"I'm not going to Notre Dame. Ever."

[MajorGCG]

Not that it matters...just thought I'd post it since it was a topic of conversation recently.

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/...Urban-Meyer-I-m-not-going-to-Notre-Dame-Ever-

 

[bigtendominator]

I really didn't see any reason for him to leave. However, with that being said, these days anything can happen. I was shocked when Billy Donovan even accepted the Magic job. I figured if nobody would leave it would be donovan. He saw his mentor screw up in the NBA. Also, Gville is good place to live among other factors.


It just doesn't make sense at this time. ND has a long way to go. It will be interesting to see how Florida does after Tebow leaves, but still much easier recruiting to UF than ND. 17 ACTs are accepted at Florida, not so much in South Bend.

 

[MajorGCG]

I think people will be quite surprised at how good UF will be once Tebow is gone. Brantley is damn good. I think you'll see UF's O look more like the '07 Pats.

 

[FairWarning]

Not sure why this is even a story, unless SEC coaches are behind the rumors. I get the South Bend Tribune every day, and they never talk about Meyer. I would say, if Meyer were to leave Florida, it wouldn't surprise me if it were to FSU or Miami.

 

[TOOTIGHT]

Well, I was completely wrong about this one. Thanks for clearing it up. I was listening to a talk radio program and they had me pretty convinced Meyer would take the job. Guess they were full of it....

 

[MajorGCG]

There's no reason for Meyer to go the ND. He has everything ND has and a lot that they don't. This is like people saying Stoops is coming to UF when the Gators had an opening. Where is Bob? Still in Norman of course.

 

[CoachCB]

Not sure why this is even a story, unless SEC coaches are behind the rumors. I get the South Bend Tribune every day, and they never talk about Meyer. I would say, if Meyer were to leave Florida, it wouldn't surprise me if it were to FSU or Miami.

It's a story because just last week Paul Feinbaum (Alabama/Birmingham writer/talk radio host) wrote an unsubstantiated story and announced that he had some "big news that UF fans aren't going to like...." Then his story comes out w/ absolutely no quotes....just his opinion.

As far as "how good Florida will be w/out Tebow..." - I'm sure there will be a drop off, obviously. But not just losing Tebow, UF will lose a handful of other important starters and contributors off of this year's team (Spikes, Stamper, Cooper, Nelson) including some juniors (could be Hernandez, Haden, Wright, both Pouncey's). But, if it's those wondering how UF will do at quarterback? UF will be fine. There will never be another Tebow. But the kid being groomed is outstanding, John Brantley. He'll be a 4th year Junior next year and has been mentored, played and watched under one of the best college football players of all times. He has a NFL arm and orginally committed to Texas. He was the Gatorade POY coming out of HS. The kid is going to be very good (barring injury).

This is Meyer's 5th year. UF is in the USC, Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma mold now (reload....not rebuild). There will always be a drop off when a new QB takes over. Very few programs improve in the first year of a new starting QB (and how can you improve off of what UF has done under Tebow). But keep in mind, UF's record in Tebow's first year was 9-4. I think Brantley does better than that when he takes over.....

 

[BigdaddyQH]

Florida State has a "coach in waiting" and Miami is in too much disarray for Meyer to go there. This whole thing was started when Meyer made a statement saying that he would love to coach Notre Dame. Everyone knows that Florida will fall next year, but that is to be expected. I see no reason for Meyer to leave, unless there is something brewing that we do not know about. The last thing Meyer wants to do is face the likes of Pete Carroll every year. His refusal to leave Florida for non-con games proves that. So does his very soft non-con schedules. I just do not think Meyer wants any part of playing USC, Michigan, and Michigan State, every year.

 

[FairWarning]

Florida State has a "coach in waiting" and Miami is in too much disarray for Meyer to go there. This whole thing was started when Meyer made a statement saying that he would love to coach Notre Dame. Everyone knows that Florida will fall next year, but that is to be expected. I see no reason for Meyer to leave, unless there is something brewing that we do not know about. The last thing Meyer wants to do is face the likes of Pete Carroll every year. His refusal to leave Florida for non-con games proves that. So does his very soft non-con schedules. I just do not think Meyer wants any part of playing USC, Michigan, and Michigan State, every year.

Meyer said that years ago about going to ND. ND showed their respect by low-balling him on a contract offer, figuring he would automatically jump.

 

[pensfan1919]

I just do not think Meyer wants any part of playing USC, Michigan, and Michigan State, every year.

USC yes the others no. He could handle playing Michigan and Michigan St. every year if he can handle the SEC schedule.

 

[BigdaddyQH]

The bottom line is that Meyer should be confortable at Florida. Now the important thing for him is not to screw up like so many other successful colleges coaches have done and go jumping into the NFL.

