Is Barack Obama the first President in history with no original birth certificate??

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bushman
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Maybe they lost it, maybe it never existed, whatever.

It looks like there really is no original birth certificate for him.
 

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Not that I really care about it, but has anyone seen John McCain's birth certificate? Please post.
 

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YES McCain took the "bull by the horns" and since he was born on a military base came forward and showed everyone His Birth Certificate!
 

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There is no original American birth certificate since he was born in a hospital in Kenya according to his paternal Grandmother in Kenya who said she was present at the time. Why would she lie about such a thing?
 

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PROOF is that BOTH of HIS parents are US citizens...SO he could have been born in a cave, but as long as it was a military base...YOU are a US Citizen......Do you not knonw his father was in the Navy??


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NOW PLEASE LIST YOUR PROOF??????????????????????
 

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The Senate has unanimously declared John McCain a natural-born citizen, eligible to be president of the United States.
That is the good news for the presumptive Republican nominee, who was born nearly 72 years ago in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, then under U.S. jurisdiction. The bad news is that the nonbinding Senate resolution passed Wednesday night is simply an opinion that has little bearing on an arcane constitutional debate that has preoccupied legal scholars for many weeks.
Article II of the Constitution states that "no person except a natural born citizen . . . shall be eligible to the office of president." The problem is that the Founding Fathers never defined exactly what they meant by "natural born citizen," and the matter has never been fully tested in court. At least three pending cases are challenging McCain's right to be sworn in as president.
Jurists on both sides of the political divide, consulted by the McCain campaign, insist that the issue is clear-cut. They argue that McCain is a natural-born citizen because the United States held sovereignty over the Panama Canal Zone at the time of his birth, on Aug. 29, 1936; because he was born on a U.S. military base; and because his parents were U.S. citizens.
But Sarah H. Duggin, an associate law professor at Catholic University who has studied the "natural born" issue in detail, said the question is "not so simple." While she said McCain would probably prevail in a determined legal challenge to his eligibility to be president, she added that the matter can be fully resolved only by a constitutional amendment or a Supreme Court decision.
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"The Constitution is ambiguous," Duggin said. "The McCain side has some really good arguments, but ultimately there has never been any real resolution of this issue. Congress cannot legislatively change the meaning of the Constitution."
Senators sympathetic to McCain's position, including Democrats Claire McCaskill (Mo.) and Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.), dropped an earlier attempt to quell the eligibility controversy with legislation. McCaskill acknowledged in an interview that there is "no way" to completely resolve the question short of a constitutional amendment, a cumbersome process which could not be concluded before November.
She described the nonbinding resolution, which she sponsored, as "the quickest, clearest and most efficient" way for the Senate to send a message to the courts that McCain has the right to be president.
One person who disagrees with that premise is New Hampshire resident Fred Hollander, who has filed a suit in U.S. District Court claiming that the Republican candidate is "not a natural born citizen." In an attempt to prove his argument, the 49-year-old computer programmer filed a subpoena last month seeking McCain's birth certificate.
The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees citizenship services, declined to hand over copies of the document, saying the subpoena was improperly served.
In his autobiography, "Faith of My Fathers," McCain writes that he was born "in the Canal Zone" at the U.S. Naval Air Station in Coco Solo, which was under the command of his grandfather, John S. McCain Sr. The senator's father, John S. McCain Jr., was an executive officer on a submarine, also based in Coco Solo. His mother, Roberta McCain, now 96, has vivid memories of lying in bed listening to raucous celebrations of her son's birth from the nearby officers' club.
The birth was announced two days later in the English-language Panamanian American newspaper. A senior official of the McCain campaign showed a reporter a copy of the senator's birth certificate issued by Canal Zone health authorities, recording his birth in the Coco Solo "family hospital."

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PROOF is that BOTH of HIS parents are US citizens...SO he could have been born in a cave, but as long as it was a military base...YOU are a US Citizen......Do you not knonw his father was in the Navy??


Proff listed below



NOW PLEASE LIST YOUR PROOF??????????????????????

Person must be born in the United States to qualify to be President. Parents US citizens not good enough. Please educate yourself then come back here.
 

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This is an original 1963 Hawaii birth certificate.
At least two/three signatures and NOT a computer printout.
And it looks like President-to-be Obama aint got one, lol.


hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg
 

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D2 You are AVOIDING the Question

I posted PROOF....and you acted like an ASS



SO post proof OR Go AWAY as you know NOTHING!



And the Certificate of live Birth is NOT a Birth Certificate!!
 

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Waiting D2 BETS




You are barking up the wrong tree....i can debate you all day and you won't have ONE answer!
 

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It's unreal that they have not been forced to the prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were born in the USA. There should be a process....you should have to submit some official proof. How can this not be the case?
 

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D2-------------> "crickets"
 

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D2BETS.......NOTHING....SILENCE?????



Such a Poser....Next......You deserve what you are getting in Obama
 

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Factcheck org claims to have an immaculate unsullied sharp cornered 50 year old original paper birth certificate.

:nohead:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

With nada signatures...

There is a meaningless rubber stamp signature on the back, but only personal signatures were used back in them days.

What they have looks like a modern updated birth certificate copy, probably from when the old system got shifted over sometime during the ensuing decades.
 

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Eek

Factcheck org claims to have an immaculate unsullied sharp cornered 50 year old original paper birth certificate.

:nohead:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

With nada signatures...

There is a meaningless rubber stamp signature on the back, but only personal signatures were used back in them days.



THAT IS NOT a Birth Certificate


I am a Dr. who works in Hospitals

There is a BIG difference between a "certificate of birth" and a BIRTH CERTIFICATE



You couldn't register your kid for Little League witha certificate of Birth
 

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I am a Dr. who works in Hospitals


:lol:

Cool. So now our humble PoliticoPub has a Doctor posting in between his hospital shifts and a former writer for The Onion (ten years before it even existed).

:drink:
 

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