winning, those kinds of things work themselves out in time. If they want to talk, they know where I'm at and we can get something going ...


"In a perfect world, I prefer it be done quickly. Let's get it over with and go play."
 
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Arrieta = More $$$ than Strasburg

I agree with this

even though I believe these Mega contacts are for the birds
 

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He is def worth more than Strasburg.

Strasburg just got way overpaid though
 

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Arrieta is clearly the better pitcher (right now), but when his contract is up, he will be 32. Strasburg is just 27.
Injury history is a different animal in that comparison, but before talking about long term contracts, I'd wait and see how he holds up in his 2nd and 3rd season with a 250IP (incl. playoffs) workload. And he wouldn't be the first top pitcher who sees his velocity decline and struggles to adapt and keep his outstanding level. Besides there seems to be little incentive for Epstein to get a deal done early because right now Arrieta is on the top of his game, his price tag imo couldn't be really that much higher as a FA 1.5 years from now.
 

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Arrieta deserves top money.....More then that gas can Price.
 

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Rizzo is getting ripped off....The guy is making only 6 million a year.
 

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Steroids or whatever he's on has helped him tremendously.
 

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If Joe Maddon has significant input - and I bet he does - I would be very surprised if Cubs give any starting pitcher more than 10-12m per year. This will be due to Maddon's understanding that while guys dealing like Arrieta are fun, all the team needs is four starters who can deliver a 3.30 ERA and a fifth who can stay under 4.40

There are plenty of great young arms who can make that happen and there is no need to pay a guy past his seventh to eighth year, which is when the big contracts get dangled by other teams.

Beginning w Maddon in 2008 and continuing through today, the TB Rays have had some of the most consistent starting pitching in MLB over past nine years.

And they have done that with only One man aged 30+ starting a game for them - that being James Shields in his final year with them.

Keeping your SP salaries capped at a collective 25mil or less leaves a lot more cash to lock in above average position players for longer terms. While the Rays may not spend that way, the Cubs likely can handle it.
 

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The guy takes good care of himself.....He`s not on anything.

 

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If Joe Maddon has significant input - and I bet he does - I would be very surprised if Cubs give any starting pitcher more than 10-12m per year. This will be due to Maddon's understanding that while guys dealing like Arrieta are fun, all the team needs is four starters who can deliver a 3.30 ERA and a fifth who can stay under 4.40
Don't you think Maddon was involved in the decision to sign Lester to that huge contract before last season? He was introduced in early Nov. iirc while Lester got signed about 4-6 weeks later in December.
In general I agree with your post, but imo it's getting impossible to have a 5-man starting rotation for 25mio. per year nowadays, if you even sign 2 FAs. A 3.30 ERA starter in the Chen or Iwakuma range already costs something like 13-15mio annually.
Plus the Cubs are kind of a special case because they already have locked up pretty much all their great position players for years (except Fowler) and besides Heyward on the cheap, way below market value. So they have plenty of cash to go after pitching, if they felt the need.
 

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Don't you think Maddon was involved in the decision to sign Lester to that huge contract before last season? He was introduced in early Nov. iirc while Lester got signed about 4-6 weeks later in December.
In general I agree with your post, but imo it's getting impossible to have a 5-man starting rotation for 25mio. per year nowadays, if you even sign 2 FAs. A 3.30 ERA starter in the Chen or Iwakuma range already costs something like 13-15mio annually.
Plus the Cubs are kind of a special case because they already have locked up pretty much all their great position players for years (except Fowler) and besides Heyward on the cheap, way below market value. So they have plenty of cash to go after pitching, if they felt the need.

Did you just say they signed heyward for cheap?

Haha.

That might be the worst contract for a heathy player in all of baseball
 

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The contrary: I said BESIDES Heyward, they have them signed on the cheap. Heyward being the exception. Zobrist might not qualify as cheap, too, but isn't THAT overpriced. Even the 10mio for Fowler are a very decent deal, not even talking about the Rizzo contract or all the young guys like Bryant, Russell, Baez, Schwarber and so on, who aren't even arbitration eligible yet.
 

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Don't you think Maddon was involved in the decision to sign Lester to that huge contract before last season? He was introduced in early Nov. iirc while Lester got signed about 4-6 weeks later in December.
In general I agree with your post, but imo it's getting impossible to have a 5-man starting rotation for 25mio. per year nowadays, if you even sign 2 FAs. A 3.30 ERA starter in the Chen or Iwakuma range already costs something like 13-15mio annually.
Plus the Cubs are kind of a special case because they already have locked up pretty much all their great position players for years (except Fowler) and besides Heyward on the cheap, way below market value. So they have plenty of cash to go after pitching, if they felt the need.

My point being that if a team uses only pitchers in their first 1-6 yrs, they will rarely have need to pay more than 5-8mil and two or three will be in the million or less range.

Maddon may well have encouraged Lester contract given that Cubs seem willing to spend more than tight wallet Rays
 

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