Iran Nuclear deadline 1 August

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Iran says it wants to resume nuclear enrichment

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA -->Iran says the three European states which are trying to resolve the dispute over Tehran's nuclear programme must submit their proposals by Monday.

An Iranian government spokesman said a European request for the date to be put back had been rejected.

But diplomats from the UK, France and Germany say they never promised to have the proposals ready by 1 August.

Iran has repeatedly said that it will resume some of its nuclear activities regardless of EU proposals.

Tehran insists its programme is purely for non-military aims.

'Expectations'

The Europeans have been trying to put together a package of measures which they hope will persuade Iran to make concessions over its plan to resume uranium enrichment activities.

Uranium enrichment can be used to fuel nuclear power stations, but can also provide material for nuclear weapons.

The spokesman for the Supreme National Security Council told journalists that Europe formally asked for an extension until 7 August to hand over its nuclear proposals.

"We reject any delay. We are expecting their proposals to be submitted on 1 August and it should meet Iran's minimum expectations," Ali Agha Mohammadi said.

However, the Europeans deny that they asked for a delay and say the only time frame they ever gave was late July or early August.

Iran suspended all uranium conversion and enrichment activities in November, but has always insisted that the suspension was temporary.

Earlier this week outgoing President Mohammad Khatami said he hoped EU diplomats would allow for a resumption of enrichment activities, but Iran would begin again in any case.

Europe has made it clear that a resumption of nuclear work will mean an end to the talks. The US accuses Tehran of seeking to build a nuclear arsenal and opposes its nuclear enrichment activities. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the conservative former Tehran mayor who was elected Iran's president last month, has said he wants to continue the nuclear programme.<!-- E BO -->

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4731853.stm



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The euromuppets offered Iran light water nuclear power stations.
The Iranians rejected this offer.
You can't make nukes from light water stations.

Iran wants heavy water stations, the ones you can make nukes from.

So the diplomatic stalling game is finally over, it's decision time.

War, appeasement, or a new cold war .

 

[SamOdom]

War, appeasement, or a new cold war .

Different world we live in now, no cold war. 1/2 dozen cruise missiles will be the answer to this 'problem'.

 

[Coldweather]

Toss the big one right in the middle of that country, then send some troops in and take their stuff. That's what we should do this Tuesday!

 

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I would expect the US to ramp up the pressure at the UN.

It's ultimatum time.


BTW
Pat did you remember to renew Americas annual subscription to the UN?
$30 plus fees has to be in by the end of July.

 

[Marco]

"$30 plus fees...":lolBIG:

Reminds me of that Austin Powers movie where the bald guy was issuing demands of extorsion payment and wanted "One Million Dollars".....upon which everybody giggled and looked at each other like "are you gonna reach for your wallet or will I just pay him off..."

 

[POLYSCIMAJOR]

The Next Move.

The USA will go to the UN Security Council and ask for a vote. We will be in Iran if they do not stop the reactors. This will be a real war folks. We will start the draft for this one. The take over of this country will not be a problem. We have the troops and weapons to do it swiftly. It will take more troops on the ground so we will have to use the draft. This is the reason why we went into Iraq folks. So we can attack Iran from 2 sides. Any person that plays chess could figure that out.

Round 2.......FIGHT

 

[Marco]

"We have the troops and weapons to do it swiftly."

Kinda like them Russian dudes in Afghanistan who went up against a bunch of hillbillies and left ten years later all bloody?

Stick with a few heavy cruise missiles and knock out the joint if it makes you nervous, or talk the Israeli dudes into a little Rambo-in-a-jet mission.....

A ground assault in Iran is just going to be another version of the fuckup in Iraq.

 

[POLYSCIMAJOR]

"We have the troops and weapons to do it swiftly."

Kinda like them Russian dudes in Afghanistan who went up against a bunch of hillbillies and left ten years later all bloody?

Stick with a few heavy cruise missiles and knock out the joint if it makes you nervous, or talk the Israeli dudes into a little Rambo-in-a-jet mission.....

A ground assault in Iran is just going to be another version of the fuckup in Iraq.

What do you not understand......

ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN A DAY.

Give it up bro. You can not just blow everything up and leave the pieces. That is what will create more terrorists. Please, use your brain next time before you open your mouth and address me.

