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Attacks on UK will continue, radical cleric says

By Gideon Long
Reuters
Friday, July 22, 2005; 10:57 AM



LONDON (Reuters) - Militant Islamists will continue to attack Britain until the government pulls its troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the country's most outspoken Islamic clerics said on Friday.

Speaking 15 days after bombers killed over 50 people in London and a day after a series of failed attacks on the city's transport network, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed said the British capital should expect more violence.

"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.

"If the cause is still there the effect will happen again and again," he said, adding he had no information about future attacks or contacts with people planning to carry out attacks.

Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.

He condemned the killing of all innocent civilians but described attacks on British and U.S. troops in Muslim countries as "pro-life" and justified.

In an interview with Reuters, Bakri described Osama bin Laden, leader of the radical Islamist network al Qaeda, as "a sincere man who fights against evil forces."

Bakri said he would like Britain to become an Islamic state but feared he would be deported before his dream was realized.

"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.

MESSAGE OF PEACE ... MESSAGE OF WAR

A hate figure for the British tabloid press, the bearded and bespectacled Bakri said Islam contained "a message of peace for those who want to live with the Muslims in peace."

"But Islam is a message of war for those who declare war against Muslims," he said.

"I condemn any killing and any bombing against any innocent people in Britain or abroad, but I expect the British people to condemn the killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan."

However, asked about Islamist attacks on British and U.S. troops and on Israelis, he said: "If violence is pro-life I don't condemn it."

Britain has around 1,100 troops in Afghanistan and 8,500 in Iraq. Prime Minister Tony Blair supported the United States in its respective invasions of both countries in 2001 and 2003.

Bakri, a 46-year-old father of six, was born in Syria and lived in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia. When the Saudi government expelled him in 1985 he came to London.

Nicknamed "The Tottenham Ayatollah" after the area of north London in which he lives, he has infuriated many Britons with his firebrand speeches and refusal to condemn suicide bombings.

He founded the British branch of Hizb ut-Tahrir, which describes itself as a non-violent political party dedicated to creating an Islamic caliphate centered on the Middle East.

But he split from the group in 1996 and set up al Muhajiroun, which won notoriety in 2001 for celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon which killed nearly 3,000 people.

Bakri has Syrian and Lebanese citizenship and says he thinks the British government might deport him to one of those two countries in the wake of this month's bombings.

"But I think that would be political suicide for the British government if they started to deport and imprison all extremists and radicals," he said.

"Because if, God forbid, something happened again, they would have nobody left to blame."

© 2005 Reuters
 
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You are a 100% Jackass and define a True DITTOHEAD ...

Chickenhawks like yourself that get off on our American kids dying in Iraq and if someone speaks out that Bush is a Jackass and this was a major military blunder your kind points me out as someone cheering for Muslims???

Stick your viewpts deep up your dark crevice, Karl Rove as your "Traitor" viewpts are completely disgusting and time for your ChickenAss to volunteer and help out King George in his efforts to spread "Democracy"
 
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doc mercer said:
You are a 100% Jackass and define a True DITTOHEAD ...

Chickenhawks like yourself that get off on our American kids dying in Iraq and if someone speaks out that Bush is a Jackass and this was a major military blunder your kind points me out as someone cheering for Muslims???

Stick your viewpts deep up your dark crevice, Karl Rove as your "Traitor" viewpts are completely disgusting and time for your ChickenAss to volunteer and help out King George in his efforts to spread "Democracy"

Doc, I shouldn't even bother responding to your blather, but my "chickenass" served in the U.S. Marine Corps Infantry from 1992-1996 and so I am too old now to serve. Having been a Marine, I certainly do not "get off" on seeing our troops die in Iraq or anywhere else. I personally had to deal with the deaths of several Marines while I was on active duty and I hate the fact that death and injury happen in the military. When you take the oath though you realize you could be sent somewhere to fight and die, right, wrong or otherwise. Bush made a decision on old intelligence(that Clinton agreed with) that SH was hiding WMD and could sell or give it to Al-Queda in a post 9-11 world...that was the theory and that is what we went to war on. SH was given many chances to let us in to inspect, but he thought Bush was bluffing and that the Russians and French would talk us out of it. Obviously I have said before on this site that our gov't did not plan well at all for the aftermath in Iraq. I was just comparing your radical rhetoric to this mullah and how similar you sound. What is your solution to radical Islamofacist terrorism??? What would you say to this guy? How would you deal with the terrorists? I would love to hear it, but let me guess first...give in to all of their demands that we pull out of the middle east entirely...oh and then of course they would be nice radical islamists and not desire to attack us or the UK anymore right???
 
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Good for you ...

then you should be a bit tired of this Jackass Commander in Chief who has left your boys in harms way ....

This rhetoric that the right has is a joke ...everyone that disagrees with Bush is a supporter of terrorists? How flappin stupid is that???

Cut off the Saudis ...I have said NUMEROUS times on this forum that we are war with Wahhabism and the Saudis are the real enemy ...not a country that had NO TIES to 9-11 and country that has cost America over 200 billion and the lives of 1700 of your fellow soldiers

I respect your service to this country and say thanks ...unlike the scum bags like Cheney and Rove I will never drop to Hitler like level and degrade ANY American who had the balls to serve this country

Again, you served in the military? You should be upset with Bushs actions and the constant blaming of the Left for their constant lies that has cost this country
 
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First off ....

Bush had this attack on Iraq planned even before he was President ... ever heard of UNOCAL????

This guy lies about everything and his AWOL ass on that deck in SD in military garb was a complete insult to all brave Americans who have died in Iraq ...a man who went AWOL over coke useage and will not attend ONE SINGLE FUNERAL but has the balls to do a Chickenshit Photo Opp in Iraq with soldiers over Thanksgiving ????

Please ...this military venture was nothing more than a son trying to even the score with "the man who tried to kill Daddy" ....
 
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Doc, I shouldn't even bother responding to your blather, but my "chickenass" served in the U.S. Marine Corps Infantry from 1992-1996 and so I am too old now to serve. Having been a Marine, I certainly do not "get off" on seeing our troops die in Iraq or anywhere else. I personally had to deal with the deaths of several Marines while I was on active duty and I hate the fact that death and injury happen in the military. When you take the oath though you realize you could be sent somewhere to fight and die, right, wrong or otherwise. Bush made a decision on old intelligence(that Clinton agreed with) that SH was hiding WMD and could sell or give it to Al-Queda in a post 9-11 world...that was the theory and that is what we went to war on. SH was given many chances to let us in to inspect, but he thought Bush was bluffing and that the Russians and French would talk us out of it. Obviously I have said before on this site that our gov't did not plan well at all for the aftermath in Iraq. I was just comparing your radical rhetoric to this mullah and how similar you sound. What is your solution to radical Islamofacist terrorism??? What would you say to this guy? How would you deal with the terrorists? I would love to hear it, but let me guess first...give in to all of their demands that we pull out of the middle east entirely...oh and then of course they would be nice radical islamists and not desire to attack us or the UK anymore right???


Thank you for your service. Your are a true American! Thank you. :103631605 :toast:
 

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