how can anyone bet this crap?

HiloBoy · Jul 2, 2005

These decisions are the worst. every week the same thing. you pick the right side and the three blind mice steal it.

when will espn televise a fight that has any meaning at all? not a good fight tuesday or friday since teddy reid.

JOddessa · Jul 2, 2005

I needed Moore by DEc as well. ESPN has just been awefull. Teddy Atlas must be getting paid alot or having chest pains watching the BS known as ESPN judging as of late.

I never liked Teddy at all, but he does call it like he see's it, though often skewed, consistent.

Tough loss.

maxdemo · Jul 2, 2005

Saw the fight and Moore should have won...JMO

HiloBoy · Jul 3, 2005

not just moore but john brown last tuesday getting a draw when he didn't win a round and all the others that would take me too long to list.

JOddessa · Jul 4, 2005

I did have the Draw in both those bouts, so it really evens out. But I only remember the bad beats.

ESPN has just been brutal as of late. Undercard, I should have bet Wiggens based on fact he was from RI, even though I thought Courage was the side.

Quiting on the stool is just getting to be absolutely the worst way 2 lose. I'd rather be wiinning 11-0 and get KO'ed in RD 12 than have my guy quit on stool. I wasn't raised to be a quiter.

franks · Jul 4, 2005

Quitting has become an epidemic; Freitas, Tszyu, among others. Why; well the paycheck of course. If the boss says to leave work early and STILL get paid for a full day, it's see ya later. The boxing fans who support this horseshit and make the PPV revenue possible, deserve better, but the folks in charge KNOW fans are by and large a bunch of mooks who can be crapped all over. Check this out. Last week I'm at the Orleans and the main event has a sub heavyweight who was at the freaking buffet 1 hour before the fight! Got waxed in the first round. Talk about a joke. I got in on the arm so I wasn't so upset, but many others paid for this slop. Will never end anytime soon.

HiloBoy · Jul 4, 2005

Gambling usally evens out over the long run. The guy who has a sixteen when the dealer shows a five and takes the bust card is what we remember. Not the times they save us.

First off boxing is about ninety percent fixed. I mean by almost all fighters worth their weight in salt will be put in with opponets that have zero chance or as close to zero as possible. Guys like De La Hoya, Mosley, Michael Nunn the first ten or twelve bouts were a set up. Someone would have a better shot at winning the lottery than having one of those guys get beat at that level. Then we have guys like Richie Milito, Butterbean and Mark Gastineau etc who apparently have been involved in some out and out fixes. Lets at least get some competent judges for the fights that are competetive. They must have it in their mind as to who they like before the fight and only see it one way. I don't know what else it is.

Finally can we get a few decent televised fights? My god a few years back Peter vs Sykes would have been an undercard fight on ESPN as a showcase for Peter. Now it is the only fight on Showtime. What a joke. At least give us cards cards like the recent HBO Tarver Johnson, Quartey Phillips two even fights. Even the quality of HBO is way off. What happened to After Dark and Shobox? They were once a month and now what twice a year?