Hussein / Dumbsfeld ....

[docmercer--banned]

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They're putting Saddam on trial for crimes he committed before he became Rummy's good friend. If what he did in 1982 was so terrible, why did Rummy sell Saddam poison gas afterwards?

 

[JinnRikki]

A yes remembering the good 'ol days when Ronny Raygun and Dumbsfeld were in love with old Saddy Boy. Murdering his people wasn't such a big deal then. My how times change.

 

[levistep]

Doc, you have a problem with "Rummy" for shaking hands with Hussein because he killed thousands of people but you think FDR was a great president even though he was buddies with Stalin? Stalin, who FDR referred to as "my brother," killed millions of Ukrainians and a countless number of his own people. Stalin was responsible for more than 400 times the deaths of Hussein.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/fdrruss.wav

 

[docmercer--banned]

Levi:

dont worry .. Ashcroft wont have his goon squad show up if you ever post anything less than 100% complimentary to the Mafia crowd that resides on @ 1600 PA Avenue

 

[JinnRikki]

Doc, you have a problem with "Rummy" for shaking hands with Hussein because he killed thousands of people but you think FDR was a great president even though he was buddies with Stalin? Stalin, who FDR referred to as "my brother," killed millions of Ukrainians and a countless number of his own people. Stalin was responsible for more than 400 times the deaths of Hussein.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/fdrruss.wav

Only a simple minded fool could make an absurd connection like that. Alliance with Stalin was a military necessity.
What was the need in selling arms to Iraq outside of greed? And we sold arms to the Iranians. What geopolitical advantage was there in playing both sides? We bemoan instability in the Middle East when we are the ones that create much of it.
We have continually inserted ourselves in the affairs of countries on the other side of the world, much to our detriment. And people like you say they hate us for what we are when in reality they hate us for what we do.

 

[eek.]

Doc. You're a traitor.

BTW
Do you think the Liberal American press will question George Bush about this ?

He murdered these people in 1982, Saddam is now being tried for this crime.
Rummy shakes his hand and sells him weapons in 1983

You couldn't make this shít up.

So does this make Rumsfeld an accessory to murder

or is Rumsfeld only guilty of being an international terrorist.

 

[BASEHEAD]

Merry Christmas.

 

[eek.]

Who's that basehead?

The gorgeous slapper in the middle looks like Hilliry.

The chap on the left is Eddie Large ?

 

[BASEHEAD]

Im sure youre wondering......

In return for a $20,000 donation to the Democratic National Committee (part of which came from cocaine smuggled to the United States from Columbia according to investigators), drug trafficker Jorge Cabrera was invited to dinner with Vice President Gore. A little over a week later, he was invited to a Christmas reception and met and posed with First Lady Hillary Clinton. According to the New York Times, April 4, 1997, at the time these photos were taken, Cabrera had two felony drug convictions. Since that time, he was arrested for smuggling 3 tons of cocaine into Florida. He pled guilty and was sentenced to 19 years in prison.


Sometimes I guess you just dont know who youre dealing with when you really should.

 

[eek.]

He's only a career criminal Basehead, America is stuffed to the rafters with guys like that.

Don't you have any mass murderers who invaded countries and terrorised entire populations ??

Saddams a royal flush...and you pull out a pair of twos.

Dang, I hoped he might be Kim Il sungs long lost twin brother or somethin'.

 

[TheRightSide]

EEK they are the enemy of my enemy so now they are my friend. That is what happened with that set up. We gave them weapons to kill as many Iranians as possible. Remeber ole Jimmy Carter not doing a damn thing about it. I was real young at the time but I will never forget those damn arabs for doing that. Maybe the world is perfect in EEK'S world but in mine I still want payback and I think we are clese to getting it.

 

[cussin'it]

I would guess that our global corporate imperialism ain't enough for you then?

Payback sounds like something you do in the school yard.

 

[redpimp]

Im sure youre wondering......

In return for a $20,000 donation to the Democratic National Committee (part of which came from cocaine smuggled to the United States from Columbia according to investigators), drug trafficker Jorge Cabrera was invited to dinner with Vice President Gore. A little over a week later, he was invited to a Christmas reception and met and posed with First Lady Hillary Clinton. According to the New York Times, April 4, 1997, at the time these photos were taken, Cabrera had two felony drug convictions. Since that time, he was arrested for smuggling 3 tons of cocaine into Florida. He pled guilty and was sentenced to 19 years in prison.


Sometimes I guess you just dont know who youre dealing with when you really should.

I think i saw something about this scandal on either pbs or tlc may be two years ago....

Some wierd ass shit was going on in Florida involving several very important government officials (including republicans so you right wingers should pour ice cold water on those hardons you got)...

The case was summarily squashed like a june bug underneath a blubbery fat guy...A very very interesting case indeed!!!!


