I have some questions about this terror alert

[lander]

1. If we can read about it in every credible source of media and Fox then doesn't anyone else think that maybe, just maybe, the "terrorists" (assuming this is real) might have caught wind of the information?
After all, they are most successful when their attacks are surprises.

2. WT-mutha-F is the point of having soldiers armed with machine guns in the center of our nation's largest megalopolis? Are we expecting an army? I doubt it, our "enemies" do not have an army - if any attack would occur wouldn't it be a select few terrorists that execute it?

And, accordingly, would a bunch of America's highly skilled snipers be more suitable that the machine gun waiving PFCs? I'd think so.

3. Does anyone else think this timing is just all too coincidental? If anyone else here has seen FunkSoulBrother's graphs then you will know EXACTLY what I am talking about.


Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like shit and smells like shit then it's usually a scare tactic by America's #1 terrorist.

 

[bigbet1234]

first off, the gov. is not telling the whole story. i guarntee, there are snipers.

the presence of armed guards is a deterent. it may look ludicrious to some, but if it adds. saftey it it worth it.

ladner, i know you are anti-bush, anti-war, but if you would have seen the site days after 9-11 in person, you would support everything our president is doing. political or not, we need protection.

we are dealing with people who have no respect for human life

 

[newbie666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> we are dealing with people who have no respect for human life <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

PARDON?...

 

[lander]

first off, the gov. is not telling the whole story. i guarntee, there are snipers.
Of course there are snipers, but do we really need machine guns in Manhattan too? No.

I'm not saying that troops are or are not necessary, but the choice is suspect.

the presence of armed guards is a deterent. it may look ludicrious to some, but if it adds. saftey it it worth it.
Do you honestly think a terrorist gives two shits whether it's an M-16 or an M-60 that hits him? - of course not.

The only deterent is a deterent of the perception of safety for Americans.

ladner, i know you are anti-bush, anti-war, but if you would have seen the site days after 9-11 in person, you would support everything our president is doing. political or not, we need protection.
I worked in NY from 99-04, so I know EXACTLY what pre and post 9/11 was.

I even supported Guillini for making Manhattan safe, so spare me the liberal lead in ...

we are dealing with people who have no respect for human life
Indeed, but the EXACT same can be said about some of our military personal and high ranking officials. To think otherwise is naive.

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As is the general theme, we have people trying to retrofit a premise around a suspect conclusion in the name of nationalism.

Logically speaking - it makes no sense.

 

[SENDITIN]

. If we can read about it in every credible source of media and Fox then doesn't anyone else think that maybe, just maybe, the "terrorists" (assuming this is real) might have caught wind of the information?

Do you think it would be smart to hide this info from the general public? Think somebody might wonder what all the security was about? Not sure what other choice there was.

2. WT-mutha-F is the point of having soldiers armed with machine guns in the center of our nation's largest megalopolis? Are we expecting an army? I doubt it, our "enemies" do not have an army - if any attack would occur wouldn't it be a select few terrorists that execute it?

Why not let the people who know security do their job? There was probably a boatload of security people didn't see as well.

3. Does anyone else think this timing is just all too coincidental? If anyone else here has seen FunkSoulBrother's graphs then you will know EXACTLY what I am talking about.

Your hero Howard Dean was out doing the dirty work today and said the same thing. I'm sure Kerry believes it as well but he can't say that.

Geez Lander how about giving credit to the intel agencies for catching this computer jerk and getting this info. It sounds like we've learned how they've been communicating.

 

[wilheim]

Moved from OS to Politics. Sorry, really did not want to but here is where it belongs.


wil.

 

[lander]

Senditin,
You are arguing for the sake of arguing.

1. Do you think it would be smart to hide this info from the general public? Think somebody might wonder what all the security was about? Not sure what other choice there was.

In other words, you are against any and all classified information? No, of course not, let the HS do their job without the fireworks.

They are looking to create fear for political reasons by bringing all the drama to their day jobs.

2. Why not let the people who know security do their job? There was probably a boatload of security people didn't see as well.

There are snipers at many high profile events. I saw them at the World Games years before 9/11 and that was a low turnout.

Of course, they are there and should be.

The machine guns SERVE NO PURPOSE in the middle of Manhattan except to instill fear into Americans.

3. Your hero Howard Dean was out doing the dirty work today and said the same thing. I'm sure Kerry believes it as well but he can't say that.

Geez Lander how about giving credit to the intel agencies for catching this computer jerk and getting this info. It sounds like we've learned how they've been communicating.

My hero? Are you a fuking retard? I don't care for Dean, except that he's not Bush.

I didn't take any credit away from the intelligence officers -- I am just sick of fuking scumbag leach assholes like Bush, Cheney, Guilliani, and alike using fear to rally support for there political agendas.

Hope you bought a ticket .. this is getting more entertaining that IMAX.

 

[sfeiner]

IF your right about the "timing" of this alert then at the very least it shows the last president brought us something besides educating our elementary school kids on oral sex..he also taught us how to create fake panic attacks at critical times. that now brings the count to 2 great things democrats have done for this country.

