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Hoosiers showed a passion for a potpourri of pressing civic issues Tuesday night.

At a town hall meeting in the chambers of the Indiana House of Representatives, an overflow audience of 250 people sounded off about Medicaid cuts, the I-69 extension project, gambling, gay marriage, education funding and daylight-saving time.

About a dozen of Indiana's 150 legislators attended the People's Agenda forum, sponsored by The Indianapolis Star, WFYI (Channel 20 and 90.1 FM) and WTHR (Channel 13), The Star's news-gathering partner.

Proposed cuts in the state's Medicaid program drew the most comments and the strongest audience responses.

Betty Bledsoe, 42, Indianapolis, urged legislators "to look somewhere else for the cuts."

She's a foster parent who has cared for 200 children in 14 years and adopted 16. She said she has 11 children in her home now who receive Medicaid benefits, some for severe disabilities.

House Bill 292 would allow Gov. Mitch Daniels to save money by limiting or excluding optional Medicaid services such as dental coverage, mental health services and waivers allowing home care for the severely disabled.

Bledsoe said home care is cheaper than putting the children in full-time care facilities.

"We are saving the state a lot of money," she said. "They should realize that."

This was the fifth People's Agenda forum, and, as in the past, the I-69 extension was a hot topic. And, as they did last year, most speakers opposed it.

"I've been listening to the state's hearings on I-69 for 10 years, and I can tell you 60 to 80 percent of the people are against it," said Greg Foote, 80, a retired teacher from Indianapolis. "When we are given the opportunity to speak, we say we oppose it, but what we say gets thrown right into the wastebasket."

The $1.7 billion plan would build a new highway from Indianapolis to Evansville.

Some at the forum also said they oppose Mayor Bart Peterson's plan to finance a new stadium for the Indianapolis Colts by expanding gambling. Peterson wants lawmakers to allow pull-tab machines -- similar to slot machines -- in the city, with part of the winnings used to pay off the stadium.

Dan Gangler, 58, Clermont, said the stadium should be financed by a $10 tax on Colts tickets.

"The people who use it should pay for it," said Gangler, who works in communications for the United Methodist Church. He also warned that expanding gambling would increase the number of compulsive gamblers.

Ali Murtaugh, 19, Lafayette, said she favored a change to daylight-saving time because a later sunset would reduce crime.

With daylight-saving time, "people get home from work and school and complete more errands and chores in daylight," said Murtaugh, a student at DePauw University. "By doing this, it allows them to reduce their exposure to various crimes which are more common in darkness."

She also said the switch would reduce car accidents.

Legislators in the gallery listened patiently during the 90-minute forum, and some addressed the audience afterward.

Sen. Gary Dillon, R-Columbia City, ranking member of the Health and Provider Services Committee, was the lone member of that committee in attendance. He said he doesn't want to see benefits for the needy cut.

"I don't think any of us want to jeopardize necessary care for people who need it," he said. "We're in difficult times. We need to look at everything and consider everything."

Sen. Earline Rogers, D-Gary, said town hall gatherings are an excellent opportunity for face-to-face exchanges with constituents.

"I think it's very valuable for us as legislators to hear what people have to say," Rogers said. "We have varying ways of getting input -- letters, e-mails, phone calls -- but when people take the time to physically come out and voice their concerns, I give that greater weight. It's important for us to be able to listen to their concerns."

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Bill 1191 wants to make me a felon for gambling and wants to cut off internet access for me to even read about gambling, but the mayor wants to expand gambling so to help fill the state pockets. I would liked to have been there and discussed this, but as you read, only About a dozen of Indiana's 150 legislators attended. Like they really give a chit. I will be able to play slots, but not read on how to win????

What a Government. :icon_conf
 
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The General said:
Bill 1191 wants to make me a felon for gambling and wants to cut off internet access for me to even read about gambling, but the mayor wants to expand gambling so to help fill the state pockets. I would liked to have been there and discussed this, but as you read, only About a dozen of Indiana's 150 legislators attended. Like they really give a chit. I will be able to play slots, but not read on how to win????

What a Government. :icon_conf
your WORRYING for nothing man it will never pass
 
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GENERAL--Wish you would have attended and I was there to listen.

You have a great way with words and I would have loved to see you give your stance as I watched out of the corner of my eye as the legislaters squirmed in their chairs.
 
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Gambling bills get hearing today

Two House lawmakers said Tuesday they aren't tied to the idea of letting the state's horse tracks operate thousands of new slot machines that would help pay for a new stadium for the Indianapolis Colts.

