In the Face of Evil: Reagan's War in Word and Deed

[JoeContrarian]

http://www.inthefaceofevil.com/

From the top-secret plans of Reagan and his inner circle, from the oil fields of Saudi Arabia to the streets of Warsaw; from the trading floors of Wall Street to the vast steppes of Siberia; the plan that encompassed covert ops; a massive arms buildup; and economic and psychological warfare -- this is the story that details the brick-by-brick takedown of the “Evil Empire.” This award winning film for best documentary in 2005, shows us how Ronald Reagan freed a billion slaves from their Communist slave masters. This is the story of that achievement: of one man’s triumph during the bloodiest and most barbaric century in mankind’s history: the 20th century.

Watch the trailer and order the DVD and see how the facts place liberal revisionism in the same dustbin of history as Marxism, itself. It's positively riveting.

“You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth...”
Ronald Reagan, 1964

 

[xpanda]

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/index.htm

I mean, seriously. It's just plain weird how patriotic you are for a country you don't live in.

 

[JoeContrarian]

How do you know how much time I spend in the US or my business? You don't know shit. Unlike you and your isolated, indoctrinated 'progressive' talking points, my values transcend the pettiness of geographical borders.

 

[xpanda]

No they don't. You're in love with the US.

Look, if I spent half my day yammering on about how much I loved IBM, while all the while staying at my job at MicroSoft, wouldn't somebody, eventually, tell me to at least drop off my resume??

I don't care how much time you spend in the US, it's pretty clear you are as close to an American patriot as it gets ... I'd say you're probably more patriotic to the US than a good chunk of Americans. It's weird. Just plain weird.

You could be a Democrat and it would still be as weird. This has nothing to do with your political views and EVERYTHING to do with a border you claim to not see.

 

[JoeContrarian]

It's about VALUES (something you don't have) and nothing more:

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=370225

Way to hijack a thread once again, bringing ZERO substance to the topic at hand. Unfortunately, personal attacks (and throwing food) hoping to achieve a coherent 'point,' is all liberals are capable of these days.

Newsflash: Reagan won the cold war. Americans, as well as Canadians, as well as every freedom loving individual on the planet, owe this man a huge debt of gratitude. If he were Polish, I'd be stating the same. It is you who remain captive to your Trudeaupian paranoid delusions of America, not I.

 

[CAPNCRUNCH]

I don't exactly believe Reagan was the face of evil - just damn close!

 

[xpanda]

Yes, the only time you show any love for your own country is when we're talking about those same things you value in American culture, namely militarism, conservatism and the like.

Sorry to hijack your thread, but I've been finding your American patriotism to be stronger and weirder by the day. Your language literally drips with Uncle Samisms. I simply didn't feel the need to start a new thread over it. I am also currently incapable of discussing your OP as I've not seen the film, though I find it dubious that Reagan singlehandedly brought about the demise of Russia as you believe.

Carry on with your hero worship.

 

[dinojs]

“You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth...”
Ronald Reagan, 1964

I liked Reagan, although I didn't pay much attention to politics when he was President, except maybe the court room drama and the coinage of 'being economic with the truth'. This quote seems a little on the dramatic side. If his legancy is the adoption of aggressive foriegn policies in general, justified by the fall of communism, then IMO he's just being used. If this is just a tribute to him without direct application to current middle east policy, or to encourage Republicans that it wasn't always so bad, then I might well enjoy it.

 

[Jointpleasure]

I'll be looking into getting the poster as well but I would really like the original oil painting. Maybe I can photoshop the poster with brush stokes and take it to Sam's Club and have it blown up and put on canvas. The walls have been framed and the sheetrock is ready to be put on in the entertainment/political war room. I'll be the envy of everyone who visits!

 

[JoeContrarian]

Dinojs, this may be more to your liking:

"Reagan, In his own hand."
(The Writings of Ronald Reagan That Reveal His Revolutionary Vision for America)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...ref=sr_1_1/002-8880009-6670414?_encoding=UTF8

Panda, if it's any consolation, liberals of your ilk, force me to dig in my heels.