 

[Coldweather]

Ouch !

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[Marco]

"You can not blow everything up and leave the pieces. That is what will create more terrorists."

Yeah, better to kill off a whole bunch of civilians and let the survivors hate us enough to grab a gun and pick up the fight against us.....as if the occupation wasn't enough to draw most of the guns out of the hills already.....

And what are you proposing? A ground assault followed by a regime change and a whimsical vote, followed by years of soaking in suicide bombers and roadside bombs....kinda like the unfinished mess you guys are completely mired in in Iraq? Good plan dipshit.

"Please, use your brain next time...."

If this administration had used thier brains we wouldn't be stuck two years later in the same useless struggle in Iraq, I'm thinking they'll try something smarter with Iran, but I really doubt it. Dubya didn't listen to daddy about the stupidity of invading Iraq and Cheney forgot what he said back in 92....but then again money changed thier minds....

Not only did they fuck up, they took ignorance another step farther by trying to install democracy in a region of the planet that's been at war since before gunpowder was invented.


Party on with this Iran thing, pretty easy to say it's going to FAIL just like Iraq.....

 

[POLYSCIMAJOR]

What did you not understand about my last comment I made to you?

What do you not understand......

ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN A DAY.

Give it up bro. You can not just blow everything up and leave the pieces. That is what will create more terrorists. Please, use your brain next time before you open your mouth and address me.

Lets break down your empty thoughts.

Yeah, better to kill off a whole bunch of civilians and let the survivors hate us enough to grab a gun and pick up the fight against us.....as if the occupation wasn't enough to draw most of the guns out of the hills already.....

And what are you proposing? A ground assault followed by a regime change and a whimsical vote, followed by years of soaking in suicide bombers and roadside bombs....kinda like the unfinished mess you guys are completely mired in in Iraq? Good plan dipshit..

Where do you get this crap? Iran is changing. The younger generation wants freedom. Hence all of the news paper articles on it. Here is a example http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/12/world/main558295.shtml.

Cruise Missles will not be able to destroy Iran's military targets, or reactors. A ground assualt is the only way to solve this problem. Unless you want them to get thier hands on Nuclear material that could be used by Jihadists for A-Bomb's and Dirty Bomb's. I bet that is what you want right?

If this administration had used thier brains we wouldn't be stuck two years later in the same useless struggle in Iraq, I'm thinking they'll try something smarter with Iran, but I really doubt it. Dubya didn't listen to daddy about the stupidity of invading Iraq and Cheney forgot what he said back in 92....but then again money changed thier minds....

Not only did they fuck up, they took ignorance another step farther by trying to install democracy in a region of the planet that's been at war since before gunpowder was invented...

Yes it has been 2 years. A useless struggle NO. Is Freedom a useless struggle? That's what you are saying. It's not about money. Where do you get this crap? LOL.....Does some fairy wisper in your ear to write this shit? You are a joke. His daddy was a ***** and a dumb-ass for not finishing the job then.

It will work Sir. We have been on time with everything we have set out to do. No major delay's. This December they will have a government in place that will be allowed to join the UN. Like I said......

ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN A DAY.

You are wasteing my time. Go get some facts....come back and talk to me.

What has failed in IRAQ? Looks like it's comming along just fine.

 

[Derek12]

I cant believe theres people out there who still believe that this Iraq issue was a good thing....so the struggle american soldiers have been thru in the last 2 years was all about peace and iraq people freedom...yeah right..thats BS.

I hope not... but I know for a fact that if Americans dont stop some of G.W Bush stupid ideas like invading Iran in a future for whatever reason....America will see more blood than ever...God forbid that from happening

 

[Marco]

"This December they will have a government in place that will be allowed to join the UN."

Great. Then Rome can be built and we can get the fuck out of Iraq and let them kill off each other, the same as is happening now. See how long those first stringers last in this "blossoming democracy" that some people want to spend hundreds of billions to create.

Most of them will be dead before 2006 is over.

 

[BASEHEAD]

Toss the big one right in the middle of that country, then send some troops in and take their stuff. That's what we should do this Tuesday!

Yes. They DID want to see how one of these things worked didnt they?

 

[Coldweather]

Yes. They DID want to see how one of these things worked didnt they?

Correct. If they continue to remain obstinate they will see how these things work indeed. Good thinking.

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