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Put up 1G to win 2540 NENG VS PHILA IN SUPER BOWL
 

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I like the bet a lot Son
 
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what book gave you those odds??
 
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Just realized that when placing this bet NENG has to win Super Bowl also. PINNY
 
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that makes a little more sense.. no way would they give true parlay odds on 2 favorites with no spread
 
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Yes i thought it looked to good!!
 
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Well according to their own odds, it is a good bet. Simply betting 1000 on NE in this game at -141 would net you 1709. They have NE listed at +140, parlay the 1709 into that and you get 2393. So value right there.

It is also basically a true value parlay if you bet NE for the grand, and parlayed them with Philly @ -210 for the 1709, that gives you 2523. So still more value than parlaying them together.

Especially when you consider you will have NE as probably a -2.5/3 fav in that game. So you can come back and buy Phi on the ML for maybe +130 or so asa back up ticket.

Obviously they both have to get there. But it has value, set against their own odds anyways.

Like I said in the other thread Pin will offer overvalued futures and series prices sometimes. It is definately gambling, but the wagers on them are usually limited a bit.
 

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mj 23 said:
Just realized that when placing this bet NENG has to win Super Bowl also. PINNY
am I hearing this right the Eagles and NE must win Sunday and NE must win the Superbowl, if this is true you have way the worst of this bet.
 
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mj I think we all know the Eagles are going all the way!

You know it could've been much worse for Minny if the birds were a bit sharper. I was a little upset at the rust on offense.

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Rainbow, how do you figure? It is actually right in line with what it should pay. (according to Pin's odds anyways). I did however forget one step in my above calculations. That would to take NE on the ML in the SB. I figured a -150 or so ML on them. Pin has the AFC -210, so a lot more respect than what I give the AFC.

With my figures the payout is about 2990. So if NE is only a -150 fave then, yes, he did get the worst of it. But according to Pin's numbers it is right in line. Parlaying out with their odds it would be a pay out of 2530. So his payout is just slightly better.

That is where Pin gets people sometimes. They offer three or four ways to bet the same thing, and people don't look at the 'better' way to play it.

The one thing it does show is that +140 on NE to win the SB is WAY too low in terms of 'true' odds. Should be at least +160.

Using their numbers of -141 and AFC odds(assuming NE wins) -210. That correlates out to about +153. And factoring in that EITHER Pitt or NE will be a fav in the SB, should garner some extra odds. Surely 8 cents.

BUT IMO the AFC winner won't be that big a fave. I think it is a test line to see where the senitment lies. In other words, if the NFC side get hit in that future play, then the line will probably be -3. If the AFC takes a lot of money, we may see -6. Especially in the winner of the AFC game wins in a blow out, no matter who it is.

3 and 6 are those pyschological numbers that scare people. Hard not to bet Phi +6, but if NE beats Pitt 34-10, it will be hard to bet against them as well.

Again all specultaion. But definately things the books are trying to get a feel for. That is exactly why they throw up those numbers like that, just to test the waters before they have to set a line they cannot get off.
 
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Rainbow said:
am I hearing this right the Eagles and NE must win Sunday and NE must win the Superbowl, if this is true you have way the worst of this bet.

Yes, and given the current Conference ML of -220 on Eagles and -141 on Pats they are offering a money line of -236 on Pats over Eagles in this 3 team parlay (calculated at true odds). In contrast if you take Eagles over Pats for the Superbowl the odds are +174.

Just one of the ways the book makes money.
 

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Wantitall, lets go to school. Eagles -220 NE -145 and the Superbowl NE -210 3 team parlay in my books figures 2626. he is only getting 2540 back. dont forget yesterday there was -210 on the Eagles and -140 NE . that would have made it closer to 2700.
 
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Yeah I must have had a brain cramp or something. I used odds of -141, -210, and -210. That should return like you said +270. Not sure how I got +253.



I do know their odds of +140 on New Engalnd are a joke. Even the +250 or so that they are offering for that 4 way are good compared to that.
 

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