Anyway, this is about Ronald Reagan, the man. Only you and your usual paranoid Trudeaupian anti-American delusions, would attempt to spin this another form of Yankee flag worship.

 

[xpanda]

Though you've never asked yet draw the conclusion, I've no love for Trudeau. And I am not anti-American, either.

I just think that if you don't like what you have, and there's something out there you like more, you should try to get it. It's true of love, true of work, true of fashion, true of wine, and should be equally true of residence. Like, I grew up in the country but always wanted to be a city girl. So that I am, now. Personal responsibility and all that.

I just want you to be happy, Joe.

 

[dinojs]

Thx. Just bought it, used. Got to love Amazon.

 

[bigplay]

Though you've never asked yet draw the conclusion, I've no love for Trudeau. And I am not anti-American, either.

I just think that if you don't like what you have, and there's something out there you like more, you should try to get it. It's true of love, true of work, true of fashion, true of wine, and should be equally true of residence. Like, I grew up in the country but always wanted to be a city girl. So that I am, now. Personal responsibility and all that.

I just want you to be happy, Joe.

If your trying to push Joe on us, sorry we don't want him. We already have enough joes here in the USA.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Contrarian:

Good job ...

 

[Phaedrus]

Are the Reaganites getting to the Kool-Aid phase of the get-together anytime soon? Sure would be nice to have the world cleansed of that guy's sycophants so hell-bent on rewriting history.

"Reagan freed the hostages?" Try "Reagan sold America out."

"Reagan was a brilliant military/political strategist?" See also "Iraq-Iran War," the source of most of the problems we have with both of those countries today.

"Reagan ended communism?" Hands-down the most absurd, borderline crazy thing that gets said about the Gipper. Communism ended communism, coincidentally on Reagan's watch. You want to deify anyone for the end of communism, try Pope John Paull II or that batshit Tito, both of whom did at least as much as Reagan to be thorns in the side of the USSR. One day, when/if you grow out of your Reagan phase, you'll understand that you idolise him only because he is merely a Politician Who Thinks Like You™ and that this is not only a bad basis for pagan idolatry but may in fact be a bad basis to even vote for a guy in the first place.

Meanwhile, many of Reagan's most effective, memorable and even charming traits just get glossed over or ignored by the idiots trying to get him canonised. I feel bad for the guy, but I knew this was going to get totally out of control once he passed away.


Phaedrus

 

[JoeContrarian]

Not true, Phaedrus.

Without Reagan, at best, Communism would have been downsized and still with us, rather than completely collapsing onto itself. The Soviets would have simply scaled back -- assuming that would have been even neccesary had Reagan not come along. Reagan had the unique way of both denouncing and engaging the enemy at the same time. And he confronted them on every front imaginable -- conventional and not so conventional.

You mentioned The Pope. Among his many assaults against communism, Reagan formed alliances, designed to stir internal civil unrest in countries such as Poland (National Security Decision Directive 32). During Reagan's term, The head of the CIA at the time, William Casey, hand picked by Reagan, flew many top secret missions to the Vatican, discussing their common objectives. So when The Pope made a visit to his native country, much of the narrative encompassing values such as 'freedom' were no accident. In addition, with money from the CIA, and various secret Vatican bank accounts, Reagan stirred up a lot of trouble for the Soviets in one their Communist republics. It worked.

Reagan's message of freedom and hope was heard behind in the Iron Curtain in every one of the Communist satellite states. It was Reagan's staunch support of movements (SD32) which began a yearning for freedom by their peoples, the Soviets could no longer contain. This being merely one of many fronts, in Reagan's war against the "Evil Empire."

While revisionists refuse to give the man his due, the Soviets at the time, by their own words and deeds, didn't share the same analysis. You can go back and slog through the records: the newspaper articles, speeches, chronologies etc.

The Reagan timeline is well documented and detailed but goes something like this:

Fall 1981 - The largest defense build-up in American history commences (1.5 trillion over 5 years).

1981 - Funding for the contras in Nicaragua begins.

1982-1983 - Secret Directives NSDD-13, NSDD-32, NSDD-66 and NSDD-75 signed by Reagan to begin offensive against Soviets.

