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I don't have time to post on a regular basis but I spend allot of time tracking NBA data. Some of you may know I am a rocket scientist and I am good at analyzing data. I am convinced of all of the sports that NBA totals are the most beatable sport and here is why.

Baseball: the parks themselves are different and pitching varies by day and is the single biggest factor in the outcome
Football: field size is the same every game but I think coaching has the biggest effect on the outcome. Coaching changes how the teams play and coaches in the nfl are changed often....the season are a small sample only 16 games so finding a good true predictor is difficult. Example look at the Vikings defense last year compared to this year...basically the same players....just a new coach.
Hockey: I don't study much. Rinks vary in size, on the positive there is a large sample size each season, the downside is the small totals numbers 5, 5.5 or 6 typically.
College basketball players turnover too fast.

Basketball has allot of positives. The floor size is a standard, there are allot of games each season, the total you are trying to beat is a large number like 200 so in general one single event in the course of a game doesn't generally effect the outcome (fluke goal, tipped passed or a throwing error).

I have a program that allows me to look at a total in four different methods. I look for at least two of the methods to agree with no disagreement. I also look at if they game plays out like how I think it will.......then which team is going to also cover the spread.

Yesterday I had the highest possible play a 4 unit on Dallas Under the total (all four methods pointed to the under). It also indicated that Dallas would cover the spread. Both were correct. Yesterday there was also a 2 unit play on New Orleans Over the total. It also indicated that Utah would cover too. Once again both right. Doesn't always work this way.

Today the program has a 3 unit on Clippers over the total. It also points to Indiana covering the spread.

On another note I study other factors that I think could be used as a predictor of the total. I have one theory that I have been playing with on and off for a period of time and I think it has some merit and could be eventually added to my program. Most of the games on the board it only basically encourages you to avoid playing an over or under. For example over the last 1000 games it might show 54% of the games in this category went under. 54% is not enough to make me play the under but I would not want to swim upstream and play the over in a game like this. With that said there is one category that doesn't come up very often but when it does I think it is worth playing. Over the last 4 years it has hit over 70%. Tonight it is saying play the Under in Denver/Houston game.

As Always Good Luck

Northern Star
 

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Well I ain't no rocket biologist and my head started to hurt as I got towards the end of the post, but I wish you luck on your endeavors regardless. Hope your data analysis system turns nice profit for you while you post here!
 

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Northern Star - Is your program specific to game totals , or is there a specific set of metrics you utilize to generate selections against the spread ?
 

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love the math and all the data crunching! now my kids' common core math is a whole other problem..... :ohno:
good luck to you tonight and i will be blindly tailing you good sir!
 

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when you say clippers over the total, does that mean team total or game total?
 

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when you say clippers over the total, does that mean team total or game total?

I believe its a game total since yesterdays was (that he said the system had).


GL tonight guys although I will admit it would have been best if Northern Star had posted what total he actually had and what spread if he plans to count Indiana also if it covers... :toast:


-murph
 

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Northern Star - Is your program specific to game totals , or is there a specific set of metrics you utilize to generate selections against the spread ?

The main goal of the program is to determine if the game will go over or under the posted total. I also track in each category if the home team or the away team covers the spread too but that is not the intent of the program. In some categories there is a positive correlation to selecting the side and some categories there is not. I also track how it does against the total for first half lines. I am at work and dont have the exact info infront of me but I know Indiana and over in the first half has a very positive correleation.....probably in the neighborhood of 38 to 40% of the time this game will be Indiana and over versus true odds of just 25%. This would make for a positive expected value betting Indiana and over in the first half which I am doing.

I wish I had second half lines to add to my database because I think there is an even better opportunity to beat the second half line because my guess is that it is a weaker line.
 

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I believe its a game total since yesterdays was (that he said the system had).


GL tonight guys although I will admit it would have been best if Northern Star had posted what total he actually had and what spread if he plans to count Indiana also if it covers... :toast:


-murph

Getting the best number is always helpful in any sport..... Use Clippers over 201 which was the line when I ran the program this morning. Occasionally a line change will alter the selection but I try to use a line somewhere around mid day for the basis of the program every day. The lines can move a quite a bit from the opening and I want a more settled line. They can also change near tip off and I dont want to fool around with that.

