Ill say this about abortion....

[fletchisrhsm]

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 10"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 10"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CRHSM%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" name="stockticker"></o:smarttagtype><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) ** </style> <![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";** @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;** div.Section1 {page:Section1;** --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";** </style> <![endif]--> I personally dont beleive in it, nor would i ever want someone to have one that i was reasponsible for, i cannot make that choice for the entire country. So im pro choice but there should be limits. Im not a Doctor so i dont know what the cutoff should be or what the limitations might be but at the end of the day there has to be some order, having abortions late in pregnancy is <st1:stockticker>IMO</st1:stockticker> over the bounds of decency.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

One reason im personally against abortion. Look at the possibility of life....

 

[festeringZit]

One reason im personally against abortion. Look at the possibility of life....

I'm with you there Fletch.

 

[Mistermj]

Society imposes its standards on others all the time...for what it deems fit for a civil society.

This argument that we can't tell others what to do is false...and the femanazi's have gotten away with it for too long.

It's a false premise.

 

[Snookslayer]

When pro-life people allow exceptions for cases of rape and incest, they're whole argument falls apart.

I tend to be in favor of more liberties for Americans, not less. Woman should have this right.

 

[festeringZit]

When pro-life people allow exceptions for cases of rape and incest, they're whole argument falls apart.

I tend to be in favor of more liberties for Americans, not less. Woman should have this right.

Um, this pro-lifer believes there is no moral reason for abortion, other
than (maybe) to save the life of the mother if she makes that choice.

 

[Mistermj]

When pro-life people allow exceptions for cases of rape and incest, they're whole argument falls apart.

I tend to be in favor of more liberties for Americans, not less. Woman should have this right.

You can't justify elevating the womans right at the expense of anothers.

It is fundamentally wrong. Why can't people see that?

To justify that a woman has a right to anything is to admit the baby has rights as well.

It takes rather low intelligence to not see the fallacy in the argument for abortion.

 

[barman]

This argument that we can't tell others what to do is false...

Nothing stopping you from telling other American adults what to do.

Just don't be startled when your mandate is cheerfully ignored by millions of Americans (directly or indirectly) every year.

 

[Snookslayer]

Um, this pro-lifer believes there is no moral reason for abortion, other
than (maybe) to save the life of the mother if she makes that choice.

That's fine. I just meant in general.

Just for argument's sake - do you think it's immoral to execute prisoners? A lot of pro-lifers don't. Which again, I think is a bit inconsistent.

 

[barman]

To justify that a woman has a right to anything is to admit the baby has rights as well.

In the United States of America, it's not a baby until the pregnant female agrees to carry it to term. Til then, it's just a fetus. And most of us believe in putting the pregnant female ahead of the fetus if push comes to shove.

 

[Snookslayer]

To justify that a woman has a right to anything is to admit the baby has rights as well.

People have rights. Fetus's don't.

 

[Mistermj]

Nothing stopping you from telling other American adults what to do.

Just don't be startled when your mandate is cheerfully ignored by millions of Americans (directly or indirectly) every year.

Thats what the Confederacy said once too...and they were dead wrong.

 

[barman]

Cool. Let me know when the US military declares war against pregnant American females and then we'll revisit your analogy.

 

[barman]

Don't make me post a photo image of a can of RAID BUG SPRAY

d1g1t

 

[Mistermj]

People have rights. Fetus's don't.

It's not a fetus...its a baby.

Fetus is not used in general parlance.

We're having a baby...I'm with baby. When is the baby due?

Not...we're having a fetus...I'm with fetus...When is your fetus due?

Fetus is just word play in an attempt to distance the baby from being human.

Word play is always a sign of weakness of argument or manipulation.

 

[festeringZit]

Obama voted 4 times to deny rights to live babies born
during attempted abortions.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

[tocco05]

Obama voted 4 times to deny rights to live babies born
during attempted abortions.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

ope:ope:

 

[festeringZit]

It's not a fetus...its a baby.

Fetus is not used in general parlance.

We're having a baby...I'm with baby. When is the baby due?

Not...we're having a fetus...I'm with fetus...When is your fetus due?

Fetus is just word play in an attempt to distance the baby from being human.

Word play is always a sign of weakness of argument or manipulation.

Besides the argument falls apart when you consider that it was
"lawful" to slaughter Jews during the Nazi regime. Some people on here
think that as long as some law is in place that that automatically
makes the execution/abortion moral.

They can play the little word game all they want, but the truth is,
it is a live human being with rights, that feels pain, and has emotions,
and doesn't like having a knife stuck in it's head in order to crush
it's skull and kill it - the guilt of the baby? Just being alive.

Sick, sick, sick.

(Oh, but someone on here likens it to a c0ck-roach).

 

[RobFunk]

Unh, isnt it sort of queer to worry about abortions?!

Do you guys worry about what brand of douche women use too?

 

[Snookslayer]

Fetus is just word play in an attempt to distance the baby from being human.

Word play is always a sign of weakness of argument or manipulation.

Regardless of what you call them, they don't have rights until they're born or at least near-born (depending on which state your in).