VERY subjective. I would say for most friendly games, check-raising would be out, but it really should be decided beforehand. If it's available then it should be able to be used with no bad stigma.
I play friendly games, but we're all frequent poker players. Playing a poker game without check-raising to us is like playing a game of chess with no knights.
If you play a short-handed game and don't allow check-raising, the positional advantage/disadvantage becomes enormous. The button rotates, so each person gets an equal number of shots at the late spots. WIthout checkraising, however, it creates a very big disparity in the advantage from hand to hand.
For me poker is war, friendly game or not. That's what makes the game exciting and challenging. If your goal is to be entertained, and smoke cigars and drink brandy and toss some cards and chips around, then I think check-raising sdoesn't really fit.
I play friendly games, but we're all frequent poker players. Playing a poker game without check-raising to us is like playing a game of chess with no knights.
If you play a short-handed game and don't allow check-raising, the positional advantage/disadvantage becomes enormous. The button rotates, so each person gets an equal number of shots at the late spots. WIthout checkraising, however, it creates a very big disparity in the advantage from hand to hand.
For me poker is war, friendly game or not. That's what makes the game exciting and challenging. If your goal is to be entertained, and smoke cigars and drink brandy and toss some cards and chips around, then I think check-raising sdoesn't really fit.
I know what he means about check-raising being unfriendly though. Some games are just set up as social events and are very laid back. They aren't meant to be cutthroat. I think poker is a game of psychology, and if check-raising means that your friends think you're an ass then I think that check-raising might be the wrong move from a social aspect as well as from a money aspect. You may not be invited back.
David I see your point but only if it is agreed before anyone sits down to play. No check raising should be a rule for example like only 3 raises per card. Are head fakes bad form in a friendly game of one on one basketball?
I remember learning how to play poker as a kid in games with my uncles, they were ruthless even with a youngster as I was at the time. The lessons learned back then have prooved useful over the years. One uncle was always table bully saying things like "check you hat - I raise" etc. Ah the memories
wil.
I remember learning how to play poker as a kid in games with my uncles, they were ruthless even with a youngster as I was at the time. The lessons learned back then have prooved useful over the years. One uncle was always table bully saying things like "check you hat - I raise" etc. Ah the memories
wil.
check-raising is strategy pure and simple. saying that it should not be allowed is dumbing the game down.
doyle brunson- if they dont allow check raising, they are such square players that the benefits of playing with them outweigh the loss of losing check-raise.
he's right and its not even close. only suckers object to check raise.
I'm not even by any means a good poker player either
doyle brunson- if they dont allow check raising, they are such square players that the benefits of playing with them outweigh the loss of losing check-raise.
he's right and its not even close. only suckers object to check raise.
I'm not even by any means a good poker player either
That's what i'm saying and for someone to do it, when no one has done it after 2 hours of playing and doing it because i'm up.wilheim said:
Just to give you an idea of the kind of people playing in this game, after I started jacking up my bets after seeing the first two cards, my name officially had the word "F*cking" before it. :blowup1:
Fat Tony
Snap is a game played in England by 3 year olds - it is the first card game kids learn - basically each player turns over a cards (they are divided amongst players) and when two cards of the same number follow one another the first player to call "Snap" wins all the cards - player with all cards at the end wins.
My analogy is that if you want to play Poker then all the rules and etiquette that are associated with it go with that game and that if you feel that it is "unfriendly" to do that then you should take up something a little more friendly like ballet, charity work or playing "Snap"
Snap is a game played in England by 3 year olds - it is the first card game kids learn - basically each player turns over a cards (they are divided amongst players) and when two cards of the same number follow one another the first player to call "Snap" wins all the cards - player with all cards at the end wins.
My analogy is that if you want to play Poker then all the rules and etiquette that are associated with it go with that game and that if you feel that it is "unfriendly" to do that then you should take up something a little more friendly like ballet, charity work or playing "Snap"