Republican Reps. Michael Murphy, of Indianapolis, and Luke Messer, of Shelbyville, say they want to meet Gov. Mitch Daniels' demand that the General Assembly have a competitive bidding process among companies trying to profit from slots.

"I've absolutely heard the governor's concerns," said Messer, who's also executive director of the Indiana Republican Party.

The House Public Policy and Veterans Affairs Committee will take up the lawmakers' competing slot machine bills today. But Chairman Robert Alderman, R-Fort Wayne, said he was not sure whether he would call today for a vote on either measure.

Indianapolis Mayor Bart Peterson announced plans last month for a $500 million retractable-roof stadium and a $300 million expansion of the Indiana Convention Center.

Messer's bill would set aside $30 million a year for the city. Murphy's bill would give Peterson $48 million a year for 30 years to build the new stadium as part of a proposed Colts deal and buy out the Colts' RCA Dome lease.

Both lawmakers' bills would allow 2,500 slot machines each at horse tracks in Anderson and Shelbyville. If either plan were passed, the number of slot machines in Indiana would jump to 23,000 from about 18,000, an increase of nearly 28 percent.

Daniels has said repeatedly he doesn't want more gambling. But he also said last week that any additional money should go toward one-time expenses and investments, such as the new stadium, or undoing payment delays to public schools, state universities and local governments.

Both GOP lawmakers said they intend to amend their bills to meet this request.

Nonetheless, Messer acknowledged that "at the end of the day, it's unlikely two bills will make it out of committee."

In whatever form a bill emerges, the budget-writing House Ways and Means Committee is likely to schedule a hearing on it before it reaches the House floor for a vote.

Alderman said he has not determined how much competition there can be among gambling companies to operate the new slots. And a spokesman for the Indiana Horse Racing and Breeding Association said the effective tax rates in both bills already are high enough to ensure a fair return for Indiana taxpayers without throwing the operations open to competition.

"We consider this bad news for the horse industry in general," said Michael Brown, a spokesman for the group.

But Daniels and other critics have voiced concerns about generating a windfall for investors in Hoosier Park at Anderson and Indiana Downs at Shelbyville by giving them the exclusive right to open slots parlors. Messer tried to address this by requiring a $50 million, one-time licensing fee, but critics say the value to the track owners could be far higher than the fee.

Messer said he wants to increase by 8.3 percent the amount of gambling tax money his measure would set aside for Indiana's horse-racing industry. Instead of 12 percent of the revenue, he would give the industry 13 percent.

He also wants to amend the legislation, House Bill 1569, so it would set aside $33 million a year to benefit Hoosier communities without gambling operations.

Like Messer, Murphy said he intends to propose major revisions today to his legislation, HB 1702.

Murphy said he would direct $13 million a year to Allen County, Alderman's home, for economic development projects and $5 million a year to Indianapolis Public Schools to help finance up to $100 million of building projects.

The remainder of gambling tax money raised by Murphy's bill would go to the Indiana Economic Development Corp. for local projects and job-creation efforts.

Last week, Daniels, a Republican, suggested that Peterson, a Democrat, could consider raising Marion County's income tax rate from 0.7 percent of adjusted gross income to 1.0 percent to pay for a new stadium. But when Peterson testifies at today's hearing, he will maintain that creating new gambling options in Marion County is preferable to raising taxes, said Deputy Mayor Steve Campbell.

"We've come up with a plan that doesn't raise taxes," Campbell said. "We're not asking the state to write a check. That's our message."
 
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I am 100% against expanding casino gambling, but not for the reasons you may think. Yes casino gambling destroys lives and tears the moral fabric of a community, but whether one gambles is an individual choice, just like drinking. My objection to the government expanding gambling is that I have a philosophical objection to the government making an activity illegal just so they can sell a private licence to a corporation that bribes them with promises of development, tax cuts, and campaign contributions. If I operated a craps table in my home I could be arrested and jailed, but a corporation that bribes the right politicians can do the exact same thing legally. Should the government be allowed to use their power and police to enforce a monopoly for favored persons/companies? I don't think so. Therefore I will always object to the government allowing the expansion of casino gambling because I don't believe that they have the right to tell society who can operate a casino and who can't.
 

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It seems fine and dandy for the govt to allow the rigged gambling games (Lotto & Slots) no problem with the games the citizens get taken to the cleaners with...ironic no, calculated yes.
 
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Number 13 that is a brilliant post and sums up well my arguments not only about gambling, but business in general. So many people fighting nonstop for government to bar something to protect the public when they are only protecting themselves and their interests.
 

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