Ps..I think it was one of those FBI files shows...(it played out like a very nice spy novel, i wonder why it has not been replayed since)


But regardless, even Hilary Clinton can not be blamed for recieving money from a drug smuggler...SInce you cant prove that hilary had any evidence of the source of this money then dont waste our time making these bullshit allegations..


Secondly a drug smuggler compared to a war criminal with millions of deaths on his hands are two very very different issues!!!


Dumsfeld definately should be indicted by an international court for aiding and abetting Saddam husseins genocide!!!

 

[cussin'it]

Only a simple minded fool could make an absurd connection like that.....And people like you say they hate us for what we are when in reality they hate us for what we do.

I'll second that! Good points

 

[eek.]

So have any of the righties on here got a "Liberal mainstream media" article highlighting Rumsfelds complicity in this sorry affair ?

Will Rumsfeld be called as a witness?

Will Iraqi documents recording the Republican support of Saddams regime and its WMD program be released to the court and to the public at large?

Since the US supplied Saddam with WMD equipment this makes the American WMD pretext for invasion illegal...since the Americans supplied him with some of this WMD stuff in the first place.

I wait with bated breath for the "Liberal media" to highlight these inconsistencies.
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The US provided less conventional military equipment than British or German companies but it did allow the export of biological agents, including anthrax; vital ingredients for chemical weapons; and cluster bombs sold by a CIA front organisation in Chile, the report says.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,866942,00.html

 

[Hobbes]

So have any of the righties on here got a "Liberal mainstream media" article highlighting Rumsfelds complicity in this sorry affair ?

Will Rumsfeld be called as a witness?

Will Iraqi documents recording the Republican support of Saddams regime and its WMD program be released to the court and to the public at large?

Since the US supplied Saddam with WMD equipment this makes the American WMD pretext for invasion illegal...since the Americans supplied him with some of this WMD stuff in the first place.

I wait with bated breath for the "Liberal media" to highlight these inconsistencies.
------------------------------------------------

The US provided less conventional military equipment than British or German companies but it did allow the export of biological agents, including anthrax; vital ingredients for chemical weapons; and cluster bombs sold by a CIA front organisation in Chile, the report says.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,866942,00.html

I don't get the argument. You're saying that because the U.S. at one time helped to arm Iraq they were somehow exempt from participating in an action to disarm Iraq? Why? Now I will search for a smiley face...

 

[eek.]

You got his WMD program rolling, you supplied stuff like Anthrax.

Then you used it as a reason to invade.

[smiley as requested]

Aiding and abetting an international terrorist is a crime, but supplying him with WMD...tsk tsk.

Now he's being tried for stuff that he did one year before you gave him truckloads of WMD.
If he was such a bad man then WTF was Rumsfeld doing shaking his hand and giving him Anthrax for ??

Donald Runsfeld should be the first witness called by the defence.

 

[eek.]

Then there's the documentation and records of all the trading and financial support that Saddam got from America while he was murdering and imprisoning the Iraqi population.

Has anyone got that stuff together yet ?

America is actually a co-defendant in this trial, an accessory

I'm still waiting for those Liberal media links...

 

[Hobbes]

Wow, you didn't post anything I hadn't already heard. I thought you were going to point to some statute or something. I get it though, you think it was illegal so it was, good stuff. I'm shocked the liberal media hasn't adopted your case...

 

[BASEHEAD]

You got his WMD program rolling, you supplied stuff like Anthrax.

Then you used it as a reason to invade.

[smiley as requested]

Aiding and abetting an international terrorist is a crime, but supplying him with WMD...tsk tsk.

Now he's being tried for stuff that he did one year before you gave him truckloads of WMD.
If he was such a bad man then WTF was Rumsfeld doing shaking his hand and giving him Anthrax for ??

Donald Runsfeld should be the first witness called by the defence.

I did????? I was like 7 in 1982.What the hell are you talking about????

Whos to say the MSM didnt have a field day with it in 1980s???Im pretty sure when the internet was invented these news sources (and I use the term loosely) didnt go back and archive 20 years worth of stories.So it would be tough to say...but wheres the story anyway?I dont see it.Im sure Reagan got his lumps over it for years and years.

He was given WMD (by Reagan-Rumsfeld was an envoy not president) to drive the Iranians out of his country and to have them as deterrents against future agressions.He abused the privilege,murdered HIS OWN PEOPLE and invaded another country....so the the world said you dont get them anymore.Then he decided he didnt really want to give them up...so he played games with the Clinton adm. and the UN for about a decade,then 9-11 happened.Changed the world.Saddam continued to play games (you know,by maintaining he still had the capability and never being fully cooperative) but this time it was not a Clinton in the White House.So when the WOT came about he was second on the list.....now hes a dead man.If in a decade or two the leader of Iraq decides murdering his own people,invading other countries and supporting terrorism is the way to go....Id guess that leader would be removed as well.

Believe me if somehow Rumsfeld could actaully be held accountable the press would take advantage.