1983 - Evil Empire speech given.

1983 - SDI program begun.

1983 - Deployment of Pershing II and cruise missiles in Europe.

Oct. 1983 - Grenada invasion

Spring 1985 - Gorbachev becomes General secretary of Soviet Union.

November 1985 - Geneva summit with Gorbachev.

1985 - Reagan doubles SDI funding over next two years.

1985 - Reagan signs secret directive NSDD-166 to fight to win in Afghanistan.

1986 - Rejkavik summit. Reagan resists Gorbachev attempt to eliminate SDI.

1987 - Reagan and Gorbachev meet for Washington Summit. Sign treaty eliminating missiles in Europe on both sides.

1988 - Reagan visits Moscow for Moscow summit.

1989 - Soviet forces retreat from Afghanistan. Berlin Wall comes down.

Reagan won the Cold War.

The other items of contention you mentioned, (Iran/Iraq war etc) are apples and oranges and not relevant to the topic at hand. Reagan had bigger fish to fry, rather than occupy himself with "the looney tunes" as he once called them, in the ME. Washington's alliance with Iraq is well documented, however such decisions are almost always the choices of between bad and much, much, worse.

Fuck! Of all the people in here, the one person I do not want to get dragged into a debate with, is Phaedrus. The guy has proven relentless in his tactics, wearing his opponent down. But he's still wrong -- at least in this case.

 

[bblight]

Are the Reaganites getting to the Kool-Aid phase of the get-together anytime soon? Sure would be nice to have the world cleansed of that guy's sycophants so hell-bent on rewriting history.

"Reagan freed the hostages?" Try "Reagan sold America out."

"Reagan was a brilliant military/political strategist?" See also "Iraq-Iran War," the source of most of the problems we have with both of those countries today.

"Reagan ended communism?" Hands-down the most absurd, borderline crazy thing that gets said about the Gipper. Communism ended communism, coincidentally on Reagan's watch. You want to deify anyone for the end of communism, try Pope John Paull II or that batshit Tito, both of whom did at least as much as Reagan to be thorns in the side of the USSR. One day, when/if you grow out of your Reagan phase, you'll understand that you idolise him only because he is merely a Politician Who Thinks Like You™ and that this is not only a bad basis for pagan idolatry but may in fact be a bad basis to even vote for a guy in the first place.

Meanwhile, many of Reagan's most effective, memorable and even charming traits just get glossed over or ignored by the idiots trying to get him canonised. I feel bad for the guy, but I knew this was going to get totally out of control once he passed away.


Phaedrus

Phaedrus - your statement indicates that you're typical of the left wing dumbing down - all of the revisionist lies you want to tell are just so much caca!

The Democrats hate Reagan because he beat them at their own game.

The Democrat Jimmy Carter left the economy in a shambles with interest on home mortgages hovering at 16% - that's sixteen percent! The economy couldn't have been much worse. He signed a tax increase that made the economy even more worse.

The Democrat Jimmy Carter was paralyzed - unable to make a move while the Iranians held American hostages for more than a year - flaunting Carters inability to perform in front of the rest of the world.

The Democrat Jimmy Carter had alienated the Democrat congress and couldn't get any kind of meaningful legislation passed.

Reagan brought honor and self respect back to the United Sates.

Reagan signed the largest nuclear disarmament treaty in history

Reagan single handedly sent the Soviets obver the brink through his star wars program and his publicity blitz - we still hear his famous words - "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall".

Reaganomics took the nation on a 25 year boom that still hasn't ended.

Reagan was a great man and a great President - IMO, the greatest in my lifetime.

 

[JinnRikki]

Peanuts, get your peanuts here!!arty:

 

[cussin'it]

:lolBIG:

How about something like Reagan's massive military expenditure obsession, at the expense of many needed homeland issues, helped facilitate the Soviet's self-destruction?

I'll take a tall boy with those peanuts :drink:

 

[JinnRikki]

Oct. 1983 - Grenada invasion

You must mean that cute little thing he did instead of fighting Islamofacists in Lebanon after they bombed the Marine barracks. That invasion.