"And, accordingly, would a bunch of America's highly skilled snipers be more suitable that the machine gun waiving PFCs? I'd think so"
YOU would but the purpose of the guards is two-fold. #1- the slight chance they could actually stop an attack such as a suicide murderer and #2 -to make the people feel more secure so wall street doesnt shut down. i don't think hidden snipers would accomplish this...besides are you sure those are military troops?? i'm pretty sure we're supposed to clear any use of our troops with KOFI before we send them out to do anything. wouldn't it be just like that damn bush though to do something like that without asking the U.N. first? he's such a liar and you can book it his buddies are getting a huge financial windfall out of all this...just like that time BUSH called CLINTON and had him give haliburton a no-bid contract to rebuild in KOSOVO after we bombed out those sorry ass christians over there...the nerve of those liars to try to keep muslims out of their country. well we showed them didn't we!!! im thinking about maybe 3-4 muslims in the new KERRY cabinet.....sound about right to you?

OFCOURSE what bush should do is what ms.kerry recommends and just ask Natures Angels to come and protect us. mother earth would be glad to save us all if we'd just ask. we could abort a few thousand babies and close off a few million acres of land to show mother earth the respect we have for her power. a small sacrifice for the blessings of god, wouldn't you agree??????

 

[lander]

I'm not sure what are the psychitzo UN and Heinz babblings have to do with anything, but as for the rest ..

IF your right about the "timing" of this alert then at the very least it shows the last president brought us something besides educating our elementary school kids on oral sex..he also taught us how to create fake panic attacks at critical times. that now brings the count to 2 great things democrats have done for this country

Oh, it had been nearly two days .. how could I forget? It was obviously Clinton's fault.

The DOW went up, so it's starting to look more like the American public is giving up on President Duct Tape and wolf cries ...

the scary bit is that this fuker will do ANYTHING to steal power again, including allowing and/or orchestrating an attack between now and Novemember.

YOU would but the purpose of the guards is two-fold. #1- the slight chance they could actually stop an attack such as a suicide murderer and #2 -to make the people feel more secure so wall street doesnt shut down. i don't think hidden snipers would accomplish this...

Because machine gun fire wouldn't set off car bombs? Clearly this would be better than a single shot take out, followed by an evacuation of the area.
Are you so sure of that?

Your theory might want to be proof read by a bomb expert before Dubya gives the Freedom Fry promotion to Ridge's soon-to-be-vacant position.

 

[SENDITIN]

Lander,

Did you know the Governor of New Jersey saw the intel and decided to implement the heavy security in his state? He's a bigger flaming lib than anyone on this board. So I don't think it's a vast right wing conspiracy.

I'm certainly not going to second guess guys with machine guns in the street...I assume they are there to stop speeding trucks/suvs if necessary, but again I'll leave the security up to whoever knows that stuff. I assume NYC has the final say,not Bush as to how far they want to take it.

 

[sfeiner]

ughhhh the streets surronding that area have been closed to vehicles since sept, 01...dont think they're looking for car bombs.

sept 01...boy that brings back memories dont it? just think if gore hadn't had that election stolen from him in tennesse and arkansas we would have surrendered to bin laden on sept 2!!! what a wonderful world this could be if only those damn republicans weren't out to ruin everything. i was so looking forward to hooter girls wearing burkas....and those weekly beheadings....damn damn damn bush!!!!

 

[lander]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfeiner:
ughhhh the streets surronding that area have been closed to vehicles since sept, 01...dont think they're looking for car bombs.

sept 01...boy that brings back memories dont it? just think if gore hadn't had that election stolen from him in tennesse and arkansas we would have surrendered to bin laden on sept 2!!! what a wonderful world this could be if only those damn republicans weren't out to ruin everything. i was so looking forward to hooter girls wearing burkas....and those weekly beheadings....damn damn damn bush!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ugggg .. Citicorp is in Midtown. There is plenty of traffic nearby.

>> 1- the slight chance they could actually
>>stop an attack such as a suicide murderer and

Ok, so machine gun fire wouldn't setoff a suicide bomber's bombs as well as take out bystanders???

Get off your knees and give up the Bush appologies - it's pathetic.

 

[lander]

>> I assume NYC has the final say,not Bush as to how far they want to take it.

Bloomberg isn't much different than the other out-of-touch elites.

I'd have guessed federal policy supresses state and/or local, but I realy do not know.

I'd be interested in an explanation if anyone knows the facts regarding this issue.

 

[SENDITIN]

Quote from Lander:

So, for me it's Dean by default

See I knew he was your boy...took a little hunting to find though.

 

[GAMEFACE]

Bush bad, Kerry good.

Same ole shit different day.

 

[lander]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SENDITIN:
Quote from Lander:

_So, for me it's Dean by default_

See I knew he was your boy...took a little hunting to find though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I clearly remember stating that any of the 11 candidates would do a better job than Bush.

My personal preference was John Edwards, but he was never in a position to win, so I supported Dean, then Kerry as I would have any of the 11 that took the nomination.

If you prefer to quote stuff out of context then, by all means, continue to look like a monkey trying to fuk football.

 

[lander]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GAMEFACE:
Bush bad, Kerry good.

Same ole shit different. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same ol' appologist, different misusage of the English language.

 

[sfeiner]

your correct ...the democrats did away with states rights years ago..just in time for heinz/edwards to turn all the rest of our rights over to kofi and his gang...

 

[lander]

I am strongly in favor of state rights.

I honest cannot comprehend some of you people are too fuking slow to realize that dissent does not equate to liberalism.

Maybe it's just easier to say good/bad, black/white that to think for yourselves; I wouldn't know.

 

[GAMEFACE]

WTF would you do fuk head? Sit back and wait to get hit. They put the info out in hopes it would deter the attack. If it wasn't for idiots like you and the ACLU they would round them up and kick their ass's out of America.

I hope you show in Vegas, I promise you will not say one negative word to me you fukin idiot. I hope you make it.