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The financial timebomb of becoming an old git.

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Why your parents are ripping you off

By Laurence Kotlikoff
Professor of economics, Boston University


Are we heading for conflict between the older and younger generations? It's the scenario played out in this week's drama documentary If...the Generations Fall Out.

Will the young rebel against paying to support an ageing population?
Far-fetched? Not so, says Laurence Kotlikoff, professor of economics at Boston University, who thinks that unless the baby boomers pay up, parents and children could soon be at war.

Whether we want to accept it or not, the entire developed world is getting old, indeed, very old.

Over the next three decades the numbers of oldsters in the EU, Japan, and the US will more than double, while the number of workers expected to pay the elderly their state pension and health care benefits will rise by less than 10%.

The developed world is not just getting old. It's going to get old and then get even older. In 2100, the elderly share of developed world populations will be higher than in any year in this century.

The magnitude of the prospective ageing is hard to wrap one's head around.



In 2030, the entire United States will be older than present-day Florida.

Imagine visiting Washington DC and not meeting anyone younger than 100

Two decades later, the number of old-old Americans, those 85 and older, will suffice to fill up New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and several other major US cities.

And the number of American centenarians in 2050 will suffice to populate Washington DC.

Imagine visiting Washington DC and not meeting anyone younger than 100.

Fiscal strain

If this sounds old, note that America will be the young kid on the block. Both Europe and Japan will be significantly older than the United States.

This demographic phenomenon is unprecedented in human history.

It will generate enormous social, political, economic, and fiscal strains, the prospects of which are being largely ignored by our political leaders.

When an unstoppable force meets an immovable barrier, something has to give

With respect to fiscal strains, we need to realise that right here and right now the developed world is bankrupt; there is no possibility of raising taxes high enough to cover all the pension and health care benefits promised to current and future retirees.

And trying to drop the entire bill into our children's laps isn't any solution. It's not only immoral, it's also infeasible. Doing so would entail more than doubling their lifetime rates of taxation.

Unstoppable force

Radically and immediately restructuring and cutting benefit programs is essential, but, it seems, politically unacceptable. But when an unstoppable force meets an immovable barrier, something has to give.

What will give in this case is the printing press.

Governments throughout the developed world will resort to printing money to "pay" what they owe. The result will be extended periods of very high inflation, if not hyperinflation, during which governments renege on what they owe by paying their bills with waterdown currency.

There are meaningful, if very painful, policy reforms that can still save the day.


In the film, the young protest under the slogan: We pay, they play
But they have to be undertaken immediately.

These reforms include asking the current rich and middle class elderly to help pay off existing government pension liabilities and then setting up a rational, efficient, inexpensive, and highly diversified system of individual compulsory saving accounts.

Another key reform is providing government health care to the elderly through a voucher system in which individual vouchers are determined based on the elderly recipient's current health status and the overall expenditure on vouchers is capped at what the country can afford.

Another Argentina?

Another key reform is to switch from economically meaningless deficit accounting to generational accounting - a new method of long-term fiscal planning that focuses on the fiscal burden to be handed to young and future generations.

These and other reforms could keep the developed world from becoming another Argentina, but their acceptance by the public will require a degree of maturity and concern for the next generation that goes far beyond anything we've seen to date.

This grim assessment suggests that we each need to look out for ourselves and plan for a much rougher retirement ride than we had expected.

This entails saving much more, thinking about how to avoid future taxes, looking out for high future rates of inflation, and realising that when the fiscal system implodes, the economy will do likewise.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/if/3520800.stm
 

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Hehehehehehehehehe.

This is what happens when you run a Ponzi scheme -- eventually the people getting paid far exceed the people paying in, and it all falls over and everybody gets his heart broken and all that.

In every country in the world (except, strangely, Italy) it is illegal to run a Ponzi scheme. Yet, virtually every government in the world does this very thing and disguises it as old age benefits.

What's that? Governments indulging in double standards in order to garner political capital? Say it ain't so!


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F'n boomers.

My grandparents and I had an enormous disagreement just two days ago about what their (and my parents) generation are doing to mine. It centred around receiving state pension benefits, which, in my estimation, should be only for those who would be homeless without it. As it stands now, they ALL feel entitled to receive it, despite the fact that it's monetary worth is not only relatively low, but also unsustainable. My generation fully understands that there will be no CPP by the time we retire, and most are planning accordingly. I just wish the generations ahead of us could do the same.
 

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I know a lot of people like when it comes to SSI,they got more money than god...but they still want that check...even though they paid only 3 or 4 dollars a week back in 50's and 60's,and they have collected about 10 times more than they put in....thats what people are like though.
 

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Part of the blame lies with successive administrations (in the UK anyway) treating that cash as revenue, and spending it, instead of investing it as a capital pension item.

The old state industry pension schemes, like the Post Office (old GPO) are self sustaining and ex-employees do very nicely thankyou.

The UK government has basically done the same dumb thing as a lot of people have done in the good times,
it spent the cash,
instead of saving/investing for its' future.

The Thatcher gangsters obliterated any remote chance of recovery by flogging off huge sections of publicly owned assets, back to the public..?? and then splurging the cash on revenue items.

So now we just wait for the revenue pyramid scheme to collapse...?

Maybe I should just go get myself a gun and become a libertarian...
 
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Part of the blame??????????????????????

Ready students?

Social Security was a brilliant plan devised by a very bright actuary. The plan was working fine and would've continued working fine until Johnson decided to introduce COLA to the equation.

Nothing more than the liberal socialists handing out more money and screwing up yet another facet of american life.
 
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BTw just to show you how stupid John Kerry and his entourage are,

the state of FLA is largely composed on senior citizens,

low rates hurt fixed income folks the most,

I will bet that the entire democratic regime is too ignorant to even recognize this to exploit it.
 

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