 

[GoSooners]

You can probably count on one hand the amount of coaches in the last 10 years who have quit one division 1 school for another. I'm talking about quitting a school. Not getting fired from one and then going to another. The only coach I can think of who moved from one school to the next is Tom O'Brien going from Boston College to NC State. I'm still not sure what the exact reason was for O'Brien's lateral move. But a big deal was made of it at the time because it rarely happens. The only other coach I can think of who went directly from one school to the next in successive seasons was Houston Nutt. But i'm not sure Nutt had Ole Miss in mind when he quit Arkanasas. He left Arkasas because the heat was coming down from several allegations...For the most part, once a coach is at a school and he's making the big money, and the alums are happy, there's basically no reason for him to leave. As long as Meyer at Florida or Miles at LSU runs clean programs and keeps in good standing and they keep winning, it's very doubtful that either will leave. Unlike Boston College, those are bigtime schools, and there usually has to be some huge controversy of some kind to get a coach to budge off these kinds of coaching jobs.

 

[YourAllAmerican]

Brady Hoke, Brian Kelly, Paul Johnson off the top of my head in the last couple of seasons. I think what you mean is a coach leaving a top-level Division I school, not just any D-I place, to go to another. Those are tougher to think of.

 

[GoSooners]

Brady Hoke, Brian Kelly, Paul Johnson off the top of my head in the last couple of seasons. I think what you mean is a coach leaving a top-level Division I school, not just any D-I place, to go to another. Those are tougher to think of.

AA...Division 1 schools are what I'm talking about. Once a coach has earned that kind of prestige, it's very hard to move him off of it unless there is some kind of controversy involved. One other coach that I can think of now that made a division 1 move was Les Miles from OSU to LSU. But Miles was a controversial coach at OSU much like Jimmy Johnson was before he left for Miami. And he got out while the getting was good. LSU and Miami were also a move up for both coaches. Miles going to Michigan or Meyer to ND isn't going to be a move up for either of these coaches. Florida was Meyer's big move up from a non-division 1 school Utah. This guy has a couple degrees from college. My guess is he's smart enough to know when he's got a good thing. Miles would be more likley to move because he's just the kind of dumbass that would leave a school for no reason. His big mouth will probably get him in trouble again before it's all over.

 

[bigtendominator]

Tom left BC because he was frustrated by the lack of support for the program. People don't realize he did a great job up their.

They were in a pro town and in place where the other teams not only were good, but they were the best in their respective sports. Since 2000, NE sports teams have won 6 titles in pro sports, that is an amazing run.

BC only sold out vs ND. He never was going to get the support the team deserved. Even the hoops team only sells out against Duke or UNC.

 

[CoachCB]

GS,

I think your arguement about moving from a Big-time D1 school to another is a better discussion than a D1 coach going to another D1 school. That happens every year:

Hawkins left Boise for Colorado.
Meyer left Bowling Green for Utah....left Utah for UF.
June Jones left Hawaii for SMU.
Brian Kelly to Cincinatti
Rich Rod to Michigan
Plus Hoke and Paul Johnson (mentioned earlier)

The list goes on and on.

Turner Gill will do it soon. Kelly will do it, again, soon.

ND coming after Meyer is similar to when UF went after Stoops after Spurrier left. I don't see it happening...but who knows?

 

[GoSooners]

CoachCB....My thinking was strictly coaches moving from one BCS conference school to another. Rich Rod was another one that I missed. But that move was still a move up. Very few make lateral moves. It's almost always a move up from a non-BCS school or from a lesser BCS school. Once a coach gets to the the pinnacle of coaching, it's very hard to move him off of that position unless there are recruiting violations or some other allegations that destroys a coach's good standing. I agree about Kelly, he'll soon be gone from Cincy. Possibly Patterson leaving TCU too.

 

[MajorGCG]

IMO moving from UF to ND is a step down not up. ND can't offer what UF can these days. This ain't the 1950's.

 

[YourAllAmerican]

I'm surprised Patterson is still at TCU. I hear he likes it in Forth Worth, but I sure would have guessed he'd have moved on to the greener pastures of a BCS school by now. Maybe he's just being picky and waiting for a dream job.

 

[bigtendominator]

I'm surprised Patterson is still at TCU. I hear he likes it in Forth Worth, but I sure would have guessed he'd have moved on to the greener pastures of a BCS school by now. Maybe he's just being picky and waiting for a dream job.

Gary has no fucking personality. There are lot of great X's and O's guys out there. However, being the HC at a major school is more than coaching. It involves fundraising, dealing with boosters, etc.

I am not saying Rich Rod and some others are great at it, but it really has a lot to do with that. That is basically why Gill didn't get the job at Auburn. Not that Gill lacks personality, but the alum/boosters wanted a white guy instead.