For the other game what the line is has no effect on the selection. Use Houston Under 205.5 for record keeping.

As Always Good Luck

Northern Star
 

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so is the houston bet ur bigger bet?

have u posted previously from this system on here?
 

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Probably will personally play them equally. Also will parlay Indiana and over in the first half.

My program has been a work in progress for over 5 years. I never seem totally satisfied and I think the ability to understand how to use the data from 5000-10,000 games has improved....simply back testing data has it flaws and avoiding those flaws is more difficult than you might think and comes from learning from those mistakes.
 

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Are you parlaying Indiana +6.5 with first half over or Indiana +11 with first half over?
 

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I don't have time to post on a regular basis but I spend allot of time tracking NBA data. Some of you may know I am a rocket scientist and I am good at analyzing data. I am convinced of all of the sports that NBA totals are the most beatable sport and here is why.

Baseball: the parks themselves are different and pitching varies by day and is the single biggest factor in the outcome
Football: field size is the same every game but I think coaching has the biggest effect on the outcome. Coaching changes how the teams play and coaches in the nfl are changed often....the season are a small sample only 16 games so finding a good true predictor is difficult. Example look at the Vikings defense last year compared to this year...basically the same players....just a new coach.
Hockey: I don't study much. Rinks vary in size, on the positive there is a large sample size each season, the downside is the small totals numbers 5, 5.5 or 6 typically.
College basketball players turnover too fast.

Basketball has allot of positives. The floor size is a standard, there are allot of games each season, the total you are trying to beat is a large number like 200 so in general one single event in the course of a game doesn't generally effect the outcome (fluke goal, tipped passed or a throwing error).

I have a program that allows me to look at a total in four different methods. I look for at least two of the methods to agree with no disagreement. I also look at if they game plays out like how I think it will.......then which team is going to also cover the spread.

Yesterday I had the highest possible play a 4 unit on Dallas Under the total (all four methods pointed to the under). It also indicated that Dallas would cover the spread. Both were correct. Yesterday there was also a 2 unit play on New Orleans Over the total. It also indicated that Utah would cover too. Once again both right. Doesn't always work this way.

Today the program has a 3 unit on Clippers over the total. It also points to Indiana covering the spread.

On another note I study other factors that I think could be used as a predictor of the total. I have one theory that I have been playing with on and off for a period of time and I think it has some merit and could be eventually added to my program. Most of the games on the board it only basically encourages you to avoid playing an over or under. For example over the last 1000 games it might show 54% of the games in this category went under. 54% is not enough to make me play the under but I would not want to swim upstream and play the over in a game like this. With that said there is one category that doesn't come up very often but when it does I think it is worth playing. Over the last 4 years it has hit over 70%. Tonight it is saying play the Under in Denver/Houston game.

As Always Good Luck

Northern Star

Thanks for posting. Nice call on the Clips. Houston ending makes me want to punch babies.
 

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Nice . Should have won Denver under too but they hit a 3 to send it to ot
 

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Nice I followed the INDY parlay won me some money but yea that afflalo 3 fucked the under for HOU/den.
 

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The program did a good job with Indiana and the Over. It doesn't have anything real strong today with only 4 games.....since I am on the forum here is what it would point to today Chicago Under and Houston Over.

The other factor that is not part of the program yet had the right side with Denver/Houston under yesterday.......the unfortunate part is the overtime resulted in the wrong results. That is why they call it gambling.

If I see a good looking play and have time in the future I will post.

As Always Good Luck

Northern Star
 

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The main goal of the program is to determine if the game will go over or under the posted total. I also track in each category if the home team or the away team covers the spread too but that is not the intent of the program. In some categories there is a positive correlation to selecting the side and some categories there is not. I also track how it does against the total for first half lines. I am at work and dont have the exact info infront of me but I know Indiana and over in the first half has a very positive correleation.....probably in the neighborhood of 38 to 40% of the time this game will be Indiana and over versus true odds of just 25%. This would make for a positive expected value betting Indiana and over in the first half which I am doing.




I wish I had second half lines to add to my database because I think there is an even better opportunity to beat the second half line because my guess is that it is a weaker line.

This is great info - Thanks so much for sharing. I may have some additional questions for you as a friend and I are working to develop something similar with using some metrics

Thanks again
 

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